Hi Guys,
Enjoyed reading the groups postings with regards to the Sox, has been very 
entertaining.  Is unfortunate that politics is being introduced.

Likely will not realize I am unsubscribing, however, wish everyone well, 
hopefully it's focus is back on the Sox.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan

Says you, John.

Says you.

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Beaudoin, John
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> It would be a nice theme for another holiday.  Maybe create another holiday.
>
> This holiday is the day we declared our independence through taking up arms 
> against England.  It's all about military and always has been, in my opinion. 
>  To change that would be to dishonor those who gave their lives in the 
> creation of our country.
>
> Baseball talk anyone?
> One loss and everyone starts typing.  LOL
> Wins get crickets' chirps.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 11:35 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>
> "make the most free country on the planet. A country spawning
> centuries of innovation giving us technology and medicine that are
> incredulous to think about"
>
> This would be quite a nice theme.
>
> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> Your viewpoint is also interesting, Dan. I guess I never second-guessed the
>> military theme of the Fourth of July before. It was always my holiday as I
>> was born the day before it. The whole bombs bursting in air with fireworks
>> and such. I don't suppose they lit those bombs for a display of fun in 1812
>> or before.
>>
>> I can't imagine a Fourth of July celebration without a military theme. The
>> guys didn't just decide over some beers that we were going to split off from
>> England and then just ignore the British till they went away. Many good men
>> took up arms to take freedom. They laid down their lives to rip freedom from
>> our oppressors and make the most free country on the planet. A country
>> spawning centuries of innovation giving us technology and medicine that are
>> incredulous to think about. Not to mention that most of it came from
>> military research funding. Yes, all this technology that saves lives came
>> from funding of weapons. And the Fourth of July is and always has been, in
>> my opinion, about our military might that created our great nation AND has
>> saved many countries and peoples from genocide, oppression, persecution, and
>> annihilation.
>>
>> And I'm not even that patriotic any more.
>>
>> John
>> ________________________________
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Mon Jul 05 08:02:57 2010
>> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>>
>> Interesting point of view, Ray. The Macy's NYC fireworks last night had a
>> military aspect, playing several branches of
>> the military's anthems - but also had some strange selections that I can't
>> recall - non-military. But I guess having won
>> our independence via force of arms 234 years ago, there has always been a
>> military aspect to the celebration. It's just
>> more so now that are actively involved in conflicts and everyone supports
>> the troops (if not the wars).
>>
>> I wonder if the celebrations had the same feelings during the Vietnam War. I
>> am guessing not.
>>
>> Oh, and if the Sox make Tynan a regular visitor/singer, like he was for the
>> Yankees, then I will be glad not to be able tro
>> see most Sox games on TV. The guy is a blowhard and self-centered jerk. He
>> used to take a 2 1/2 minute song and turn
>> it into a 'look at me' 5 minute rendition at Yankee Stadium.
>>
>> Dan D
>> Central NJ USA
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Ray Salemi <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 8:46:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: Ronan Tynan
>>
>> I will say this.  Ronan Tynan was the only aspect of the Fourth of
>> July festivities that didn't show off America's military power.  From
>> the veterans to the jet plane flyover to the martial music from
>> previous wars, I was struck by how much the 4th was now associated
>> with war.
>>
>> One of the the things I love about baseball is the way that it
>> reflects the community.  For example we have the Brockton Rox and
>> Irish American day and we have the Worcester Tornadoes and  Cub Scout.
>> We also have the PMC tribute at Fenway (which always makes me tear
>> up).
>>
>> Our baseball games reflect what is important to our community. And I
>> was really struck by how much we've allowed war and military power
>> define America.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> At Fenway Park. Really? First Don Zimmer in the Hall of Fame, now this ...
>>>
>>> Steve O
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