We do in the Northern New England District.
Johann Guzman wrote:
>
> what exactly is the phase II testing, i'm a just turned trailblazer who has
> passed phase I testing. Should i take it, i've been in Rangers for the fun
> and enjoyment of it. for being wit my friends, going camping, competing wit
> others. Why doesn't FCF follow this tradition of Royal Rangers.
>
> >From: Mark W Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [RR] Phase II test?
> >Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:17:09 -0600
> >
> >I have a NTC patch but can't wear it. I know alot of FCFers who are
> >Godly men. What I am saying below will hurt some of your feelings and
> >may very well anger you. If it does so then perhaps I have put some
> >light on some things that maybe we shouldn't be doing as Christians.
> >
> >Come out into the Light. If it cant't stand the light then there is
> >something shady about it.
> >One question I ask. Is it good for the Green horns or is the "good" in
> >the fun you have in it?
> >NTC and Phase Testing...hum, so far my impression has been in the latter
> > part. (as I quote you: "hee hee hee")
> >
> >I could be wrong in my impression but as of todate I am still looking for
> >evidence to the contrary. All I hear from closed circles is "this is what
> >they did to me". To put trust in a group of men that will put a blind
> >fold on you take you out into the woods at night drop you with nothing
> >and then come back to spy and pester you all through the night. I can't
> >find that type of treatment in my bible or Ranger Manual at all. I sure
> >hear alot of chuckling about it from the inflictors. Sure sounds like
> >college hazing to me and I will enjoy the day when that behaviour isn't
> >tolerated in the Asssemblies of God. Show me the right way to treat a
> >boy or a brother in Christ.
> >
> >If I was to take a Royal Ranger out and put him through a NTC or Phase
> >II campout/testing. I can with little to no hesitation tell you he won't
> >be back on Wednesday night for Rangers, this being so why do we want to
> >do this to our men? Show them the RIGHT WAY. I guess I don't understand
> >the big picture.
> >
> >I can tell you, if you run your outpost accourding to the Bible and the
> >Leaders Manual and treat your leaders with Love and Respect you can have
> >a outpost of 20 leaders active and working each Wednesday night in your
> >RR outpost. Take 30 plus outings a year, Attend most of the RR Events
> >and have a outpost of Rangers and Leaders who love one another and love
> >to camp and laugh and have a hoot of a time exploring God's green earth.
> > My model is WWJD and his commandment is Love one another as I have
> >loved you.
> >
> >I know alot of leaders who are in FCF and I value them very much. This
> >isn't a personal issue it is a ethicical issue. As you can see I feel
> >very strongly about it. I pray for the day that I don't feel this way
> >but today I am telling you the truth of how I feel about it. I had a
> >commander who wanted to punish the boys with pushups infront of the
> >outpost if they did something wrong or forgot something or what ever... I
> >asked him if there was a better way in confidence. He said he thought it
> >was good for them it built character and I heard a few more "good "
> >excuses for it. He did it again in a opening ceremony and the boy I felt
> >was very much embarrissed. Later in the Opening ceremony I caught the
> >commander doing some trival thing and called him to fall in upfront which
> >he did. I then asked him to give me 10 pushups for so and so and he
> >looked at me with hurt in his eyes and before it went much farter I
> >stoped and told him he didn't need to do that his mistake was covered by
> >the Blood of Jesus and he was forgiven. Later he came up to me and told
> >me I know how a boy feels when I made him do pushups infront of the
> >group. I won't do that again.
> >
> >I am just a sinner saved by Grace. Show me the Right way.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:10:00 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > Gentlemen,
> > > Royal Rangers is not about secrecy, but about having fun while
> > > serving
> > > God and learning about God in a fun way. FCF is a great ministry for
> > > older
> > > boys and men, but the idea is to get the boys and men interested in
> > > order for
> > > them to stay in Royal Rangers, and in doing so we have to keep some
> > > things
> > > quiet in order for the greenhorns to enjoy their Adventure. God knew
> > > some of
> > > the test for the men of the Bible but didn't always tell them about
> > > it before
> > > hand. FCF Phase II testing is not that hard just follow orders of
> > > those in
> > > charge and you should pass.
> > > Let me tell you when I attended NTC, Fred Deaver was my Sr.
> > > Guide and he
> > > told us to keep quiet about some of the things that went on at NTC
> > > in order
> > > for future commanders who attend NTC could have the same experience.
> > >
> > > We are not secret club in order to make people suffer, FCF is
> > > the elite
> > > of the Royal Rangers (men of God) so we want true men of God. So
> > > just listen
> > > and do what you are told and you will be part of an excellent
> > > ministry of
> > > God.
> > >
> > > I will praying for all you greenhorns. hee hee hee
> > >
> > > serving only one master... Jesus
> > > Keith G
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