On Thursday 02 August 2007 22:27, D. Michael McIntyre wrote:
> On Thursday 02 August 2007, Chris Cannam wrote:
> > On Thursday 02 August 2007 00:13, M. Donalies wrote:
> > > To do tablature correctly requires at least 2 MIDI channels per staff
> >
> > Ugh.  I wasn't aware of that.  I suppose it's inevitable, given that
> > MIDI pitch bend is a channel message.
> >
> > guitar idiom, especially given all the other existing notational idioms
> > that we can't play directly either.
>
> I definitely agree with you that being able to reproduce pitch bends in
> MIDI is not something over which we should consider turning the world
> upside down. There are really quite a few things in Rosegarden that only
> exist as symbols when I think about it.  Bow marks, fermatas, phrasing
> slurs, all of the LilyPond directives, legato, staccato, and probably even
> more.  It's annoying, but I feel like they more or less represent the upper
> boundary of what we can realistically accomplish.

This really sucks. I didn't realize that the sequencer was so primitive. Even 
Powertab can do those things, and it's pretty darn limited in its 
capabilities.

If it's just a matter of putting the bend on a separate track (1 voice per 
track), then it's just a matter of displaying 2 tracks on the same staff, 
which we want to do anyway. If bends in can't be reproduced at all, I don't 
see much point in having tablature in RG. Might as well just do it in 
Lilypond.

> Pitch bends could definitely and easily fall into this category, and I
> don't think we'll be interpreting strum directives, or playing the right
> sort of sound for this note played on the low E string vs. this same note
> played on the A string, for that matter.  That last one is an interesting

These 2 are far less important than bends, and the last one doesn't really 
matter at all for my purposes. Not handling legato sounds ugly, but you can 
still figure out what's going on. Not handling rolling of chords and such is 
of somewhat low importance as well. But if bends don't sound, you don't even 
have the right pitch, which is usually a pretty important thing.

Let's take a popular, but trivially easy song to play: Clapton's Wonderful 
Tonight. MIDI playback would be completely useless without bends. Now 
something like that is easy to figure out and you probably don't need MIDI 
playback to learn the song. But it's a different matter if you're trying to 
figure out how to play something like Erik Johnson's Cliffs of Dover. MIDI 
playback is a big help here.

With my own music, I definitely need the playback. I write pieces that I can't 
immediately play. I often change parts before the whole piece is completed. 
It's much easier to input it as MIDI, finish composing, and then go back and 
learn how to play it than it would be to record a myriad of slightly 
different guitar takes, throwing most of them away.

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