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I could come in and give you a legalist review of your outpost. I could
give you a old fashion by the rules NTC style inspection. It would of
course be for your own good. I would use the BST Manual for the meat of
the inspection. It would acomplish about the same as NTC does. (Don't
do this to your boys)
In Southern Missouri we take our Buckaroos To Pow Wow and several times a
year have a whole outpost campout and have been doing it for over a
decade. I would amagine our Boys in Southern Missouri must be of a more
mature stock. They love to camp and get excited about it. Then again
our 15 to 17 year old Rangers must be more mature to stoop to the level
of cub scouts to craft cars that give men who have been making cars for
several decades a run for their pinewood derby titles.
Your matter of fact style of posting while sitting in a boat full of
holes makes me shake my head and wonder "what in the world". One thing
it takes all kinds to run Royal Rangers. Each has their gift. Please
remember brother and fellow Ranger Commander. Allow others to go outside
the box that you have built for yourself. Just because you can't make it
work doesn't mean it won''t work well for others. In this case it does
and it has. Derby on Dude!
Mark Jones, wooah easy fella!
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:51:27 -0800 (PST) royal ranger
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> --- "Merlin ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Just thought I'd throw my two cents in on a few
> > of the week's comments.
> > A Pinewood Derby uphill race? Sounds cool! We
> > try to come up with a new
> > twist each year to keep things interesting at the
> > race. One thing we have
> > also considered is a kind of free-for-all division
> > where the traditional
> > specs for building the car are eliminated or
> > modified. This would probably
> > be open to the older boys & leaders only. Which
> > leads me to...
>
> I'm afraid it will lead you in the wrong direction,
> sir... The race is to be run by the rules.
>
> A fundamental principal of Royal Rangers is an
> understanding of fair play and sticking
> to "rules" to build boy's into men.
>
> It's wrong to modify the rules to increase the
> interest of the older boy, against the young boy.
>
> We do not run Pinewood for the parents or the
> leaders or the older boy. We run it fair and
> encourage the young boy to do his best, it is
> his day, his event, his time to shine.
>
> We think, Pinewood derby is a young non-camping
> boys event, for Cub scout age boys only.
>
>
>
> > Outposts organize & run events in lots of
> > different ways. We choose to
> > make Pinewood Derby an event open to everyone. It is
> > a fun night of racing &
> > fellowship that is the only RR event that many
> > people in the church will
> > ever attend. This is certainly far from a
> > "hinderance to the health &
> > welfare of our outpost" as another Rangernetter
> > stated.
>
> Sir, I said that in reference to those that encourage
> Missionet girls and their leaders to compete in a
> Ranger event. Have you mis-understood?
>
>
>
> It just happens to
> > work for us.
> > Something was also said about non-camping age
> > boys in Rangers. Is there
> > such a thing? Granted, the B/SA boys only go on a
> > couple campouts each year
> > w/us, but they are definitely of camping age. We do
> > add special conditions
> > on their attending an overnighter, however. (Must be
> > accompenied by a dad,
> > grandpa, or other adult figure, etc.)
>
>
>
> I disagree based on the instructions listed in
> the B/SA LTC materials. It clearly states that these
> young boy do not camp, but do attend day camp.
>
> I suppose an overnighter at a church fellowship
> hall or home might work but the larger issue is
> the makeup of the younger boys leadership. Day
> events skirt the potential for upset.
>
> What we are trying to do is to make these young boys
> feel every bit proud of their achievements and
> look forward, but not "up to the older boys" You
> make conduct your Op in any way, but I have an
> official charter from my church and must follow the
> rules. The rules are no camping for young boys.
>
>
> OK guys, I
> > know this will open a whole
> > new onslaught of issues for some of you, but it
> > works for us.
>
> Yes- for me it seems you hold a simular attitude to
> the Ranger leader I replaced, who at every turn worked
> against the desires of the Pastoral staff to expand
> his *vision with blinders to others ministries. In
> time it distroyed his good work and he left.
>
> I saw this comming and pledged to not be in rebellion
> to the ministry of others and as I bless my brothers,
> RR will in turn be blessed by a smaller but more
> effective group.
>
>
> Please also
> > note that there are plenty of other activities that
> > are restricted to
> > certain age groups. No, Challengers are not invited
> > to the B/SA Field Day,
> > etc.
> > Crowded calendars sometimes call for
> > compromises. I work about 60 hrs.
> > a week on 2nd shift, so off-time is very limited for
> > me. So we try to
> > balance our activities by having both inclusive and
> > exclusive events. I
> > realize that some types of activities should only be
> > open to certain age
> > groups.
>
> This is what I said- and raceing cars up-hill with
> firecrackers or rocket engines should not be done in
> the presence of young boys.
>
> If that is the choice of the older boys, let them
> launch rockets or shoot blackpowder rifles. At a
> different time and event.
>
> In Christ-
>
> Cdr.Roy Op88
> So.Idaho Dist.
> 1st AG Wiezer,Id
>
>
> > Oops! looks like ya got a bit more than the two
> > cents worth! Oh well,
> > reply w/my change. OK?
> >
> > Gary Haas, Whiteheart, FCF '92, OP86 Danville,IL
> >
> >
> >
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