Gary: Another fun one was doing a walking inspection in the fog, or any other time when visibility was limited while you train was stopped. You had to know what to do if you found a problem that required that the train not move.
Bob Nicholson ___________________________________ --- In [email protected], pr...@... wrote: > > Bob,Ah,the good old days working with the air. We usually didn't have a > back up hose so when the hogger stopped he'd gives us some slack,pull ahead > like you said,and then we would open the angle cock till we got everything > lined up,give the air back and he'd know to back up.Like you said nothing > beats experience and knowing your territory. > > 8 & sand > > Gary Carmichael > > > In a message dated 11/13/2010 5:30:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > user141...@... writes: > > > > > It gets better as it goes on, Jim. I remember old heads telling me how they > set out 40 and 50 car blocks of cars in the fog. The engineer would know > where to stop based on landmarks, give the brakeman time to uncouple, then > pull ahead the correct distance, give the brakeman time to line the > switch(es) then shove into the set out track. > > If the brakeman wasn't ready for the engineer to move at any time, he knew > how to take preventive measures in a way the engineer would know there was > something amiss, and not move until he knew it was safe to do so, all the > time completely out of sight of the brakeman until he shoved the cars into > the set out track. > > It was a dangerous time, and not the place for inexperienced people, but > railroaders met these and other challenges and succeeded in overcoming them > on a daily basis. That's one reason I would have just about given up my > manhood just to have David P. Morgan and John Kneiling braking for me for a > week on the sixteen-hour-a-day local I was assigned to as a new conductor in > 1970. > > Bob Nicholson __________________________________________ > > --- In [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , Jim and > Cheryl Martin <farnhamhouse@> wrote: > > > > Bob and Andre: > > > > I was being facetious of course, but in the end came out learning > something. > > Wonder how many factoids I could pick up if I took things more seriously? > > > > Cheers' > > Jim > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: shabbona_rr <user141771@> > > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 3:28:09 PM > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF > > > > > > No, that's where proper training comes in. An experienced railroader > knew where > > he was. Inexperienced railroaders learned by watching how they did it. > That's > > why it took at least four years of working experience before a trainman > could > > take promotion to conductor, and an engineer (at least on Southern > Pacific) > > needed eight years - just to be a yard engineer. > > > > Two weeks of book and computer training by smart alecky chalk-twirling > college > > boy instructors just don't cut it - especially today! > > > > How do you think we ran in the fog? > > > > Bob Nicholson ________________________________________ > > > > --- In [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , Jim > and Cheryl Martin <farnhamhouse@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm curious so maybe the professional railroaders can help me out > here. If you > > > > > > get distracted and lose count of the poles, do you have to back the > train up > > >and > > > > > > start over? > > > > > > Just wondering > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Andre Ming <laming@> > > > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > Sent: Sat, November 13, 2010 10:36:52 AM > > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF > > > > > > > > > We still use pole count on the A&M. 40 per mile. > > > > > > Of course, most of the original telegraph poles are long gone, so we > have > > > miles marked in 10 pole increments to help orient slow orders/etc. All > this > > > week, I had slow orders that basically read: > > > > > > 10 MPH at: > > > > > > MP. 417 plus 17 poles to 23 poles > > > MP. 418 plus 13 poles > > > MP. 420 plus 8 poles. > > > > > > Andre Ming > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "shabbona_rr" <user141771@> > > > To: <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 8:35 AM > > > Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} FNF > > > > > > > On Santa Fe, the nation's premier railroad, we figured 40 poles to > the > > > > mile. Slow orders were based on poles (not pole length spacing) to > locate > > > > affected track, for instance, "3 Poles West of MP205 to 4 Poles west > of MP > > > > 206." > > > > > > > > Once a BN conductor was ridiculing me because they used feet instead > of > > > > pole lengths. I asked him which he'd rather count from the train, > poles or > > > > feet > > > > > > > > Bob Nicholson ________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) , > prorr@ wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Peter, Nice job, they look very relistic.If my memory serves me > > > >> correctly,they were spaced about 80' apart. I can remember old head > > > >> engineers using > > > >> them to calculate train length. Of course back then most cars were > 40 > > > >> footers and every pole was 2 car lengths.They may have been 120' > foot > > > >> apart but > > > >> I'm thinking 80' is right. > > > >> > > > >> Gary Carmichael > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> In a message dated 11/13/2010 9:00:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > > >> pavanvliet@ writes: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> This week I finished installing 9 scratchbuilt telephone/telegraph > poles > > > >> on part of the layout that is already in the scenery stage. 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