I dunno Duane, this whole conversation goes directly to the heart
of the Royal Ranger Ministry, what it does, why it does it...

If we wanted to replicate Boy Scouts, we would have simply adopted
the Boy Scout program and had a PROGRAM.  Instead we built a Ministry
that uses scouting techniques to draw the boys to the church.  That's
one of the reasons why I didn't and don't have a problem with the new
directions that the National Office is taking...  I'm seeing some real
changes in the nature of the boys I deal with in Pioneers.  About half
have only a passing interest in camping or learning campcraft.  But if
we set up visits to skateboard parks, that half would go nuts with
anticipation.  And I have several kids that are perfectly content to
stay indoors, play video games and surf the internet.  It pains me to
say it, but the boys and their interests are changing...

So that was a long roundabout way of asking the question...
What is the purpose of the Royal Ranger Ministry?
Are we aiming at raising up Leaders?
Or at raising up Christian young men?
Or both?

At 04:53 PM 2/27/01 -0800, you wrote:
>But on the subject of why the US Millitary would honor a
>Eagle over a GMA the answer is not found in *ministry but
>in Leadership of teams.
>
>I'm proposeing an ethical withdrawl from compareing the
>GMA to the Eagle on those grounds.. To "Equal" the Eagle
>we must preach team building, patrol leadership, critical
>thinking, character building and integrity. We would have
>to develop policies of 2 deep leadership for child protection,
>and administrate an accountibility double check to back the
>claim a boy brings for the GMA award that his work meets
>the requirement No-more No-less..
>
>Let's forget all that and keep RR the way it is.
>
>Men working with boys, and quietly signing off for them
>for the award. All this "Boy leadership" takes too much time
>and get's in the way. After all... what would the Commander do?
>
>-=A=-

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Kenneth Komoto                     mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pioneer Commander Outpost 193      Phone: (530)752-7197
Southpointe Christian Center       Fax  : (530)752-0329
Sacramento, Ca 95828

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