>From what I gather this dialogue is in reference to the "Blab and Grab" 
theology. Which I am making no judgements about what so ever. I am just 
saying what I have witnessed and saying what the Bible says; That "we shall 
judge them by thier works."


>From: "Martin Nieves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Re: [RR] Compareitive religons merit- any value?
>Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:17:28 -0700
>
>
>Clint you are very right in what your saying. This is my opinion
>so please no attacks. As for this prosperity thing. are you guys
>refering to being prosperous in general or the "properity theology"
>which teaches that if you're not prosperous or if you're sick, it is
>because you are in sin?
>
>In Christ,
>Martin Nieves
>
> >From: "clint grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >SUBJECTDate: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:08:58
> >
> >Looks like I hit a sore spot....
> >   Yeah, I was nineteen and going door to door myself, so I knew what was
> >going on the whole time.
> >     As far as judging goes, here are some scripture references...
> >Prov. 31:9
> >Gen. 49:16
> >Ex. 18:22
> >Nu. 35:24
> >De. 16:18
> >Ps.75:2
> >Ps. 82:2
> >Is. 1:17
> >Is. 1:23
> >Ez. 23:24
> >John 7:24
> >1Co:6:2
> >1Co 6:5
> >1Co 10:15
> >!co 14:29
> >I could go on and on and on...But I'm out of time. Thanks, Clint
> >
> >
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: [RR] Compareitive religons merit- any value?
> >>Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:54:30 EDT
> >>
> >>In a message dated 6/18/2001 9:44:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> > The Bible says that we are judged by our fruits. I once went to one 
>of
> >>these
> >> > aforementioned churches as a teenager with my mom. They claimed to 
>have
> >>led
> >> > 276 lives to the Lord through thier Friday nite door-to-door 
>witnessing.
> >> > But
> >> > only one family was added to the church in this time. What they did 
>in
> >> > truth
> >> > (at least in my imagination) was leave 275 spiritual babies in the
> >> > dumpster.
> >> > This was thier fruit. They all had pictures of cadillacs on thier
> >> > refrigerators that they were claiming in the name of Jesus. They were
> >> > claiming health, peace, and properity. And they were claiming 276 
>souls
> >> > saved, 275 of which were in the dumpster. That is how you judge that.
> >>
> >>No.  YOU (nor I) judge that - judging is God's responsibility - 
>thankfully!
> >>Sounds like some A/G churches I've been in - and some Baptist, and
> >>Presbyterian, and Methodist.  So are they all bad?  You said you "ONCE 
>went
> >>to ONE".  Do you know for a fact that they didn't invite and reinvite 
>those
> >>275 families to church?  Do you know for a fact that all 275 were left
> >>behind?  Some may have gone to other churches (God forbid that someone 
>not
> >>like OUR church), how many people saved in your church over the last 
>year
> >>are
> >>still attending your church?  How many did you mentor?  As a teenager 
>were
> >>you really aware of what was going on or did you simply respond/react to
> >>what
> >>you heard from      s?
> >>
> >>And what exactly is wrong with Cadillacs? The picture on my refrigerator 
>is
> >>Red Dodge Ram Truck - my son has a 4-wheeler, my daughter a Barbie bike 
>and
> >>my wife - a natural swimming pool.  Am I going to hell because we want
> >>these
> >>things?  Depends.  Depend son whether or not we have received and 
>accepted
> >>Jesus Christ as our personal savior and continue to live for Him until 
>He
> >>returns for us or we leave to see Him.  It doesn't matter whether I plan 
>to
> >>use that pickup for Rangers or for driving around in circles in a 
>parking
> >>lot.  And it doesn't matter if my wife wants the pool to have Christian
> >>parties at or simply for our family to relax around.
> >>
> >>It's interesting how we can judge someone by the picture on the
> >>refrigerator
> >>- instead of by what's in their heart (especially since we shouldn't be
> >>judging at all).
> >>
> >>
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