Actually, the sideframes result in this being an S-4, since they are AAR 
switcher sideframes, yet that is not exactly right, either, as the hood louvres 
represent the pre-war kind found on early S-2's only (and the horizontal ones 
during some of the WWII era S-2's are presumably unavailable in S scale unless 
they were included with the Overland imports, as they did in O scale).

>From the discussion when I raised the question six or eight months ago (having 
>just bought a nearly-complete locomotive), likely the problem is first, the 
>lost-wax sideframes were produced for a replacement drive for the American 
>Flyer Baldwin (I think someone said by Glacier Models) and are no longer 
>available; second, although Kemtron bought out the Lindsey line, I am not at 
>all sure PSC has continued to offer most of it since they took over Kemtron 
>years ago.

I agree with Bob that it would have been no trouble to configure the gear tower 
to fit inside the hood, leaving the cab interior free for detailing if the 
owner wished.  I have more of a problem with the poor design of the tower 
itself, where the delrin gears are spaced so that there is too much lash in the 
chain; if I should find myself with unaccounted-for time I am considering 
replacing or at least relocating the heavy sheet brass vertical member in the 
tower to improve both that and to swap the drive end-for-end.  Turning the 
motor and resoldering the leads would also permit a flywheel on the 
unencumbered shaft.

On the other hand, unless one must actually have an Alco switcher (and not pay 
the premium for an Overland brass import), for what the Miller and drive are 
likely to go for, several S Helper EMD's have recently gone for very little 
more (and Don's sale back at the end of June
not much more yet--which is why I succumbed and bought two I didn't 
particularly need), and their drive is state-of-the-art.

Jace Kahn

General Manager 
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.








> Those gear boxes were designed by Bob Lindsey (bought LATER by Kemtron). Bob 
> developed them, then patented the design from the ORIGINAL design created by 
> Herald Durflinger and a machinist friend in Columbus Ohio. Herald was my 
> best friend in those Columbus days. I recall all their parts and legal 
> discussions.
> I do not know why someone does not start. production again. I paid Cascade 
> for a set.  Still waiting.
> John Armstrong

> > It appears that the conversion kit shown for sale on Ebay was the one sold
> > by Jon Beveridge/Cascade Hobbies back in the 70's.  I actually have one 
> > that
> > I have yet to assemble.  The gearboxes are actually Kemtron and not
> > NWSL.  Beveridge used Kemtron gear boxes in virtually all of his drive
> > kits. The wheelsets may have been NWSL, but I can't say for sure.  I 
> > imagine
> > that the final product would be a relative smooth runner as most of
> > Beveridge's power assemblies ran well especially with the Sagami motor.
> > What I didn't like about this particular design was that the gear tower
> > (actually a delrin chain drive) is installed in the cab area of the S-2.
> > Because the the large cab windows it's quite visible and difficult to 
> > hide.
> >
> > There is a considerable number of Miller frame/body unpowered kits out 
> > there
> > because "S"cenery Unlimited offered them that way for years.  So finding 
> > the
> > frame/body combination wouldn't be difficult. Rather than using the
> > Beveridge repowering kit I would recommend getting with Jim King and 
> > having
> > him adapt on of his H10-44 drives to fit the Miller frame.  The trucks 
> > would
> > be right for the S-4 version.  If you're looking to do the S-2, somebody
> > (Steam Depot maybe) made brass Blunt side frames though they may be
> > difficult to find.
> > Bob Frascella

> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I need an Alco S1 for the short line I am modeling. I noticed there is 
> >> one
> >> for sale with NWSL replacement trucks and Sagami motor. Was wondering if
> >> anyone has had any experience with this combination. Thanks...

                                          

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