Never was a home run park. That was an urban legend based on a cursory glance at the 310 on the left field wall.
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>wrote: > Fenway, for most of our lives, was an above-average home run park (as was > Wrigley), but the incredible shrinking ballparks now make it almost a > pitcher's park. I'm pretty sure, however, that it's still a plus HR park to > left field, but the distance to right field and center make it tougher to > homer that way. Just don't have time to look up the splits. > > Steve O > > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> Okay, I can buy that. But you have to admit, that we have some funky >> stuff. It’s not just the wall. >> >> The bullpen was put there for Ted Williams. They noticed he hit the ball >> there a lot and so they put the bullpen there for him to get more homers. >> That made a whacky triangle even worse. You’ve got the right field foul >> pole way down the line for hooking home runs that a relatively really short. >> The wall is a spectacle in its own world. The left field seats protrude >> so that a fair ball slicing off the field can change directions completely. >> The wind can come from anywhere and even two different directions at once. >> It’s crazy. I love all that. I just hate the damned uncomfortable seats >> that don’t even face the action. >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ray Salemi >> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 10:19 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Color on Bay Home Run? >> >> >> >> The doubles are due to the wall. >> >> Notice the triples are slightly higher, and I think the triangle is the >> key. 420 feet seems to generate triples ala the Tiger's park. >> >> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Beaudoin, John < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> I’ll argue that the higher instance of doubles in Fenway is attributed >> more to our whacky triangle in the outfield than the wall. The wall turns >> screaming homers into singles, not doubles. Doubles off the wall are >> usually higher with more hang time. But the triangle is crazy no-man’s >> land. Let’s look at triples. Bet we have more because of the triangle and >> those protrusions after the bases, especially third. >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ray Salemi >> *Sent:* Friday, May 22, 2009 10:07 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> >> *Subject:* Re: Color on Bay Home Run? >> >> >> >> You are both right. >> >> Fenway is slightly below average for HR and much higher than average for >> doubles. >> >> The occasional pop fly that lands over the wall is not statistically >> significant. It occurs about as much as the screamer that is a single. And >> right field eats up a lot of would be home runs. But lefties love flicking >> singles and doubles off the wall. Fred Lynn specifically called out that >> strategy for getting out of slumps. >> >> But enough qualitative crap. Here are the real numbers on Fenway. This >> is an easy stat. You take the same players and see how they do at home and >> on the road: >> >> Rk >> >> Park >> Name<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=venueName&season=2009> >> >> Runs<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=runsFactor&season=2009> >> >> HR<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=HRFactor&season=2009> >> >> H<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=hitsFactor&season=2009> >> >> 2B<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=doublesFactor&season=2009> >> >> 3B<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=triplesFactor&season=2009> >> >> BB<http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=walksFactor&season=2009> >> >> 11 >> >> Fenway Park (Boston, Massachusetts) >> >> 1.091 >> >> 0.936 >> >> 1.053 >> >> 1.621 >> >> 1.050 >> >> 0.906 >> >> >> >> What's also interesting is that the number of walks goes down. I wonder >> why that would happen? >> >> Ray >> >> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:37 AM, William Marino <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> The Wall does both. There have been high fly balls that make it over, >> that would be pop-up outs in most parks. There have been screaming line >> drives that woud homers in any other park that become doubles (or even >> singles) in Fenway. No one has the answer to this one, but my instinct is >> it is about even. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Sent: Fri May 22 09:23:24 2009 >> Subject: Re: Color on Bay Home Run? >> >> Wasn't it the Eck? And come on now, while Fenway isn't a homer haven like >> some of the small new parks, it has been a complete truism that it's easier >> to loft a seemingly harmless fly ball over the Green Monster than it is in >> most places. The left field wall is simply closer in Fenway than it is >> anywhere else. >> >> The best hitters in Fenway may have always been lefties, but that's >> because they can flick opposite field doubles off the Monster that might >> have been caught elsewhere. >> >> Steve O >> >> >> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> So who did the color on Jason Bay's two run home run yesterday? >> The guy said something like, "He's not just a Fenway hitter, flipping the >> ball over the wall." >> >> This tells me that either this guy is not from around here, new to >> broadcasting, or just not very knowledgeable about baseball beyond the >> cliches. Nobody "flips" a ball over a 31 foot wall, and the best hitters in >> Fenway have always been lefties. >> >> -- >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> www.fpgasimulation.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> www.fpgasimulation.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" >> www.fpgasimulation.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- Author of "FPGA Simulation: A Complete Step-by-Step Guide" www.fpgasimulation.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
