This misses the point, all real passenger cars are whatever their 
prototype length is – period!

Those with the idea of an association of S scale need only review a 
few recent posts to understand the challenge.  Passenger cars over 
10% too short are somehow just fine for S scale.  Close enough is 
good enough.  I wonder if SHS or DPH or Jim King made a 40' PS-1 box 
car that was only 36' long what the reaction would be…?  Model 
railroaders outside S scale look at that and it only re-affirms 
their `joined at the hip' with AF perception.  Sooner or later we 
just have to accept that as reality and get on with life!

Understand clearly that I am not bashing the AM Budd cars.  They 
were built for the hirail community and to negotiate AF curves; they 
do that very well – mission accomplished.  Only saying that 
personally, when I look to buy or build an NYC (or PRR or AT&SF or 
CRI&P…) passenger car that was 80+ feet long, well..., I expect it 
to be 80+ feet long.

Jim K.

P.S.  Someone mentioned Santa Fe Budd coaches at 72'.  I searched my 
AT&SF Budd library and can't find any AT&SF pre-war or post war Budd 
coaches that were less than 79 feet in coupled length.  Only cars 
that were less were RPO's and baggage.  What am I missing??




--- In [email protected], Talmadge C 'TC' Carr 
<group_l...@...> wrote:
>
> My olllldddd sore is the song and dance that ALL REAL PSNGR CARS 
ARE 85 FOOT LONG.  NOT TRUE!!!
> Sorry for yelling but <snip>



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