On 4/27/09 2:12 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Chris McDonough wrote: >> On 4/27/09 1:28 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: >>> Chris McDonough wrote: >>> >>>> But anyway, yeah. For someone who has never used zope.component, though, >>>> it's >>>> really not that important ("more strictly" compares to zope.component). >>> Reading that page as someone who does use zope.component, I was also not >>> entirely convinced of the rationale for this package. I'm not saying >>> there isn't one (though it smells a bit unfortunate that we're inventing >>> a plugin system that's almost the same as zope.component, yet >>> incompatible), but the aforementioned documentation didn't explain it >>> sufficiently IMHO. >> There's no *good* reason. The only reasons are bad. > > Agreed. > >> The primary driver is that >> we're trying to work with the Pylons community to share implementation bits. >> I >> suggested that they might use something like zope.configuration to do system >> configuration. But it turns out that some in that community are completely >> befuddled by zope.component and those in that community who are not >> befuddled by >> it are actively hostile to it. They may still be befuddled by and hostile to >> something that is simpler, but at least we'll have something to argue about >> on >> technical grounds rather than emotion. > > I can't see much reason for us to try to share code with people who > won't even attempt a rational evaluation of the candidate.
Personally, I think there is benefit to both reaching out to people who aren't quite on board as well as participating in some introspection about why we do what we do. I don't attempt a rational evaluation of, say, Mathematica, because I just can't see how it would help me in my every day life. OTOH, if I had a library that just did simple graphing, I'd have some context as to how it might help me (even if I ended up disusing it anyway). > -1 to > bikeshedding this thing further; +1 to an 'svn rm'. Bikeshedding? I'm beggining to hate that word. Like "Pythonic". I really don't care about the bits; it's more a decomposition exercise. There's always your mailer's "ignore thread". - C _______________________________________________ Repoze-dev mailing list Repozefirstname.lastname@example.org http://lists.repoze.org/listinfo/repoze-dev