On 10/10/2014 03:53, David Lang wrote:
On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, Otis Gospodnetic wrote:

Hello,

We recently had a new Logsene <http://sematext.com/logsene/> user who had
some issues tailing a file with application logs and sending them to our
rsyslog.  After some digging we looked at the rsyslog version. It turned
out to be 5.x.  Ancient!  But even scarier was that this was on Ubuntu
12.04, which I still think of as relatively new!  And then I looked at
Ubuntu 14.04 and the upcoming 14.10 and it looks like they only have
7.4.4. I then looked at CentOS 7, which is really new, and that also has
7.4.x!

Aren't all of these quite old and quite different from 8.4.x?
Are there *any* semi-common/popular Linux distros that have rsyslog 8.x?

8.x came out just too late to make it into the early 2014 distros as the default

Finally, is there anything Adiscon could do or is doing to get 8.x into new
versions of some of the more popular Linux distros?

Adiscon (and others) are providing packages of the new versions that can be installed in the older distros, there are PPA repositories for Ubuntu.

The problem is that distros are always going to lag behind current development, and the faster the pace of development, the more they will lag. Part of the problem is the delay from when versions are selected and the time that the distro is released.

In case of Logsene, if we see people having trouble with rsyslog simply
because their distros have very old versions of rsyslog, we may simply have to recommend Logstash, because when we recommend that we can be pretty sure people will either have or will get one of the more recent versions.... and
this is probably much easier to install because, I assume, manually
updating rsyslog is tricky because of dependencies, packages, etc.

If you look at the versions of logstash that are in the distros, you will see that they are as old as the versions of rsyslog.

But you are assuming incorrectly that there is a huge dependency problem installing a new rsyslog package. I would suggest that you try it and see how easy it is.
well, I use 8.4.x version on CentOS 6 and I didn't have problem with dependency. I found everything that I had to have. I think they were in EPEL or in rsyslog repo.
anyway, there are rsyslog repos on rsyslog project site.

I was wondering if there is anything that could be done about this from
rsyslog or Adiscon side?

Only the distro maintainers can update the versions that are included in the distros. I don't know why they stuck with 5.x for so long (they basically ignored 6.x and didn't start including 7.x until 8.x was already out). There isn't much that Adiscon or the Rsyslog developers can do.

Seriously, try updating from the Adiscon repositories/PPA, it's really easy.

David Lang
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