Okay, I can buy that. But you have to admit, that we have some funky stuff. It's not just the wall.
The bullpen was put there for Ted Williams. They noticed he hit the ball there a lot and so they put the bullpen there for him to get more homers. That made a whacky triangle even worse. You've got the right field foul pole way down the line for hooking home runs that a relatively really short. The wall is a spectacle in its own world. The left field seats protrude so that a fair ball slicing off the field can change directions completely. The wind can come from anywhere and even two different directions at once. It's crazy. I love all that. I just hate the damned uncomfortable seats that don't even face the action. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Color on Bay Home Run? The doubles are due to the wall. Notice the triples are slightly higher, and I think the triangle is the key. 420 feet seems to generate triples ala the Tiger's park. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> wrote: I'll argue that the higher instance of doubles in Fenway is attributed more to our whacky triangle in the outfield than the wall. The wall turns screaming homers into singles, not doubles. Doubles off the wall are usually higher with more hang time. But the triangle is crazy no-man's land. Let's look at triples. Bet we have more because of the triangle and those protrusions after the bases, especially third. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Color on Bay Home Run? You are both right. Fenway is slightly below average for HR and much higher than average for doubles. The occasional pop fly that lands over the wall is not statistically significant. It occurs about as much as the screamer that is a single. And right field eats up a lot of would be home runs. But lefties love flicking singles and doubles off the wall. Fred Lynn specifically called out that strategy for getting out of slumps. But enough qualitative crap. Here are the real numbers on Fenway. This is an easy stat. You take the same players and see how they do at home and on the road: Rk Park Name <http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=venueName&season=20 09> Runs <http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=runsFactor&season=2 009> HR <http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=HRFactor&season=200 9> H <http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=hitsFactor&season=2 009> 2B <http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=doublesFactor&seaso n=2009> 3B <http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=triplesFactor&seaso n=2009> BB <http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor?sort=walksFactor&season= 2009> 11 Fenway Park (Boston, Massachusetts) 1.091 0.936 1.053 1.621 1.050 0.906 What's also interesting is that the number of walks goes down. I wonder why that would happen? Ray On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 9:37 AM, William Marino <[email protected]> wrote: The Wall does both. There have been high fly balls that make it over, that would be pop-up outs in most parks. There have been screaming line drives that woud homers in any other park that become doubles (or even singles) in Fenway. No one has the answer to this one, but my instinct is it is about even. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri May 22 09:23:24 2009 Subject: Re: Color on Bay Home Run? Wasn't it the Eck? And come on now, while Fenway isn't a homer haven like some of the small new parks, it has been a complete truism that it's easier to loft a seemingly harmless fly ball over the Green Monster than it is in most places. The left field wall is simply closer in Fenway than it is anywhere else. The best hitters in Fenway may have always been lefties, but that's because they can flick opposite field doubles off the Monster that might have been caught elsewhere. 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