i know that and i blame him(chomsky) many others for the pro palestinian anti 
israel over board stuff at our colleges these days. 
i said i only liked to listen to some things sullivan said. not all, i also 
stated i couldn't understand being gay why he would support bush. evidently he 
didn't. but just like every one , no one is completely with out value, no one 
always says good or bad things.
that is why we call it a dialog? we learn form listening to those we like as 
well as dislike.
like him if you want to (chomsky) i agree with those who don't. sorry.
i have said many good and postive things about arabs. i have yet in a 
discussion hear any arab say anyting positive about israel, with the exception 
of those sites that are pro israel?
but in discussions not a one. i don't re call wesley ever saying any thing good 
about israel. sorry if i missed it.
that is not  balanced.
and really i didn't see that sullivan made a fool of himself. i watched the 
show. he just stated how he felt. it wasn't a fit. i was thinking it was some 
one he would have liked, instead he didn't. the week before richard beltzer did 
throw a fit and threaten to walk off stage over Anne Coulter. so context?
he called her a facist party doll. and had nothing but contemptious things to 
say about her. 
i just find republican gays a bit unusual. 20% of them voted for bush? along 
with almost all orthodox jews? strange bed fellows if you ask me. 
honestly , i care not either way. i only know for myself, i have a hard enough 
time with that. 
i don't have any heroes here.   


Oh come on. Sullivan is right-wing asshole and everything he said about
Chomsky is absurd. Chomsky is a scholar who is admired by more
progressives than anyone else on the left and he was not booed. If you
listened to Bill Mayer, he said he was requested by more people than
anyone else he has had on his show. Simpson was booed and so was Sullivan
and when not scratching his ass he was trying to put his head back there.  
The guy is a jerk.

Wesley is right. Many on the left were Zionists. Today they are 
post-Zionists. Zionism betrayed the left by becoming a victim ideology.
As it was originally intended, to provide a haven from oppression, it 
worked but when neglected the rights of others it stopped being worthy and 
most definitely not deserving of being defended for that by the left. The 
left in Israel understands this more than you may realize. It isn't that 
the left is betraying Israel, it is the Israeli government and right-wing 
policies which has betrayed the left-progressive vision.

It is understandable that you hate Chomsky. He tells the truth.

Hank



On Tue, 9 Nov 2004, donnella whitacre wrote:

> 
> please wesley, he is no zionist. i would not be suprised that you back
> him . he was on bill maher the other night and almost got booed off the
> stage. alan sullivan of the new republican had a lot ot say about him.
> and while i dont agree with alan all the time, he is interesting to
> listen to.
> 
> Wesley Parish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:omigod, Chomsky was a
> Zionist from the word go.  He was also a man of impeccable scholarly
> integrity.
> 
> The problem with Zionism was that it conflicted with his impeccable
> scholarly integrity, so the two parted company.
> 
> Is that why you despise him, donnella?
> 
> Shalom
> 


> Wesley Parish
> 
> Quoting donnella whitacre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > 
> > chomsky is not the one to quote to me. i dispise him. sorry. 
> > 





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