cool thanks for the clarification.  I'm so sorry that you have to use EF.
 Perhaps you were bad in a previous life. :)
Thanks again for all your help.
R

On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Nathan Stott <[email protected]> wrote:

> Since I'm using EF in new .NET projects, I've just rolled my own.
>
> For the projects I am maintaining that use RS, it has worked fine and
> I am sure will continue to work fine for the lifetime of these
> products.  Some people have reported problems with RS performance for
> very large userbases with lots of operations.
>
> RS is a mature project that works well for what it does.
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Raif <[email protected]> wrote:
> > First, sorry, I am recompiling with NH3 I was just under the
> > impression that NH3 had removed ICriteria in favor of QueryOver but
> > that is not the case.
> > Second, Thank you for the offer but I don't think I would be a good
> > manager for RS as I can barely get to the email I have now.  I do
> > appreciate your doing the job.
> > Third, I don't mean you push the point but if your not using it for
> > new dev what are you using?  Did you branch RS for you a more specific
> > purpose or have you rolled your own?  RS does seem to cover most bases
> > but if you have more experience with it and have come across some
> > short comings I'd like to hear about it and see if a) it's a going to
> > burn me later or b) if I should try and address the issue and submit a
> > patch.
> > Thanks
> > Raif
> >
> > On May 15, 10:13 pm, Nathan Stott <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I am using RS in projects I am maintaining.  I'm just not using it for
> >> new development.  I will be happy to apply any well-made patches that
> >> address issues or add functionality.  If they have good unit tests,
> >> they are good by me.
> >>
> >> RS is still a great project.  It simply does everything I need it to
> >> do in the projects I am maintaining.  I think the same is true for
> >> many of its users.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Deke Kraft <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > If you and Oren aren't using RS anymore, what are you using/suggest?
> >>
> >> > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Nathan Stott <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> You can use RS with NH3 without recompiling it with the NH3 library?
> >> >> That doesn't sound right.  It should certainly work with NH3 criteria
> >> >> if you recompile using NH3 dependency though.
> >>
> >> >> Oren isn't using RS any longer except in existing projects.  The same
> >> >> is true of me.  Oren passed the torch of RS to me to watch over it
> and
> >> >> simply accept commits that fix issues.  If you want to actively
> >> >> develop RS, I will be happy to pass the torch to you.
> >>
> >> >> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Raif <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi, in looking at this further, it seems that you can actually use
> >> >> > criteria in NH3 the same way as you would in NH2.1.  And as such
> the
> >> >> > RS can be used fully in with NH3.
> >> >> > It might be nice to build the QueryOver stuff into it, in fact it
> >> >> > certainly would because QueryOver is strongly typed and criteria
> uses
> >> >> > strings, but it is not necessary.  Furthermore, I don't believe you
> >> >> > can use linq with the QueryOver stuff but you can with the
> ICriteria
> >> >> > stuff.  It's a tough call.
> >> >> > I think if someone can show me that you can use linq with the
> >> >> > queryover I would build an AuthorizationRepository that used it.
>  But
> >> >> > unless you can some how turn an IQueryable<T> into a QueryOver<T,T>
> I
> >> >> > don't see how.
> >> >> > R
> >>
> >> >> > On May 12, 4:33 pm, Raif <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >> hrumph.
> >> >> >> that sucks.
> >> >> >> Essentially with out these features RS days are numbered.
> >> >> >> so
> >> >> >> 1) what is Oren doing?  I presume he's still using it and I
> presume
> >> >> >> he's using NH3
> >> >> >> 2) It would seem that the changes to make it compatible with NH3
> are/
> >> >> >> would be to change any method that returns an ICriteria to instead
> >> >> >> return an IQueryOver<T,T>.  This I believe would be the private
> >> >> >> GetPermissionQueryInternal methods. they would take the same args
> but
> >> >> >> use the queryover to build up the IQueryOver<T,T>.
> >> >> >> Does this sound right or would it involve a lot more?
> >> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> >> Raif
> >>
> >> >> >> On May 12, 3:14 pm, Nathan Stott <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Raif <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > So I guess my questions are
> >> >> >> > > 1) Can I use RS and NH3 and linq?
> >>
> >> >> >> > No
> >>
> >> >> >> > > 2) Can I use RS and NH3 and Criteria?
> >>
> >> >> >> > No
> >>
> >> >> >> > > 3) Can I even use RS and NH3 or does it need to be refactored
> to
> >> >> >> > > use
> >> >> >> > > NH3.
> >>
> >> >> >> > Needs to be refacoted to use NH3.  It currently uses NH
> 2.1.0.4000
> >>
> >> >> >> > > 4) Should I look at extending the RSRepository to use linq or
> will
> >> >> >> > > that kill all the level 2 cache stuff and/or is that a huge
> >> >> >> > > undertaking.
> >>
> >> >> >> > If you are interested in doing this refactor, it would be much
> >> >> >> > welcomed by RS users and may even promote a renaissance of RS
> usage.
> >> >> >> > It will not be trivial
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