--- "Merlin ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Just thought I'd throw my two cents in on a few
> of the week's comments.
> A Pinewood Derby uphill race? Sounds cool! We
> try to come up with a new
> twist each year to keep things interesting at the
> race. One thing we have
> also considered is a kind of free-for-all division
> where the traditional
> specs for building the car are eliminated or
> modified. This would probably
> be open to the older boys & leaders only. Which
> leads me to...
I'm afraid it will lead you in the wrong direction,
sir... The race is to be run by the rules.
A fundamental principal of Royal Rangers is an
understanding of fair play and sticking
to "rules" to build boy's into men.
It's wrong to modify the rules to increase the
interest of the older boy, against the young boy.
We do not run Pinewood for the parents or the
leaders or the older boy. We run it fair and
encourage the young boy to do his best, it is
his day, his event, his time to shine.
We think, Pinewood derby is a young non-camping
boys event, for Cub scout age boys only.
> Outposts organize & run events in lots of
> different ways. We choose to
> make Pinewood Derby an event open to everyone. It is
> a fun night of racing &
> fellowship that is the only RR event that many
> people in the church will
> ever attend. This is certainly far from a
> "hinderance to the health &
> welfare of our outpost" as another Rangernetter
> stated.
Sir, I said that in reference to those that encourage
Missionet girls and their leaders to compete in a
Ranger event. Have you mis-understood?
It just happens to
> work for us.
> Something was also said about non-camping age
> boys in Rangers. Is there
> such a thing? Granted, the B/SA boys only go on a
> couple campouts each year
> w/us, but they are definitely of camping age. We do
> add special conditions
> on their attending an overnighter, however. (Must be
> accompenied by a dad,
> grandpa, or other adult figure, etc.)
I disagree based on the instructions listed in
the B/SA LTC materials. It clearly states that these
young boy do not camp, but do attend day camp.
I suppose an overnighter at a church fellowship
hall or home might work but the larger issue is
the makeup of the younger boys leadership. Day
events skirt the potential for upset.
What we are trying to do is to make these young boys
feel every bit proud of their achievements and
look forward, but not "up to the older boys" You
make conduct your Op in any way, but I have an
official charter from my church and must follow the
rules. The rules are no camping for young boys.
OK guys, I
> know this will open a whole
> new onslaught of issues for some of you, but it
> works for us.
Yes- for me it seems you hold a simular attitude to
the Ranger leader I replaced, who at every turn worked
against the desires of the Pastoral staff to expand
his *vision with blinders to others ministries. In
time it distroyed his good work and he left.
I saw this comming and pledged to not be in rebellion
to the ministry of others and as I bless my brothers,
RR will in turn be blessed by a smaller but more
effective group.
Please also
> note that there are plenty of other activities that
> are restricted to
> certain age groups. No, Challengers are not invited
> to the B/SA Field Day,
> etc.
> Crowded calendars sometimes call for
> compromises. I work about 60 hrs.
> a week on 2nd shift, so off-time is very limited for
> me. So we try to
> balance our activities by having both inclusive and
> exclusive events. I
> realize that some types of activities should only be
> open to certain age
> groups.
This is what I said- and raceing cars up-hill with
firecrackers or rocket engines should not be done in
the presence of young boys.
If that is the choice of the older boys, let them
launch rockets or shoot blackpowder rifles. At a
different time and event.
In Christ-
Cdr.Roy Op88
So.Idaho Dist.
1st AG Wiezer,Id
> Oops! looks like ya got a bit more than the two
> cents worth! Oh well,
> reply w/my change. OK?
>
> Gary Haas, Whiteheart, FCF '92, OP86 Danville,IL
>
>
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