The doubles are due to the wall. Notice the triples are slightly higher, and I think the triangle is the key. 420 feet seems to generate triples ala the Tiger's park.
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>wrote: > I’ll argue that the higher instance of doubles in Fenway is attributed > more to our whacky triangle in the outfield than the wall. The wall turns > screaming homers into singles, not doubles. Doubles off the wall are > usually higher with more hang time. But the triangle is crazy no-man’s > land. Let’s look at triples. Bet we have more because of the triangle and > those protrusions after the bases, especially third. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ray Salemi > *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 10:07 AM > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: Color on Bay Home Run? > > > > You are both right. > > Fenway is slightly below average for HR and much higher than average for > doubles. > > The occasional pop fly that lands over the wall is not statistically > significant. It occurs about as much as the screamer that is a single. And > right field eats up a lot of would be home runs. But lefties love flicking > singles and doubles off the wall. Fred Lynn specifically called out that > strategy for getting out of slumps. > > But enough qualitative crap. Here are the real numbers on Fenway. This is > an easy stat. You take the same players and see how they do at home and on > the road: > > Rk > > Park > Name<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=venueName&season=2009> > > Runs<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=runsFactor&season=2009> > > HR<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=HRFactor&season=2009> > > H<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=hitsFactor&season=2009> > > 2B<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=doublesFactor&season=2009> > > 3B<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=triplesFactor&season=2009> > > BB<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=walksFactor&season=2009> > > 11 > > Fenway Park (Boston, Massachusetts) > > 1.091 > > 0.936 > > 1.053 > > 1.621 > > 1.050 > > 0.906 > > > > What's also interesting is that the number of walks goes down. I wonder > why that would happen? > > Ray > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:37 AM, William Marino <[email protected]> > wrote: > > The Wall does both. There have been high fly balls that make it over, that > would be pop-up outs in most parks. There have been screaming line drives > that woud homers in any other park that become doubles (or even singles) in > Fenway. No one has the answer to this one, but my instinct is it is about > even. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri May 22 09:23:24 2009 > Subject: Re: Color on Bay Home Run? > > Wasn't it the Eck? And come on now, while Fenway isn't a homer haven like > some of the small new parks, it has been a complete truism that it's easier > to loft a seemingly harmless fly ball over the Green Monster than it is in > most places. The left field wall is simply closer in Fenway than it is > anywhere else. > > The best hitters in Fenway may have always been lefties, but that's because > they can flick opposite field doubles off the Monster that might have been > caught elsewhere. > > Steve O > > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > So who did the color on Jason Bay's two run home run yesterday? > The guy said something like, "He's not just a Fenway hitter, flipping the > ball over the wall." > > This tells me that either this guy is not from around here, new to > broadcasting, or just not very knowledgeable about baseball beyond the > cliches. Nobody "flips" a ball over a 31 foot wall, and the best hitters in > Fenway have always been lefties. > > -- > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > www.fpgasimulation.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" > www.fpgasimulation.com > > > > > > -- Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" www.fpgasimulation.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
