When I first started using Rivendell I ran it from a live Slax cd, that was 
version .9x if I can remember correctly. I now run version 2.1.1 that I 
configured from source on Ubuntu 11.04. I knew nothing about Linux before I 
started doing this. Thanx to the Rivendell forum, I am now able to (sometimes) 
help others. This truly is a very helpful group of people.

In no particular order:
thanx to James Harrison, Andy, Fred, Alban, Geoff and all others who have 
directly or indirectly helped me out.
 Keep up the good work!!!


________________________________
 From: Fred Gleason <[email protected]>
To: User discussion about the Rivendell Radio Automation System 
<[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [RDD] Having Troubles running Rivendell 2.1.0 (deb packages) on 
Ubuntu Studio 11.10 (libhpi.so.9)
 
On Dec 12, 2011, at 18:09 55, Patrick Schmalstig wrote:

> That doesn't make any sense. Rivendell according to you, 2.1.0, is not beta. 
> Another developer told me it was.

It all depends on what layer in the ecosystem you're looking at.  Most Linux 
applications (including Rivendell) are developed groups of people (commonly 
referred to as 'upstream') that are quite different from the people who do the 
packaging and support on the various distros (e.g. RedHat, SuSE, Ubuntu, etc), 
commonly referred to as 'downstream'.  The upstream folks release source code; 
it is the downstream folks who turn that into binary packages that are tuned to 
work well on a particular distro.  When you mentioned that "Rivendell" should 
have marked a version as being 'beta', you were referencing the upstream 
project, hence my comment.


> I am sorry for my attitude.

No worries, Patrick.  It *is* confusing, especially if one is coming from a 
non-FOSS background where  the application author and packager are normally one 
and the same set of people.  It doesn't help that people commonly refer to 
"Linux" as if that were a monolithic OS in the sense that particular flavors of 
Windows or OS-X are.  The fact is that Linux is a component (specifically, a 
kernel) that is used as one component of many in creating what are effectively 
many different OSes (called 'distributions').  And hence my remarks about 
integration -- just because a given application is said to "run on Linux" 
doesn't necessarily mean that it will play nice on any given distro without 
some added work.  That's where the downstream folks come in; people who have 
taken the time and trouble to make an application work on *that particular 
distribution* (read: OS) that they focus on.  These folks are every bit as 
important as the people who write the
 application code.  Many of them ha
ng out on this list; they can be a wonderful resource if you run into problems.

Cheers!


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