Haven't seen any tanks on the battlefield with on-off motor controllers in quite a while.

With regards to the scooter motors currently being used and the newer generation of brush-less motors, let me add to the list of things that Prof. Sommer touched upon:

0) It's about time somebody started investigating this area. We old-timers can't keep doing the work for everyone :-)

1) Scooter motors have been proven reliable over many years of hard battling. We have no battlefield data for brush-less motors. As you are the pioneer in brush-less area, you'll need to provide good documentation along the way ... both good and bad.

2) Scooter motors weigh more, but that includes the weight of the gear reduction to bring them down to 400 rpm. Brush-less motors require external reduction, so you need to include that weight and cost when comparing them to scooter motors.

3) Scooter motors have a compact gear reduction that makes them easy to fit into almost any tank. Custom building a compact 30:1 reduction will take a couple iterations and more money. Personally, I really liked building reduction systems, but they do take extra building time and room in the tank.

4) We know from years of battlefield experience that scooter motors @ 400rpm provide sufficient torque to drive the tracks properly in all kinds of terrain, while conserving battery power. The motors you referenced provided thrust numbers for different size propellers, but you'll want to know torque and efficiency ratings before picking a winner.

5) Quite a few different types of motors have been used and abused on the battlefield over the years. Each time, the person using them believed that they had chosen the best alternative *for them*, optimizing performance, cost and reliability. Nonetheless, all veteran battlers have switched from one type of motor to another at least once as evolution shed light on a different sector of the optimization space.

Your experiments will hopefully shed some light into yet another design sector, but don't fall into the trap of believing that every dark sector is full of gold. The brush-less sector may be the next step in evolution or it may be a tar-pit swallowing up your time and money. We've been in enough tar-pits to know that they exist and that you don't always see them until you're well into them. We won't know whether the brush-less sector is solid ground or not until you build it, battle it and report back your findings.

Happy hunting.

On 3/29/2013 5:40 AM, Niels Erik Kristensen wrote:
Why does everyone use big heavy and week brushed motors?

Furthermore its difficult to buy regulators to them, so many "tankers"
control there tanks with a system of relays?

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