Re: [RR] two things

[Bob Simons]

I hear a lot of accusations of Commanders- Satan is our accuser. Our brothers should not be. Lets remember that. I have heard 3 commanders who have confessed that this happened and so far eveyone has just jumped on them and said some awful things about their charachter. WOW Where is Christ when we confess our faults to one another only to be pounced on like Satan does? Bob Simons   For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: clint grant To: j j Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [RR] two things If there is one thing that we as commanders have a responsibility to do, it is to preserve the dignity of the boys. I learned this as a boy, and have seen it reinforced throughout my lifetime. Satan uses bad experiences like the one that Bob Simon related to scar a boy for life. One of the worst things a RR leader could do is to be responsible for such an experience. I'm pretty well known for seeing things in "black and white", and being just about as narrow-minded as they come, but I can think of no excuse for this. Alot of things have come to light through this discussion. Not all of them things to be proud about. I'm just as guilty as anyone, I reckon. Ken, I would recommend that you delete that "Parade of Discipline" or whatever it was- before you use this thing. It won't fly this side of the ocean, and I pray your better than that.   ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Komoto Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RR] two things   Victor - discipline code is very nicely done.  Though we have a formal Code of Conduct, we have never had a formal code for discipline.  we have had an informal discipline code, but we have never codified it and printed it.  If it is OK with you and/or the others, I would like to copy and use it.  I would also like to publish it as part of our parent information packet. Once on a bus trip, I had a Buckaroo ask me to stop the bus so he could go to the bathroom.  We had just told everyone to go before loading up, so I told him to wait until we got home.  Much to my shame and mortification, he couldn't hold it until we got home.  From that point on, I have been a LOT more flexible with bathroom trips.  Regardless of when they were last told to go.  Regardless of the inconvenience to the rest of us.  Inconvenience is nothing compared to the potential damage to the child.  During meeting times, if I have doubts about the situation, I send a guide or the senior guide with the boy. ============================================================ Kenneth Komoto                     mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Pioneer Commander Outpost 193      Phone: (530)752-7197 Southpointe Christian Center       Fax  : (530)752-0329 Sacramento, Ca 95828 _______ To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe rangernet" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://rangernet.org/subscribe.htm http://rangernet.org    Autoresponder: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com