Hi ni nhar,

Writing that email to pine64 is a good first step.

Then, if you get positive feedback, you can start looking for a
developer that is willing and skillful to do the port.
You do not have to act as a middleman forever, you just have to do the
bridging and connect people.

I am stressing this part, because, perhaps harder than getting the
funds, is finding the right person, with the skill and perseverance to
take the porting work to fruition. Depending on what's already
available, porting Replicant to a new device can be a really long and
hard task.
As GNUtoo pointed out in a previous email, there are many unknowns with
the way that pinphone's hardware works, and that must be addressed once
the porting effort starts for real: Wifi/BT firmware, modem protocol,
cameras firmware, etc.

You are indeed correct. Hosting a crowdfunding campaign outside
Replicant's of FSF's website would be a bad move. Try to follow GNUtoo's
pointer about Snowdrift and check if there is a crowdfunding solution
compatible with Replicant ideals.
You can surely ask FSF for support while organizing the crowdfund,
specially on how to deal with the funds. Though, do not expect FSF to do
the heavy lifting. FSF only employs a minimal amount of staff. Projects
under its umbrella are pretty much independent and must fend for
themselves. You will have to dedicate some time to plan, write, organize
and run the crowdfunding campaign yourself (I bet that at least a few
people from Replicant's community would help you).

I have only minor contributions to Replicant.


On 21/07/2019 13:04, ni nhar wrote:
>> Thank you for not dodging when facing criticism.
>>  I actually believe they will be more than happy
>> to provide a phone or a
>> devboard.
> Maybe.
> On armbian's forum a person I believe is the chief of
> pine64 has given away soc computers for
> free.
>>  I see that you have a deep interest on getting
>> Replicant support for the
>> pinephone.
> Not in pinephone. In getting a new replicant phone
> available for
> people. Do you know a better option than the
> pinephone?
>> If that's so, I believe that there is nobody
>> better suited
>> than yourself to take on the task.
> I disagree. Because I do not have the technical
> skills, there are better
> people to approach pine64. If none of you are
> prepared to
> email the chief of pine64 I can do it. But I will
> tell him about my
> limited knowledge on the matter. Then he may get
> piqued asking himself, why doesn't a qualified
> person from replicant
> write me?
>> If you feel that you do not have the
>> necessary technical skills, you can always do the
>> following:
>> 1. Ask around and find a developer that is willing
>> and skillful to take
>> on the porting effort.
> How can that be effective having me as a
> middleman?
>> 2. Create the crowd funding yourself to fund the
>> development effort.
> I can look into how to plan a crowd funding. I can
> ask fsf if
> they want to contribute? Fsf has the required
> software and knows how to organize
> a crowd funding. One version I like is when a
> main sponsor declares he will double paid amounts
> up to
> a set limit. It motivates people to pay and
> ensures the
> main sponsor only has to pay if people show
> interest in a given crowd funding.
>> I
>> bet you will get the consent from the Replicant
>> project to use their
>> name on the crowd funding page.
> That is irresponsible if you say replicant would
> endorse a crowd funding outside their
> own or fsf's website. And I would want people to
> ignore such an endorsement. You do
> not know if the money gets stolen. The crowd
> funding must either be on fsf or replicant's
> website. Receiver of
> the money should be a cashier in fsf.
>> On a personal note. I wouldn't focus my time and
>> attention on pinephone
>> right now. Mostly because it is still a promise
>> and not an actual device
>> people can buy. As you can be seen at:
>> https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
>>> This item is not yet available for purchase from
>> the PINE64 store.
> It is a valid consideration.
>> I would wait until it starts being mass produced.
> That would be one way to deal with the pinephone.
> A hesitant
> approach. To me the pinephone is a move against
> established manufactures. Free software people have
> an interest in promoting the phone, assuming it
> works. One
> part is providing as many software systems and as
> fast as
> doable.
>> However, if you
>> believe that pinephone will be successful, then
>> please give it a push.
>> GNUtoo already did the initial review and it seems
>> to fit most (if not
>> all) Replicant requirements.
> I suggest I write the chief of pine64 an email.
> Telling him
> replicant is interested in the phone. But reluctant
> because of the early stage the pinephone is in.
> I can ask him if pine64 would be interested in
> cooperating about devising a strategy
> regarding replicant.
>> David
> Are you a replicant programmer?
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