While the military talk was a bit off our normal theme, I'm not sure it
qualified as political talk. I'm sure one could find Democrats and
Republicans who can find fault with Ray's original point.

He's a uniter!

BTW, I am totally pro-stretching and anti-injury.

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Politics?  That was like...hours ago.
>
> Now we're back to the ruinous injuries of 2010.
>
> Ray
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Robinson, Darren <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>> Enjoyed reading the groups postings with regards to the Sox, has been very
>> entertaining.  Is unfortunate that politics is being introduced.
>>
>> Likely will not realize I am unsubscribing, however, wish everyone well,
>> hopefully it's focus is back on the Sox.
>>
>> Darren Robinson
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:00 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>>
>> Says you, John.
>>
>> Says you.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Beaudoin, John
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > It would be a nice theme for another holiday.  Maybe create another
>> holiday.
>> >
>> > This holiday is the day we declared our independence through taking up
>> arms against England.  It's all about military and always has been, in my
>> opinion.  To change that would be to dishonor those who gave their lives in
>> the creation of our country.
>> >
>> > Baseball talk anyone?
>> > One loss and everyone starts typing.  LOL
>> > Wins get crickets' chirps.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
>> > Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:35 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>> >
>> > "make the most free country on the planet. A country spawning
>> > centuries of innovation giving us technology and medicine that are
>> > incredulous to think about"
>> >
>> > This would be quite a nice theme.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Beaudoin, John <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> >> Your viewpoint is also interesting, Dan. I guess I never second-guessed
>> the
>> >> military theme of the Fourth of July before. It was always my holiday
>> as I
>> >> was born the day before it. The whole bombs bursting in air with
>> fireworks
>> >> and such. I don't suppose they lit those bombs for a display of fun in
>> 1812
>> >> or before.
>> >>
>> >> I can't imagine a Fourth of July celebration without a military theme.
>> The
>> >> guys didn't just decide over some beers that we were going to split off
>> from
>> >> England and then just ignore the British till they went away. Many good
>> men
>> >> took up arms to take freedom. They laid down their lives to rip freedom
>> from
>> >> our oppressors and make the most free country on the planet. A country
>> >> spawning centuries of innovation giving us technology and medicine that
>> are
>> >> incredulous to think about. Not to mention that most of it came from
>> >> military research funding. Yes, all this technology that saves lives
>> came
>> >> from funding of weapons. And the Fourth of July is and always has been,
>> in
>> >> my opinion, about our military might that created our great nation AND
>> has
>> >> saved many countries and peoples from genocide, oppression,
>> persecution, and
>> >> annihilation.
>> >>
>> >> And I'm not even that patriotic any more.
>> >>
>> >> John
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]
>> >
>> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> >> Sent: Mon Jul 05 08:02:57 2010
>> >> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>> >>
>> >> Interesting point of view, Ray. The Macy's NYC fireworks last night had
>> a
>> >> military aspect, playing several branches of
>> >> the military's anthems - but also had some strange selections that I
>> can't
>> >> recall - non-military. But I guess having won
>> >> our independence via force of arms 234 years ago, there has always been
>> a
>> >> military aspect to the celebration. It's just
>> >> more so now that are actively involved in conflicts and everyone
>> supports
>> >> the troops (if not the wars).
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if the celebrations had the same feelings during the Vietnam
>> War. I
>> >> am guessing not.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, and if the Sox make Tynan a regular visitor/singer, like he was for
>> the
>> >> Yankees, then I will be glad not to be able tro
>> >> see most Sox games on TV. The guy is a blowhard and self-centered jerk.
>> He
>> >> used to take a 2 1/2 minute song and turn
>> >> it into a 'look at me' 5 minute rendition at Yankee Stadium.
>> >>
>> >> Dan D
>> >> Central NJ USA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
>> >> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]>
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:46:32 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>> >>
>> >> I will say this.  Ronan Tynan was the only aspect of the Fourth of
>> >> July festivities that didn't show off America's military power.  From
>> >> the veterans to the jet plane flyover to the martial music from
>> >> previous wars, I was struck by how much the 4th was now associated
>> >> with war.
>> >>
>> >> One of the the things I love about baseball is the way that it
>> >> reflects the community.  For example we have the Brockton Rox and
>> >> Irish American day and we have the Worcester Tornadoes and  Cub Scout.
>> >> We also have the PMC tribute at Fenway (which always makes me tear
>> >> up).
>> >>
>> >> Our baseball games reflect what is important to our community. And I
>> >> was really struck by how much we've allowed war and military power
>> >> define America.
>> >>
>> >> Ray
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Steve Ouellette <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> At Fenway Park. Really? First Don Zimmer in the Hall of Fame, now this
>> ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Steve O
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