I am not a packaging person... Does the install rsyslog also take care of its dependencies? If so, the install is for sure better advise.
Rainer Sent from phone, thus brief. Am 20.10.2014 20:18 schrieb "Otis Gospodnetic" <[email protected]>: > Hello, > > Btw. here is some feedback from one of the Logsene users regarding rsyslog > update instructions: > > just a small feedback on http://www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-repository/ doc > > Step 3 is "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" > Monday, October 20 2014 9:21 AM > I guess that it is not a good advice to tell people to run sudo apt-get > upgrade > They are installing rsyslog and doesn't expect their server to update other > components > as Cassandra in my case > Monday, October 20 2014 9:22 AM > I took care of it but you might trip someone who would not take care > Monday, October 20 2014 9:25 AM > Yeah, no problem, we'll point it out to rsyslog people, although they are > hard-core so I'm pretty sure this is not a mistake and there is a reason > they wrote that > Monday, October 20 2014 9:37 AM > It looks pretty dangerous and useless to me. An update followed by a > install rsyslog are just fine and a lot safer imho. > > > > I hope this helps. > > Otis > -- > Monitoring * Alerting * Anomaly Detection * Centralized Log Management > Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/ > > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:53 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > > > > Hello, > >> > >> We recently had a new Logsene <http://sematext.com/logsene/> user who > had > >> some issues tailing a file with application logs and sending them to our > >> rsyslog. After some digging we looked at the rsyslog version. It > turned > >> out to be 5.x. Ancient! But even scarier was that this was on Ubuntu > >> 12.04, which I still think of as relatively new! And then I looked at > >> Ubuntu 14.04 and the upcoming 14.10 and it looks like they only have > >> 7.4.4. I then looked at CentOS 7, which is really new, and that also > has > >> 7.4.x! > >> > >> Aren't all of these quite old and quite different from 8.4.x? > >> Are there *any* semi-common/popular Linux distros that have rsyslog 8.x? > >> > > > > 8.x came out just too late to make it into the early 2014 distros as the > > default > > > > Finally, is there anything Adiscon could do or is doing to get 8.x into > >> new > >> versions of some of the more popular Linux distros? > >> > > > > Adiscon (and others) are providing packages of the new versions that can > > be installed in the older distros, there are PPA repositories for Ubuntu. > > > > The problem is that distros are always going to lag behind current > > development, and the faster the pace of development, the more they will > > lag. Part of the problem is the delay from when versions are selected and > > the time that the distro is released. > > > > In case of Logsene, if we see people having trouble with rsyslog simply > >> because their distros have very old versions of rsyslog, we may simply > >> have > >> to recommend Logstash, because when we recommend that we can be pretty > >> sure > >> people will either have or will get one of the more recent versions.... > >> and > >> this is probably much easier to install because, I assume, manually > >> updating rsyslog is tricky because of dependencies, packages, etc. > >> > > > > If you look at the versions of logstash that are in the distros, you will > > see that they are as old as the versions of rsyslog. > > > > But you are assuming incorrectly that there is a huge dependency problem > > installing a new rsyslog package. I would suggest that you try it and see > > how easy it is. > > > > I was wondering if there is anything that could be done about this from > >> rsyslog or Adiscon side? > >> > > > > Only the distro maintainers can update the versions that are included in > > the distros. I don't know why they stuck with 5.x for so long (they > > basically ignored 6.x and didn't start including 7.x until 8.x was > already > > out). There isn't much that Adiscon or the Rsyslog developers can do. > > > > Seriously, try updating from the Adiscon repositories/PPA, it's really > > easy. > > > > David Lang > > > > _______________________________________________ > > rsyslog mailing list > > http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > > http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > > What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards > > NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad > > of sites beyond our control. 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