WOW-About  36watt!!  No wonder you dont make donouts on grass :-)   My 
motors are 800 watt each!  On 14,4 volt (lipo battery)
Den fredag den 12. april 2013 22.54.27 UTC+2 skrev 
[email protected]:
>
> Mike and Derek,
> Thank you for your input. What "motors" would you advise in the 24V range? 
> The Panther weighs about 100lbs now, but will ultimately be around 135lbs 
> range.
>
> I currently have x2 12V Batteries, 18Ah each (Standby use 12.6 - 13.8V, 
> 2.7A, Cycle Use 14.5-14.9V  -5.4A).
> My motors datasheet shows (for left motor, directly mounted to sprocket - 
> Right motor is spinner clockwise and performance slightly different):
>   
> Data Type Value Range  No Load Current (A) 0.9-0.7  
> Speed (RPM) 116.2-95.1  Stall Load Torque (Nm) 21.3-17.5  
> Current (A) 13.0-14.7  Peak Power Power (W) 60.0-49.1  
> Torque (Nm) 11.1-9.1  Nominal  Power (W) 36.5 Nominal  (Peak Efficiency) 
> Speed 
> (RPM) 82.1 Nominal    Current (A) 3.5 Nominal    Torque (Nm) 4.3 Nominal 
> Again, 
> your input is very helpful!
> Cheers from Utah,
> Loic
>
> On Friday, April 12, 2013 1:24:25 PM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Mike is right.  24V motors are better than 12V motors since the 24V 
>> motors will be more efficient and actually use less amperage.  Sounds like 
>> you just need to get 24V motors with more torque.  Also if the batteries 
>> are not up to the task to delivery the amps the power hungry motors are 
>> asking for, that will also translate into no power.  The 24V scooter motors 
>> in my KV-2 are more than powerful enough to propel the 150lb. tank.  The 
>> batteries I was testing with (7AH x2, 12V in series to produce 24V@7AH) 
>> could make the tank do neutral turns while fully charged, but the power 
>> hungry motors will drain the puny batteries in less than 10 minutes.  I use 
>> less powerful motors on my Sturmtiger.  It weighs in at about 100lbs.  With 
>> proper batteries it will do neutral turns on concrete with my 190lbs 
>> sitting on the tank.  I don't sit on it anymore since I bent a few of the 
>> swing arms by doing that... :)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Mike Mangus <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Dropping down in voltage probably not the answer for a zero turn on 
>>> grass.  I tried a couple different voltages (6 ans 12) and found the lesser 
>>> voltage simply didn't have enough omph to turn the tank.  12v was obviously 
>>> better.  If I could I would bump up to 24 or even 36 volts to get the power 
>>> required to zero turn, not to mention less amp draw over a 12v system.
>>>
>>> Tracks that grab will actually hurt pivot turning.  Smoother tracks seem 
>>> to let the tank pivot easier.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>   ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected] 
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 12, 2013 1:53 PM
>>> *Subject:* [TANKS] Re: New Business
>>>  
>>> Not yet Neil. The motors are 24V and not powerful enough. no problem 
>>> making a 360 on asphalt or concrete. We only reach 2km/hr or 1.3 mph (12 
>>> km/hr scale). This tank cruised at 46 km/hr. We are looking into other 
>>> motors right now (12V with more amps).  Also we are concerned about the 
>>> "accurate" Panther tracks which "grooves" might "grab" on the grass on a 
>>> 360degree turn. That would not be good for plastic tracks. Suggestions and 
>>> critics are welcomed! 
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 12, 2013 3:21:51 AM UTC-6, Neil Rochford wrote:
>>>
>>> Can your tank do zero turns on grass ?
>>> Neil R
>>>
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