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Amen- we're all still learning.
Bob Simons
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to
prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer.
29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:39
PM
Subject: Re: [RR] two things
Well, Bob, hopefully neither you nor I will be faced with that
situation again. But if we are, we need to be ready. These kinds of things are
hard on a boy, no matter who, if anyone, is to blame. I believe God has a good
plan for you and a great ministry ahead. Look forward to hearing the good
reports.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob
Simons
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 8:28
PM
To: clint grant
Subject: Re: [RR] two things
I didn't mention any names on purpose. I don't want to
fall into the accusing trap either? I agree with most of what you said.
The only part that I have have tried to explain is
that the Commander was all alone and had already taken the whole calss to
the restroom. To stop whatever he was inthe middle of and take them all
again -since he can't just leave the group, would be redundent.
Some boys will also say they have to go when they
really don't. They want to cut class or even get attention.
We need to be careful of remarks such as "I can think
of no excuse for this" when I already gave you the excuse. It is belittling
and says that the commander was an idiot.
Bob Simons
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to
prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.
Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 4:41
PM
Subject: Re: [RR] two things
Now that you have had an opportunity to re-read what I highlighted,
tell me, of what have I accused you?
----- Original Message -----
From:
Bob Simons
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001
5:36 PM
To: Rangernet; clint grant
Subject: Re: [RR] two things
I hear a lot of accusations of Commanders- Satan
is our accuser. Our brothers should not be. Lets remember that. I
have heard 3 commanders who have confessed that this happened and so far
eveyone has just jumped on them and said some awful things about their
charachter.
WOW Where is Christ when we confess our faults to
one another only to be pounced on like Satan does?
Bob Simons
For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans
to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a
future. Jer. 29:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001
1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [RR] two
things
If there is one thing that we as commanders have a
responsibility to do, it is to preserve the dignity of the boys.
I learned this as a boy, and have seen it reinforced throughout my
lifetime. Satan uses bad experiences like the one that Bob Simon
related to scar a boy for life. One of the worst things a RR leader
could do is to be responsible for such an experience. I'm pretty well
known for seeing things in "black and white", and being just about as
narrow-minded as they come, but I can think of no excuse for this.
Alot of things have come to light through this discussion. Not
all of them things to be proud about. I'm just as guilty as anyone, I
reckon.
Ken, I would recommend that you delete that "Parade of
Discipline" or whatever it was- before you use this thing. It won't
fly this side of the ocean, and I pray your better than that.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Ken Komoto
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001
2:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RR] two things
Victor - discipline code is very nicely done.
Though we have a formal Code
of Conduct, we have never had a
formal code for discipline. we have had an
informal
discipline code, but we have never codified it and printed it.
If
it is OK with you and/or the others, I would like to copy and
use it. I
would also like to publish it as part of our
parent information packet.
Once on a bus trip, I had a
Buckaroo ask me to stop the bus so he could go
to the
bathroom. We had just told everyone to go before loading up,
so I
told him to
wait until we got home. Much to my
shame and mortification, he couldn't hold
it until we got
home. From that point on, I have been a LOT more
flexible
with bathroom trips. Regardless of when they were
last told to go. Regardless
of the inconvenience to the
rest of us. Inconvenience is nothing compared to
the
potential damage to the child. During meeting times, if I have
doubts
about the situation, I send a guide or the senior guide
with the
boy.
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Kenneth
Komoto
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Pioneer Commander Outpost
193 Phone:
(530)752-7197
Southpointe Christian
Center Fax :
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Sacramento, Ca 95828
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