erland;368468 Wrote: 
> Sure, there is an obvious problem with the detection logic, but this
> still doesn't mean it is guessing. The detection logic still does what
> it is supposed to do and it is perfectly predictable what it will do if
> you know the rules, this is not guessing.
> 
> If the logic was based on a random generated number and wasn't
> predictable it would be guessing.

sorry, when its wrong half the time in terms of a meaningful result, i
call it guessing, and i will continue to do so.

and moreover, the whole point is to examine the following questions:

1. should the VA logic be mandatory?
2. do better ways exist?

i would say 1. no, 2. yes.

it just boggles my mind that some people here are SO against making it
optional, and using other detection methods that would be better.

erland;368468 Wrote: 
> I think we all understand that the VA logic doesn't work correctly in a
> library which is tagged as yours,

mine isn't unusual.

most people use mp3s, and will have differing TPE1 values for comps, as
both gracenote and freedb mark tracks that way.

if they don't have TPE2 values, and many won't, they'll get
misidentified albums.

if they do have TPE2 values, they will have to enable TPE2 as album
artist, and totally defeat VA detection for misidentified comps.

furthermore, they will probably have to tag TPE2 values for comps as
well, to work well in other apps other than SC.

in addition, gracenote assigns TPE2 to ALL files.

these conditions aren't rare, an they all lead to problems with SC's VA
detection logic.  its not just a couple of crazies with "libraries like
mine."

erland;368468 Wrote: 
> we just feel that it will work correctly and improve the experience for
> most people.

most?  debatable.  but certainly it should be available to those who
want it, i've always said it should remain an option, but BE optional.

erland;368468 Wrote: 
> Of course, we also understand that you don't agree with this. All this
> makes this discussion pretty pointless since there is no way all
> participants are going to agree. Pretty much the same way as the
> opposite sides in a political discussion.

you harp on this a lot...  this forum is FOR exactly these issues imo. 
i heard the same stuff (from various people) before 8001 was
implemented.  frankly, no one forces you to respond or read any of it. 
now, i very much appreciate and respect your responses and you, i am
amazed by your talents, but please, the den mother act is not
applicable to this forum.


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