Clint you are very right in what your saying. This is my opinion
so please no attacks. As for this prosperity thing. are you guys 
refering to being prosperous in general or the "properity theology" 
which teaches that if you're not prosperous or if you're sick, it is 
because you are in sin?

In Christ,
Martin Nieves

>From: "clint grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>SUBJECTDate: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:08:58 
>
>Looks like I hit a sore spot....
>   Yeah, I was nineteen and going door to door myself, so I knew what was 
>going on the whole time.
>     As far as judging goes, here are some scripture references...
>Prov. 31:9
>Gen. 49:16
>Ex. 18:22
>Nu. 35:24
>De. 16:18
>Ps.75:2
>Ps. 82:2
>Is. 1:17
>Is. 1:23
>Ez. 23:24
>John 7:24
>1Co:6:2
>1Co 6:5
>1Co 10:15
>!co 14:29
>I could go on and on and on...But I'm out of time. Thanks, Clint
>
>
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: [RR] Compareitive religons merit- any value?
>>Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:54:30 EDT
>>
>>In a message dated 6/18/2001 9:44:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>
>>
>> > The Bible says that we are judged by our fruits. I once went to one of 
>>these
>> > aforementioned churches as a teenager with my mom. They claimed to have 
>>led
>> > 276 lives to the Lord through thier Friday nite door-to-door witnessing.
>> > But
>> > only one family was added to the church in this time. What they did in
>> > truth
>> > (at least in my imagination) was leave 275 spiritual babies in the
>> > dumpster.
>> > This was thier fruit. They all had pictures of cadillacs on thier
>> > refrigerators that they were claiming in the name of Jesus. They were
>> > claiming health, peace, and properity. And they were claiming 276 souls
>> > saved, 275 of which were in the dumpster. That is how you judge that.
>>
>>No.  YOU (nor I) judge that - judging is God's responsibility - thankfully!
>>Sounds like some A/G churches I've been in - and some Baptist, and
>>Presbyterian, and Methodist.  So are they all bad?  You said you "ONCE went
>>to ONE".  Do you know for a fact that they didn't invite and reinvite those
>>275 families to church?  Do you know for a fact that all 275 were left
>>behind?  Some may have gone to other churches (God forbid that someone not
>>like OUR church), how many people saved in your church over the last year 
>>are
>>still attending your church?  How many did you mentor?  As a teenager were
>>you really aware of what was going on or did you simply respond/react to 
>>what
>>you heard from      s?
>>
>>And what exactly is wrong with Cadillacs? The picture on my refrigerator is
>>Red Dodge Ram Truck - my son has a 4-wheeler, my daughter a Barbie bike and
>>my wife - a natural swimming pool.  Am I going to hell because we want 
>>these
>>things?  Depends.  Depend son whether or not we have received and accepted
>>Jesus Christ as our personal savior and continue to live for Him until He
>>returns for us or we leave to see Him.  It doesn't matter whether I plan to
>>use that pickup for Rangers or for driving around in circles in a parking
>>lot.  And it doesn't matter if my wife wants the pool to have Christian
>>parties at or simply for our family to relax around.
>>
>>It's interesting how we can judge someone by the picture on the 
>>refrigerator
>>- instead of by what's in their heart (especially since we shouldn't be
>>judging at all).
>>
>>
>
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