Hello, Btw. here is some feedback from one of the Logsene users regarding rsyslog update instructions:
just a small feedback on http://www.rsyslog.com/ubuntu-repository/ doc Step 3 is "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" Monday, October 20 2014 9:21 AM I guess that it is not a good advice to tell people to run sudo apt-get upgrade They are installing rsyslog and doesn't expect their server to update other components as Cassandra in my case Monday, October 20 2014 9:22 AM I took care of it but you might trip someone who would not take care Monday, October 20 2014 9:25 AM Yeah, no problem, we'll point it out to rsyslog people, although they are hard-core so I'm pretty sure this is not a mistake and there is a reason they wrote that Monday, October 20 2014 9:37 AM It looks pretty dangerous and useless to me. An update followed by a install rsyslog are just fine and a lot safer imho. I hope this helps. Otis -- Monitoring * Alerting * Anomaly Detection * Centralized Log Management Solr & Elasticsearch Support * http://sematext.com/ On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 10:53 PM, David Lang <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: > > Hello, >> >> We recently had a new Logsene <http://sematext.com/logsene/> user who had >> some issues tailing a file with application logs and sending them to our >> rsyslog. After some digging we looked at the rsyslog version. It turned >> out to be 5.x. Ancient! But even scarier was that this was on Ubuntu >> 12.04, which I still think of as relatively new! And then I looked at >> Ubuntu 14.04 and the upcoming 14.10 and it looks like they only have >> 7.4.4. I then looked at CentOS 7, which is really new, and that also has >> 7.4.x! >> >> Aren't all of these quite old and quite different from 8.4.x? >> Are there *any* semi-common/popular Linux distros that have rsyslog 8.x? >> > > 8.x came out just too late to make it into the early 2014 distros as the > default > > Finally, is there anything Adiscon could do or is doing to get 8.x into >> new >> versions of some of the more popular Linux distros? >> > > Adiscon (and others) are providing packages of the new versions that can > be installed in the older distros, there are PPA repositories for Ubuntu. > > The problem is that distros are always going to lag behind current > development, and the faster the pace of development, the more they will > lag. Part of the problem is the delay from when versions are selected and > the time that the distro is released. > > In case of Logsene, if we see people having trouble with rsyslog simply >> because their distros have very old versions of rsyslog, we may simply >> have >> to recommend Logstash, because when we recommend that we can be pretty >> sure >> people will either have or will get one of the more recent versions.... >> and >> this is probably much easier to install because, I assume, manually >> updating rsyslog is tricky because of dependencies, packages, etc. >> > > If you look at the versions of logstash that are in the distros, you will > see that they are as old as the versions of rsyslog. > > But you are assuming incorrectly that there is a huge dependency problem > installing a new rsyslog package. I would suggest that you try it and see > how easy it is. > > I was wondering if there is anything that could be done about this from >> rsyslog or Adiscon side? >> > > Only the distro maintainers can update the versions that are included in > the distros. I don't know why they stuck with 5.x for so long (they > basically ignored 6.x and didn't start including 7.x until 8.x was already > out). There isn't much that Adiscon or the Rsyslog developers can do. > > Seriously, try updating from the Adiscon repositories/PPA, it's really > easy. > > David Lang > > _______________________________________________ > rsyslog mailing list > http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog > http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ > What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards > NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad > of sites beyond our control. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE and DO NOT POST if you > DON'T LIKE THAT. > _______________________________________________ rsyslog mailing list http://lists.adiscon.net/mailman/listinfo/rsyslog http://www.rsyslog.com/professional-services/ What's up with rsyslog? Follow https://twitter.com/rgerhards NOTE WELL: This is a PUBLIC mailing list, posts are ARCHIVED by a myriad of sites beyond our control. PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE and DO NOT POST if you DON'T LIKE THAT.
