Why do so many Christians equate forgiveness and the absense of
consequences.

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But...

Which one on the board can throw the proverbial "first stone"?  I think
someone (Clint maybe) already mentioned that - doesn't forgiveness and
reconciliation count for something?

Michael



In a message dated Thu, 10 Jan 2002  6:06:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
"Chuck Holman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If he was a Ranger going for his GMA, would you wait the 90 days to see
what
> happens.  I'm not saying this boy can't change, but it sounds like he has
> been in trouble for some time.  I don't konw what I would do if I were on
> the board, but I sure would be having second thoughts.  He knew going into
> the board that an Eagle Scout is suppose to be above Reproach.  What will
> other boards say if he gets his Eagle and then right after that gets
caught.
> Are you watering down the program to help someone to get an Eagle Scout
that
> don't really deserve it?  Well that's only me talking.
>
> Chuck
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
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> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:05 AM
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> Subject: [RR] Eagle Board results-
>
>
>
> Cdr.Jen reports a brutal 3 hour board with the divorced
> parents of DJ, and many interested parties who have known, worked
> with and camped for 7 years with this young man. DJ himself showed
> remorse and emotion in line with the seriousness of the situation.
>
> DJ convinced the Board he wants the Eagle award..
>
> First-
>
> DJ for all the "trouble" he's had before.. admits this was
> the most foolish thing he's ever done. He's been caught in
> the past, but never brought to justice. Much of this has scared
> him "straight"..
>
> AS *Luck.. and the hand of the Lord would have it..
>
> Officialy, this is a first offence at 17 turning 18..
> The court is willing to extend grace if parties can come
> togather and show DJ has enlisted in the armed forces,
> or enrolls in a trade program at a College, and makes satifactory
> progress while staying out of trouble.
>
> The BSA Scouts have a 6 point format for awarding Eagle..
> and DJ's paperwork is in complete order saveing for point
> #2 that states:
>
> "Shows evidence of liveing the Scout Oath and Law in daily life"
>
> The Eagle is for DJ, and not to be linked to any other scout.
>
> Those that have signed off on his award cannot go back now and
> re-voke their approval. The papers have been filed. The process
> go's forward based on precident.
>
> The decision then is to postpone the Eagle board for 2 mo's
> to allow DJ to meet the challenges of the court, and show
> evidence of point #2 by staying out of trouble and serveing
> the troop in some direct function, that does not have DJ working
> with the scout boys. The board insisted on that, as Scoutmaster
> objected.
>
> Scoutmaster requested, that at the comming Troop Court of Honor
> DJ attend but his status would not be mentioned or acknoledged.
>
> The Board agreed..
>
> *IF DJ can stay out of trouble for 60 days, meet the Judges
> requirements, then it is *Possible that the infraction would
> be reduced to allow DJ to not have this on his record as Grand
> Thieft.. a Felony.
>
> At that time the Eagle Board could meet and complete the process
> up or down.  DJ was told that if his Eagle was granted, he would
> never wear the badge on a Scout uniform, but be issued the Adult
> "knot" and his involvement in Troop 328 is not welcome.
>
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> of the follower in the Leader, of each in themself,
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