Politics?  That was like...hours ago.

Now we're back to the ruinous injuries of 2010.

Ray


On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Robinson, Darren <[email protected]
> wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> Enjoyed reading the groups postings with regards to the Sox, has been very
> entertaining.  Is unfortunate that politics is being introduced.
>
> Likely will not realize I am unsubscribing, however, wish everyone well,
> hopefully it's focus is back on the Sox.
>
> Darren Robinson
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:00 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>
> Says you, John.
>
> Says you.
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Beaudoin, John
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > It would be a nice theme for another holiday.  Maybe create another
> holiday.
> >
> > This holiday is the day we declared our independence through taking up
> arms against England.  It's all about military and always has been, in my
> opinion.  To change that would be to dishonor those who gave their lives in
> the creation of our country.
> >
> > Baseball talk anyone?
> > One loss and everyone starts typing.  LOL
> > Wins get crickets' chirps.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:35 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
> >
> > "make the most free country on the planet. A country spawning
> > centuries of innovation giving us technology and medicine that are
> > incredulous to think about"
> >
> > This would be quite a nice theme.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> Your viewpoint is also interesting, Dan. I guess I never second-guessed
> the
> >> military theme of the Fourth of July before. It was always my holiday as
> I
> >> was born the day before it. The whole bombs bursting in air with
> fireworks
> >> and such. I don't suppose they lit those bombs for a display of fun in
> 1812
> >> or before.
> >>
> >> I can't imagine a Fourth of July celebration without a military theme.
> The
> >> guys didn't just decide over some beers that we were going to split off
> from
> >> England and then just ignore the British till they went away. Many good
> men
> >> took up arms to take freedom. They laid down their lives to rip freedom
> from
> >> our oppressors and make the most free country on the planet. A country
> >> spawning centuries of innovation giving us technology and medicine that
> are
> >> incredulous to think about. Not to mention that most of it came from
> >> military research funding. Yes, all this technology that saves lives
> came
> >> from funding of weapons. And the Fourth of July is and always has been,
> in
> >> my opinion, about our military might that created our great nation AND
> has
> >> saved many countries and peoples from genocide, oppression, persecution,
> and
> >> annihilation.
> >>
> >> And I'm not even that patriotic any more.
> >>
> >> John
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Mon Jul 05 08:02:57 2010
> >> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
> >>
> >> Interesting point of view, Ray. The Macy's NYC fireworks last night had
> a
> >> military aspect, playing several branches of
> >> the military's anthems - but also had some strange selections that I
> can't
> >> recall - non-military. But I guess having won
> >> our independence via force of arms 234 years ago, there has always been
> a
> >> military aspect to the celebration. It's just
> >> more so now that are actively involved in conflicts and everyone
> supports
> >> the troops (if not the wars).
> >>
> >> I wonder if the celebrations had the same feelings during the Vietnam
> War. I
> >> am guessing not.
> >>
> >> Oh, and if the Sox make Tynan a regular visitor/singer, like he was for
> the
> >> Yankees, then I will be glad not to be able tro
> >> see most Sox games on TV. The guy is a blowhard and self-centered jerk.
> He
> >> used to take a 2 1/2 minute song and turn
> >> it into a 'look at me' 5 minute rendition at Yankee Stadium.
> >>
> >> Dan D
> >> Central NJ USA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:46:32 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
> >>
> >> I will say this.  Ronan Tynan was the only aspect of the Fourth of
> >> July festivities that didn't show off America's military power.  From
> >> the veterans to the jet plane flyover to the martial music from
> >> previous wars, I was struck by how much the 4th was now associated
> >> with war.
> >>
> >> One of the the things I love about baseball is the way that it
> >> reflects the community.  For example we have the Brockton Rox and
> >> Irish American day and we have the Worcester Tornadoes and  Cub Scout.
> >> We also have the PMC tribute at Fenway (which always makes me tear
> >> up).
> >>
> >> Our baseball games reflect what is important to our community. And I
> >> was really struck by how much we've allowed war and military power
> >> define America.
> >>
> >> Ray
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Steve Ouellette <
> [email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>> At Fenway Park. Really? First Don Zimmer in the Hall of Fame, now this
> ...
> >>>
> >>> Steve O
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