On Tuesday 16 September 2003 20:19, Silvan wrote:
> On Tuesday 16 September 2003 12:23 pm, Kevin Donnelly wrote:
> > > Yeah, probably.  It's the way of the future.  If you don't have such a
> > > kernel, and don't have the extra dangerous features turned on, you're a
> > > weirdo and nobody in Linux audio land will listen to anything you have
> > > to say about your troubles.
> >

Uhh, sorry for intruding, but I don't understand this - don't we at the moment 
_need_ this patched kernel for good audio and realtime-control performance?
Sure it's not nice that this is the case, but isn't this the reality right 
now? Of course, if such a thing is required to avoid said "troubles" and one 
asks for help with such troubles without having installed the required kernel 
patch, it's reasonable to expect that nobody would pay much attention, except 
suggesting that the user could patch the kernel first, before going much 
further.

> > Well, sorry to be a pain here, but if I'm just dabbling with various
> > sound apps, as opposed to using them in a studio-type setting as a pro,
> > I'm not
> >
> > If Alexandre can see some way around this, fine, but otherwise I think
> > the original musing was along the right lines.
>
> Oh, I agree with you 100%.  Moreover, the low latency and capabilities
> stuff scares the hell out of me, and I absolutely refuse to even try it.
>

Why does it scare you? Are you also running an ISP or something on this same 
machine? I really don't understand the potential danger involved in using 
such a patched kernel, unless you're worried about data loss, in which case 
you probably shouldn't be using the same machine for your audio work anyhow.

> The result of that, however, is that nobody wants to hear my cry about how
> abysmal my audio performance is.  I've found that people just pretty much
> take for granted that anyone with the slightest interest in doing audio
> work will run a patched kernel.

Well to each his own. That's a very reasonable requirement to me. Installing a 
patched kernel was pretty much the easiest step in the Linux audio learning 
curve. Took all of about five minutes, grabbing the thing from planet CCRMA.
About 1/10000 of the effort that it takes to get all the 
half-developed-not-ready-for-prime-time linux music apps running and playing 
with eachother.

I really don't understand the problem here, unless you're using your Linux 
synth box for other purposes, in which case for a few hundred bucks you could 
just get a seperate box to serve as your "PC".

Larry




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