Though, I have to say, that John's probably off base when it comes to
pointing at the conditioning coach.

I think these athletes have figured out how to keep their bodies going at
this level.  They've been playing every day for 10-20 years.  They know what
to do about stretching.

I just think we've hit a string of bad luck.  Bad luck and Adrien Beltre.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:

> While the military talk was a bit off our normal theme, I'm not sure it
> qualified as political talk. I'm sure one could find Democrats and
> Republicans who can find fault with Ray's original point.
>
> He's a uniter!
>
> BTW, I am totally pro-stretching and anti-injury.
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Politics?  That was like...hours ago.
>>
>> Now we're back to the ruinous injuries of 2010.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Robinson, Darren <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>> Enjoyed reading the groups postings with regards to the Sox, has been
>>> very entertaining.  Is unfortunate that politics is being introduced.
>>>
>>> Likely will not realize I am unsubscribing, however, wish everyone well,
>>> hopefully it's focus is back on the Sox.
>>>
>>> Darren Robinson
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:00 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>>>
>>> Says you, John.
>>>
>>> Says you.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Beaudoin, John
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > It would be a nice theme for another holiday.  Maybe create another
>>> holiday.
>>> >
>>> > This holiday is the day we declared our independence through taking up
>>> arms against England.  It's all about military and always has been, in my
>>> opinion.  To change that would be to dishonor those who gave their lives in
>>> the creation of our country.
>>> >
>>> > Baseball talk anyone?
>>> > One loss and everyone starts typing.  LOL
>>> > Wins get crickets' chirps.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
>>> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:35 PM
>>> > To: [email protected]
>>> > Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>>> >
>>> > "make the most free country on the planet. A country spawning
>>> > centuries of innovation giving us technology and medicine that are
>>> > incredulous to think about"
>>> >
>>> > This would be quite a nice theme.
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Beaudoin, John <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> Your viewpoint is also interesting, Dan. I guess I never
>>> second-guessed the
>>> >> military theme of the Fourth of July before. It was always my holiday
>>> as I
>>> >> was born the day before it. The whole bombs bursting in air with
>>> fireworks
>>> >> and such. I don't suppose they lit those bombs for a display of fun in
>>> 1812
>>> >> or before.
>>> >>
>>> >> I can't imagine a Fourth of July celebration without a military theme.
>>> The
>>> >> guys didn't just decide over some beers that we were going to split
>>> off from
>>> >> England and then just ignore the British till they went away. Many
>>> good men
>>> >> took up arms to take freedom. They laid down their lives to rip
>>> freedom from
>>> >> our oppressors and make the most free country on the planet. A country
>>> >> spawning centuries of innovation giving us technology and medicine
>>> that are
>>> >> incredulous to think about. Not to mention that most of it came from
>>> >> military research funding. Yes, all this technology that saves lives
>>> came
>>> >> from funding of weapons. And the Fourth of July is and always has
>>> been, in
>>> >> my opinion, about our military might that created our great nation AND
>>> has
>>> >> saved many countries and peoples from genocide, oppression,
>>> persecution, and
>>> >> annihilation.
>>> >>
>>> >> And I'm not even that patriotic any more.
>>> >>
>>> >> John
>>> >> ________________________________
>>> >> From: [email protected] <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> >> Sent: Mon Jul 05 08:02:57 2010
>>> >> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>>> >>
>>> >> Interesting point of view, Ray. The Macy's NYC fireworks last night
>>> had a
>>> >> military aspect, playing several branches of
>>> >> the military's anthems - but also had some strange selections that I
>>> can't
>>> >> recall - non-military. But I guess having won
>>> >> our independence via force of arms 234 years ago, there has always
>>> been a
>>> >> military aspect to the celebration. It's just
>>> >> more so now that are actively involved in conflicts and everyone
>>> supports
>>> >> the troops (if not the wars).
>>> >>
>>> >> I wonder if the celebrations had the same feelings during the Vietnam
>>> War. I
>>> >> am guessing not.
>>> >>
>>> >> Oh, and if the Sox make Tynan a regular visitor/singer, like he was
>>> for the
>>> >> Yankees, then I will be glad not to be able tro
>>> >> see most Sox games on TV. The guy is a blowhard and self-centered
>>> jerk. He
>>> >> used to take a 2 1/2 minute song and turn
>>> >> it into a 'look at me' 5 minute rendition at Yankee Stadium.
>>> >>
>>> >> Dan D
>>> >> Central NJ USA
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ________________________________
>>> >> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]>
>>> >> To: [email protected]
>>> >> Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:46:32 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>>> >>
>>> >> I will say this.  Ronan Tynan was the only aspect of the Fourth of
>>> >> July festivities that didn't show off America's military power.  From
>>> >> the veterans to the jet plane flyover to the martial music from
>>> >> previous wars, I was struck by how much the 4th was now associated
>>> >> with war.
>>> >>
>>> >> One of the the things I love about baseball is the way that it
>>> >> reflects the community.  For example we have the Brockton Rox and
>>> >> Irish American day and we have the Worcester Tornadoes and  Cub Scout.
>>> >> We also have the PMC tribute at Fenway (which always makes me tear
>>> >> up).
>>> >>
>>> >> Our baseball games reflect what is important to our community. And I
>>> >> was really struck by how much we've allowed war and military power
>>> >> define America.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ray
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Steve Ouellette <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> At Fenway Park. Really? First Don Zimmer in the Hall of Fame, now
>>> this ...
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Steve O
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