Aaaaannnd we have reached the dead of winter!

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:13 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Grant sets them straight with letter to editor

I own a 56cm Rivendell with a second top tube.  Brewster Fong thinks my bicycle 
is stupid and worthy of ridicule.  I think my bicycle is beautiful and I love 
riding it.

My 
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Brewster Fong thinks it is wrong for Grant to insult carbon fiber, but he 
doesn't mind insulting my bike.  I get it!  Brewster Fong says "whatever gets 
you riding!", but obviously doesn't really mean it.  I really mean it.  If you 
love your bike, that's awesome!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:46:43 AM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:

On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:15:16 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
On 02/25/2015 05:39 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
> Now, this is nothing but anedotal and just one example, but for my
> buddy, the right tool got him going! I don't care what it was made out
> of, but the supposedly stiff, uncomfortable aluminum frame road bike
> got him hooked and we love it!

Some of those Alu Specialized road bikes have riding positions very
similar to what GP was advocating back in 2002.  I know quite a few
people who have them and like them a lot.  I think the Zerts inserts are
pure placebo and the bikes would be better off with something wider than
a 25mm tire, but for something you can just walk into a LBS and get for
(by modern standards) relatively cheap money, there are lots worse bikes
people could buy.
Yes, it is not just Specialized, but all the biggies - Trek, C'dale and Giant 
to name a few - now offer more "upright" riding position for all their bikes.  
For example, Trek sells its carbon bikes with a H1 fit. That's the standard 
racing fit with low, low bars and super high saddles.  BUT, they also sell the 
same frames/bikes with a H2 fit that has higher bars and a more upright riding 
position. In fact, this is how the new 10.25lb Trek Emondo, or whatever it is 
called,  is being offered. Then again, if you're really going to spend $15k for 
a bike, it better be available in any position that you want!

I believe the credit for this positioning goes to Grant and his famous "raise 
dat stem" article that came out in the late 90s?!  Now, if we can only do 
something about G's fetish with double top tubes (on a 56cm frame!) and carbon 
bashing, we might have something....Good Luck!
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