As for fun yes you will have fun and great fellowship as an FCF member.
The membership is for the elite Ranger who is prayerful in his daily
life,and yes FCF isn't everybody. If the thoughts of primitive camping with
out modern convenience is not your cup of tea, then you are not a good
candidate.
I myself believe that I was meant for FCF..... As a boy who was in the
boyscout program I had a leader who was really into the Civil War and we
camped and hiked many of the battlefields in the Kentucky,Tennessee area. I
always had great interest in American History and a love for the outdoors.
When I was saved and became involved in the Royal Ranger Ministry, FCF was a
natural choice for me. In fact the sectional agent at the time told my
senior commander that I was a natural for the ministry and that he would be
a fool to not use it. The Ropecraft and other outdoor skills that we are
taught in LTC and are tested on in Phase one came so easy that at times I
have a hard time understanding how others don't find it so easy.
Today was the Cincinnati Sectional pinewood derby and we did phase one
testing at the derby for the candidates who where interested and I worn my
FCF outfit to the event. Yes I did stand out in the crowd , but the
questions by the boys , parents and yes even other commanders showed the I
was letting my light shine and even the 8 inch throwing knife on my hip and
shooters bag was a useful tools. One boy asked me what I was carrying in the
bag, and I told him "things that I need" . With a puzzled look on his face
he said like what and I opened the bag and produced a leather cover BIBLE .
well worn at that.
If the only reason you or anyone is interested in FCF is to have another pin
for the uniform then the ministry may not be for you.
We are told as a membership not to harass the candidates during phase two
but to be a true light as to great fellowship and brotherhood that FCF
offers us. The reason of phase two is to teach and welcome the candidates .
Yes we are a different culture and breed but just like a missionary going
into a foreign land will find the people there as a different people that
has ways and beliefs that are different than theirs . Yes it is natural to
be timid going into something new but we have much to offer you.
Russ Rice
Wicala ( I Believe )
Anchor of Hope Ministries
Lebanon Ohio
----- Original Message -----
From: Johann Guzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 8:53 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [RR] Phase II test?
> what exactly is the phase II testing, i'm a just turned trailblazer who
has
> passed phase I testing. Should i take it, i've been in Rangers for the fun
> and enjoyment of it. for being wit my friends, going camping, competing
wit
> others. Why doesn't FCF follow this tradition of Royal Rangers.
>
> >From: Mark W Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [RR] Phase II test?
> >Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:17:09 -0600
> >
> >I have a NTC patch but can't wear it. I know alot of FCFers who are
> >Godly men. What I am saying below will hurt some of your feelings and
> >may very well anger you. If it does so then perhaps I have put some
> >light on some things that maybe we shouldn't be doing as Christians.
> >
> >Come out into the Light. If it cant't stand the light then there is
> >something shady about it.
> >One question I ask. Is it good for the Green horns or is the "good" in
> >the fun you have in it?
> >NTC and Phase Testing...hum, so far my impression has been in the latter
> > part. (as I quote you: "hee hee hee")
> >
> >I could be wrong in my impression but as of todate I am still looking for
> >evidence to the contrary. All I hear from closed circles is "this is what
> >they did to me". To put trust in a group of men that will put a blind
> >fold on you take you out into the woods at night drop you with nothing
> >and then come back to spy and pester you all through the night. I can't
> >find that type of treatment in my bible or Ranger Manual at all. I sure
> >hear alot of chuckling about it from the inflictors. Sure sounds like
> >college hazing to me and I will enjoy the day when that behaviour isn't
> >tolerated in the Asssemblies of God. Show me the right way to treat a
> >boy or a brother in Christ.
> >
> >If I was to take a Royal Ranger out and put him through a NTC or Phase
> >II campout/testing. I can with little to no hesitation tell you he won't
> >be back on Wednesday night for Rangers, this being so why do we want to
> >do this to our men? Show them the RIGHT WAY. I guess I don't understand
> >the big picture.
> >
> >I can tell you, if you run your outpost accourding to the Bible and the
> >Leaders Manual and treat your leaders with Love and Respect you can have
> >a outpost of 20 leaders active and working each Wednesday night in your
> >RR outpost. Take 30 plus outings a year, Attend most of the RR Events
> >and have a outpost of Rangers and Leaders who love one another and love
> >to camp and laugh and have a hoot of a time exploring God's green earth.
> > My model is WWJD and his commandment is Love one another as I have
> >loved you.
> >
> >I know alot of leaders who are in FCF and I value them very much. This
> >isn't a personal issue it is a ethicical issue. As you can see I feel
> >very strongly about it. I pray for the day that I don't feel this way
> >but today I am telling you the truth of how I feel about it. I had a
> >commander who wanted to punish the boys with pushups infront of the
> >outpost if they did something wrong or forgot something or what ever... I
> >asked him if there was a better way in confidence. He said he thought it
> >was good for them it built character and I heard a few more "good "
> >excuses for it. He did it again in a opening ceremony and the boy I felt
> >was very much embarrissed. Later in the Opening ceremony I caught the
> >commander doing some trival thing and called him to fall in upfront which
> >he did. I then asked him to give me 10 pushups for so and so and he
> >looked at me with hurt in his eyes and before it went much farter I
> >stoped and told him he didn't need to do that his mistake was covered by
> >the Blood of Jesus and he was forgiven. Later he came up to me and told
> >me I know how a boy feels when I made him do pushups infront of the
> >group. I won't do that again.
> >
> >I am just a sinner saved by Grace. Show me the Right way.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:10:00 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > Gentlemen,
> > > Royal Rangers is not about secrecy, but about having fun while
> > > serving
> > > God and learning about God in a fun way. FCF is a great ministry for
> > > older
> > > boys and men, but the idea is to get the boys and men interested in
> > > order for
> > > them to stay in Royal Rangers, and in doing so we have to keep some
> > > things
> > > quiet in order for the greenhorns to enjoy their Adventure. God knew
> > > some of
> > > the test for the men of the Bible but didn't always tell them about
> > > it before
> > > hand. FCF Phase II testing is not that hard just follow orders of
> > > those in
> > > charge and you should pass.
> > > Let me tell you when I attended NTC, Fred Deaver was my Sr.
> > > Guide and he
> > > told us to keep quiet about some of the things that went on at NTC
> > > in order
> > > for future commanders who attend NTC could have the same experience.
> > >
> > > We are not secret club in order to make people suffer, FCF is
> > > the elite
> > > of the Royal Rangers (men of God) so we want true men of God. So
> > > just listen
> > > and do what you are told and you will be part of an excellent
> > > ministry of
> > > God.
> > >
> > > I will praying for all you greenhorns. hee hee hee
> > >
> > > serving only one master... Jesus
> > > Keith G
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