Yeah, most of the motors we use are in the 300-450W variety.  The issue
then is getting a speed controller that is beefy enough to handle the
motors.  Those 18AH batteries should be sufficient.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Niels Erik Kristensen <[email protected]> wrote:

> WOW-About  36watt!!  No wonder you dont make donouts on grass :-)   My
> motors are 800 watt each!  On 14,4 volt (lipo battery)
> Den fredag den 12. april 2013 22.54.27 UTC+2 skrev
> [email protected]:
>
>> Mike and Derek,
>> Thank you for your input. What "motors" would you advise in the 24V
>> range? The Panther weighs about 100lbs now, but will ultimately be around
>> 135lbs range.
>>
>> I currently have x2 12V Batteries, 18Ah each (Standby use 12.6 - 13.8V,
>> 2.7A, Cycle Use 14.5-14.9V  -5.4A).
>> My motors datasheet shows (for left motor, directly mounted to sprocket -
>> Right motor is spinner clockwise and performance slightly different):
>>
>> Data Type Value Range  No Load Current (A) 0.9-0.7
>> Speed (RPM) 116.2-95.1  Stall Load Torque (Nm) 21.3-17.5
>> Current (A) 13.0-14.7  Peak Power Power (W) 60.0-49.1
>> Torque (Nm) 11.1-9.1  Nominal  Power (W) 36.5 Nominal  (Peak Efficiency) 
>> Speed
>> (RPM) 82.1 Nominal    Current (A) 3.5 Nominal    Torque (Nm) 4.3 Nominal 
>> Again,
>> your input is very helpful!
>> Cheers from Utah,
>> Loic
>>
>> On Friday, April 12, 2013 1:24:25 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Mike is right.  24V motors are better than 12V motors since the 24V
>>> motors will be more efficient and actually use less amperage.  Sounds like
>>> you just need to get 24V motors with more torque.  Also if the batteries
>>> are not up to the task to delivery the amps the power hungry motors are
>>> asking for, that will also translate into no power.  The 24V scooter motors
>>> in my KV-2 are more than powerful enough to propel the 150lb. tank.  The
>>> batteries I was testing with (7AH x2, 12V in series to produce 24V@7AH)
>>> could make the tank do neutral turns while fully charged, but the power
>>> hungry motors will drain the puny batteries in less than 10 minutes.  I use
>>> less powerful motors on my Sturmtiger.  It weighs in at about 100lbs.  With
>>> proper batteries it will do neutral turns on concrete with my 190lbs
>>> sitting on the tank.  I don't sit on it anymore since I bent a few of the
>>> swing arms by doing that... :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Mike Mangus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dropping down in voltage probably not the answer for a zero turn on
>>>> grass.  I tried a couple different voltages (6 ans 12) and found the lesser
>>>> voltage simply didn't have enough omph to turn the tank.  12v was obviously
>>>> better.  If I could I would bump up to 24 or even 36 volts to get the power
>>>> required to zero turn, not to mention less amp draw over a 12v system.
>>>>
>>>> Tracks that grab will actually hurt pivot turning.  Smoother tracks
>>>> seem to let the tank pivot easier.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   ------------------------------
>>>>  *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 1:53 PM
>>>> *Subject:* [TANKS] Re: New Business
>>>>
>>>> Not yet Neil. The motors are 24V and not powerful enough. no problem
>>>> making a 360 on asphalt or concrete. We only reach 2km/hr or 1.3 mph (12
>>>> km/hr scale). This tank cruised at 46 km/hr. We are looking into other
>>>> motors right now (12V with more amps).  Also we are concerned about the
>>>> "accurate" Panther tracks which "grooves" might "grab" on the grass on a
>>>> 360degree turn. That would not be good for plastic tracks. Suggestions and
>>>> critics are welcomed!
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, April 12, 2013 3:21:51 AM UTC-6, Neil Rochford wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can your tank do zero turns on grass ?
>>>> Neil R
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