I can certainly agree that changing anything like a name, logo, mission 
statement-- whatever is a large task.  I've been involved with several 
corporate change-outs.  Certainly the NMRA with all it's volunteers 
hasn't changed it's name to the International Model Railroader's 
Assoc.--even though it probably should.

And certainly, if you're a guy who seldom ventures from the workbench, 
garage or basement--you'll wonder what the fuss is all about.  If your a 
guy who seldom has guys from other scales come to visit--likewise.  I 
remember the gentlemen who complained that he paid his $3 for his 
lifetime membership that wasn't being honored.  However, times and 
things change whether we want them to or not.  Many groups and companies 
decide not to change and some slowly dissolve (Gilbert for example) 
while others seem to endure.  Nobody knows until it happens.  Take for 
example Ted Larson's former employer--Eastman Kodak.  Hardly anybody 
knows that they invented digital imaging, yet it's also the thing that 
is killing them.  They have been known in the business to have shot 
themselves in both feet many times over and now don't have a leg to 
stand on.  They IMHO didn't make a new path for such a radical change.  
And that's all I was suggesting.  Our whole hobby is changing (from 
wooden sticks to DCC sound equipped with road-name specific details 
including weathering)--I'm just trying help with the perception of our 
scale by others.  What Monte or I think is really not that important, 
it's what other perceive us to be--they're the ones asking questions at 
the train shows, they're the ones who will ask Tom Hawley, Don Thompson, 
or Jeff Wilson the questions at the dealers table.

I will now suit up my flak jacket, my WWI gas mask and head for the 
bunker!  And yes this discussion has gone on long enough, but I've hoped 
that some thought to the future might have happened.

Bob Werre




On 11/17/11 1:42 PM, Tom Hawley wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lamont Heppe
> Also, as Dick Karnes recently pointed out, NASG was created by scale
> modelers not hi railers or AF guys and I have to assume they selected the
> name.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> ----------Response-----------
> That's what I tried to say recently. I agree with the sentiment in the
> above, but it needs a little technical correction, if I'm not mistaken.
>
> Some of those old timers (peace be upon them) I believe did use
> AF-compatible track & wheel standards. But they were modellers. They took
> whatever would work, frequently AF equipment, added & removed detail, and
> modified it into cars, locos, &c, that more closely represented real RR
> prototypes. This is real the dividing line in our Association - those who
> try to model what they know of real RRs (irrespective of track & wheel
> standards) - versus those who just want to accumulate a lot of a certain
> quasi-defunct brand of toy train.
>
> Tom Hawley -- Lansing Mich
>
> 



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