On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 3:32 PM Trevor Karn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I uninstalled and reinstalled homebrew and that got rid of the brew doctor 
> warnings. I then brewed the suggested packages from the Sage link Zachary 
> provided and the packages listed at the end of the output of configure.
>
> Then from SAGE_ROOT I ran
>
> make distclean
> source .homebrew-build-env
> ./bootstrap -d
> ./configure
> make -j4 build
>
> In the end this seems to be working. Thank you so much Dima and Zachary for 
> your help.
>
> The reason for running ./bootstrap with the -d flag was because that is what 
> an error message told me to do. Without -d flag:
>
> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air sage % source .homebrew-build-env
>
> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air sage % ./bootstrap
>
> rm -rf config configure build/make/Makefile-auto.in
>
> rm -f src/doc/en/installation/*.txt
>
> rm -rf src/doc/en/reference/spkg/*.rst
>
> rm -f src/doc/en/reference/repl/*.txt
>
> rm -f environment.yml
>
> rm -f src/environment.yml
>
> rm -f environment-optional.yml
>
> rm -f src/environment-optional.yml
>
> src/doc/bootstrap:92: installing src/doc/en/installation/arch.txt and 
> src/doc/en/installation/arch-optional.txt
>
> src/doc/bootstrap:92: installing src/doc/en/installation/debian.txt and 
> src/doc/en/installation/debian-optional.txt
>
> src/doc/bootstrap:92: installing src/doc/en/installation/fedora.txt and 
> src/doc/en/installation/fedora-optional.txt
>
> src/doc/bootstrap:92: installing src/doc/en/installation/cygwin.txt and 
> src/doc/en/installation/cygwin-optional.txt
>
> src/doc/bootstrap:92: installing src/doc/en/installation/homebrew.txt and 
> src/doc/en/installation/homebrew-optional.txt
>
> src/doc/bootstrap:66: installing environment.yml, environment-optional.yml, 
> src/environment.yml and src/environment-optional.yml
>
> src/doc/bootstrap:103: installing src/doc/en/reference/spkg/*.rst
>
> src/doc/bootstrap:182: installing src/doc/en/reference/repl/options.txt
>
> bootstrap:73: installing 'config/config.rpath'
>
> ./bootstrap: line 118: aclocal: command not found
>
> Bootstrap failed. Either install autotools or run bootstrap with
>
> the -d option to download the auto-generated files instead.

build/pkgs/_bootstrap/distros/homebrew.txt

contains a list of dev packages recommended for Homebrew.
(and with these installed, ./bootstrap should complete without errors)

I wonder whether any of these are printed at the end of the ./configure run.


>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Trevor Karn
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 4:06 AM Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 4:07 AM Zachary Scherr <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I need to sign off for the night, but the numpy error is definitely 
>> > related to gfortran.  If you have gcc installed via homebrew then it 
>> > should come with the latest version of gfortran.  You can see from your 
>> > config.log file that gfortran is not found:
>> >
>> > configure:7281: checking for gfortran
>> > configure:7311: result: no
>> >
>> > and other standard homebrew packages are not found, like openblas:
>> >
>> > configure:12171: checking BLAS library
>> > configure:12190: result: openblas
>> > configure:12239: checking whether any of gfortran is installed as or will 
>> > be installed as SPKG
>> > configure:12243: result: yes; install openblas as well
>> > configure:13540: no suitable system package found for SPKG openblas
>> >
>> > are you aware if you have gcc and openblas installed via homebrew? I also 
>> > see that you didn't run "source .homebrew-build-env" before running 
>> > ./configure since I don't see certain items on your path.  If you go to 
>> > the sage installation guide at 
>> > https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/source.html#macos-recommended-installation
>> >  you can see a list of homebrew packages you might want to have before 
>> > installing sage.  I think if you get everything in working order with 
>> > homebrew then you shouldn't have any issues installing sage.  Here is my 
>> > best suggestion as to what to try:
>> >
>> > - fix all "brew doctor" warnings.  This might not be necessary, but I get 
>> > worried when I see so many warnings.  You can probably just delete all the 
>> > suggested files and you should be fine.
>> >
>> > - install all the recommended homebrew packages.  If any are already 
>> > installed then maybe try "brew reinstall" to make sure it is installed 
>> > properly.  If you think you have homebrew gcc installed then you should be 
>> > able to do "which gfortran" and "gfortran --version".  That should 
>> > hopefully show you that you have gfortran 10.2.0_3.
>> >
>> > - in your sage folder under the develop branch you should run the commands 
>> > I mentioned, and don't skip out on "source .homebrew-build-env":
>> >
>> > >> make distclean
>> > >> ./bootstrap
>> > >> source .homebrew-build-env
>> > >> ./configure
>> >
>> > Before running "make -j4 build" you can look at config.log and make sure 
>> > that it picked up all of the relevant homebrew packages.
>> >
>> >
>> source .homebrew-build-env
>>
>> should be run before ./bootstrap
>>
>>
>> as well, ./confugure at the end of its run outputs an advice on
>> packages that can still be installed.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 10:52:43 PM UTC-5 Trevor Karn wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Here is the new one. Thanks so much for all of your help on this, Zachary.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Trevor Karn
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:40 PM Zachary Scherr <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> At some point you should deal with those warnings, but I don't think 
>> >>> that is what is causing your problems (although they are probably 
>> >>> symptomatic of other possible issues).
>> >>>
>> >>> The config.log file you posted earlier is picking up a lot of packages 
>> >>> that were built by sage and not from homebrew.  Do you have the 
>> >>> config.log file that you got after running make distclean?
>> >>>
>> >>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 10:10:01 PM UTC-5 Trevor Karn wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> brew doctor is giving lots of errors about unbrewed files:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air sage % brew doctor
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Please note that these warnings are just used to help the Homebrew 
>> >>>> maintainers
>> >>>>
>> >>>> with debugging if you file an issue. If everything you use Homebrew for 
>> >>>> is
>> >>>>
>> >>>> working fine: please don't worry or file an issue; just ignore this. 
>> >>>> Thanks!
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warning: Unbrewed dylibs were found in /usr/local/lib.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you didn't put them there on purpose they could cause problems when
>> >>>>
>> >>>> building Homebrew formulae, and may need to be deleted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Unexpected dylibs:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/lib/libtcl8.6.dylib
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/lib/libtk8.6.dylib
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warning: Unbrewed header files were found in /usr/local/include.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you didn't put them there on purpose they could cause problems when
>> >>>>
>> >>>> building Homebrew formulae, and may need to be deleted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Unexpected header files:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/fakemysql.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/fakepq.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/fakesql.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/itcl.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/itcl2TclOO.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/itclDecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/itclInt.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/itclIntDecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/itclMigrate2TclCore.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/itclTclIntStubsFcn.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/mysqlStubs.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/odbcStubs.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/pqStubs.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tcl.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tclDecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tclOO.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tclOODecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tclPlatDecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tclThread.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tclTomMath.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tclTomMathDecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tdbc.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tdbcDecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tdbcInt.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tk.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tkDecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/include/tkPlatDecls.h
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warning: Unbrewed '.pc' files were found in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you didn't put them there on purpose they could cause problems when
>> >>>>
>> >>>> building Homebrew formulae, and may need to be deleted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Unexpected '.pc' files:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/tcl.pc
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/tk.pc
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warning: Unbrewed static libraries were found in /usr/local/lib.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you didn't put them there on purpose they could cause problems when
>> >>>>
>> >>>> building Homebrew formulae, and may need to be deleted.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Unexpected static libraries:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/lib/libtclstub8.6.a
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/lib/libtkstub8.6.a
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warning: You have unlinked kegs in your Cellar.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Leaving kegs unlinked can lead to build-trouble and cause formulae that 
>> >>>> depend on
>> >>>>
>> >>>> those kegs to fail to run properly once built. Run `brew link` on these:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   ffmpeg
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   ghostscript
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warning: Homebrew's "sbin" was not found in your PATH but you have 
>> >>>> installed
>> >>>>
>> >>>> formulae that put executables in /usr/local/sbin.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Consider setting your PATH for example like so:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   echo 'export PATH="/usr/local/sbin:$PATH"' >> ~/.zshrc
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Warning: Broken symlinks were found. Remove them with `brew cleanup`:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/bin/git-trac
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/ghostscript/9.27/Resource/Font/wasy10.pfb
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/ghostscript/9.27/Resource/Font/wasy5.pfb
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/ghostscript/9.27/Resource/Font/wasy6.pfb
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/ghostscript/9.27/Resource/Font/wasy7.pfb
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/ghostscript/9.27/Resource/Font/wasy8.pfb
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/ghostscript/9.27/Resource/Font/wasy9.pfb
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/ghostscript/9.27/Resource/Font/wasyb10.pfb
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/man/man1/brew-cask.1
>> >>>>
>> >>>>   /usr/local/share/zsh/site-functions/_brew_cask
>> >>>>
>> >>>> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air sage % brew cleanup
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/gettext/0.20.1... (1,899 files, 18.5MB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/gmp/6.1.2_2... (18 files, 3.1MB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/gnutls/3.6.9... (1,227 files, 9.9MB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/icu4c/64.2... (257 files, 69.2MB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/libevent/2.1.11... (1,063 files, 5MB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/libffi/3.2.1... (16 files, 296.8KB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/libidn2/2.2.0_1... (70 files, 700.9KB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/libtasn1/4.14... (59 files, 384KB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Removing: /usr/local/Cellar/nettle/3.4.1... (85 files, 2MB)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Error: Interrupted system call @ dir_initialize - /usr/local/Cellar/opus
>> >>>>
>> >>>> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air sage % ;2D
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best Regards,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Trevor Karn
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 8:38 PM Zachary Scherr <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> In your original config.log, it looked like sage was picking up its 
>> >>>>> own fortran:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> configure:11991: gfortran has already been installed by SageMath
>> >>>>> configure:39396: result: gfortran-9.2.0:                              
>> >>>>> already installed as an SPKG
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The current version of gfortran from homebrew is 10.2.0 version 3
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> GNU Fortran (Homebrew GCC 10.2.0_3) 10.2.0
>> >>>>> Copyright (C) 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>> >>>>> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There 
>> >>>>> is NO
>> >>>>> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR 
>> >>>>> PURPOSE.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ./configure should be picking up homebrew's gfortran (installed with 
>> >>>>> gcc), and it seems from your config.log file that you do have homebrew 
>> >>>>> and therefore you should have the most recent gfortran.
>> >>>>> Do you have the newest config.log file from after running make 
>> >>>>> distclean? You may also want to try running
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> brew doctor
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> to see if there is something wrong with your homebrew.
>> >>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 9:27:11 PM UTC-5 Trevor Karn wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, that did not seem to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Here are the last few lines of the terminal output and I've attached 
>> >>>>>> the numpy log.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [singular-4.1.1p2.p0] real 28m38.843s
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [singular-4.1.1p2.p0] user 24m18.545s
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [singular-4.1.1p2.p0] sys 3m53.423s
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [singular-4.1.1p2.p0] Copying package files from temporary location 
>> >>>>>> /Users/trevorkarn/Applications/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/singular-4.1.1p2.p0/inst
>> >>>>>>  to /Users/trevorkarn/Applications/sage/local
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [singular-4.1.1p2.p0] Successfully installed singular-4.1.1p2.p0
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [singular-4.1.1p2.p0] Deleting temporary build directory
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [singular-4.1.1p2.p0] 
>> >>>>>> /Users/trevorkarn/Applications/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/singular-4.1.1p2.p0
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [singular-4.1.1p2.p0] Finished installing singular-4.1.1p2.p0
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> make[2]: *** [all-build] Error 2
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> real 182m14.796s
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> user 355m33.883s
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> sys 72m32.388s
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> ***************************************************************
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Error building Sage.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> The following package(s) may have failed to build (not necessarily
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> during this run of 'make all-build'):
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> * package:         numpy-1.19.4
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>   last build time: Feb 8 19:48
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>   log file:        
>> >>>>>> /Users/trevorkarn/Applications/sage/logs/pkgs/numpy-1.19.4.log
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>   build directory: 
>> >>>>>> /Users/trevorkarn/Applications/sage/local/var/tmp/sage/build/numpy-1.19.4
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> It is safe to delete any log files and build directories, but they
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> contain information that is helpful for debugging build problems.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> WARNING: If you now run 'make' again, the build directory of the
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> same version of the package will, by default, be deleted. Set the
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> environment variable SAGE_KEEP_BUILT_SPKGS=yes to prevent this.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> make[1]: *** [all-build] Error 1
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> make: *** [build] Error 2
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air sage %
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Best Regards,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Trevor Karn
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 1:56 PM Zachary Scherr <[email protected]> 
>> >>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> yea, something seems messed up.  For example, the numpy problem was 
>> >>>>>>> fixed on beta 6 and should still be fixed in beta 7.  It looks like 
>> >>>>>>> somehow you have old files hanging around which are causing 
>> >>>>>>> problems.  Hopefully make distclean will clean everything and let 
>> >>>>>>> you start fresh.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 2:25:16 PM UTC-5 Trevor Karn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> I must have typed it wrong. The second option you gave failed on 
>> >>>>>>>> numpy, but I tried the first option again, and it is compiling.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Trevor Karn
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 11:31 AM Zachary Scherr <[email protected]> 
>> >>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Are you sure you typed it correctly? Maybe try running
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> ./bootstrap
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> to make sure that the make targets are in order.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 12:27:01 PM UTC-5 Trevor Karn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> I tried make distclean and got an error “make: *** No rule to 
>> >>>>>>>>>> make target ‘distclean’. Stop.”
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> So I tried your second suggestion and it seems to be working so 
>> >>>>>>>>>> far, but it is still compiling.
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 10:29 AM Zachary Scherr <[email protected]> 
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Probably the thing to try would be:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> make distclean
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> and then you can build from scratch via:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ./bootstrap
>> >>>>>>>>>>> source .homebrew-build-env
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ./configure
>> >>>>>>>>>>> make -j4 build
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> But if you want to try cleaning wheel first before starting from 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> scratch, you could just try
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> make wheel-clean
>> >>>>>>>>>>> make -j4 build
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> but it might be better to clean everything and start from 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> scratch.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 10:59:05 AM UTC-5 Trevor Karn 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I do not see pep425tags.py in that directory.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air sage % cd 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/trevorkarn/Applications/sage/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/wheel/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air wheel % ls
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> __init__.py __pycache__ cli metadata.py util.py wheelfile.py
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> __main__.py bdist_wheel.py macosx_libfile.py pkginfo.py vendored
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to clean the build environment?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Trevor Karn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:54 AM Dima Pasechnik 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the only explanation for pep425tags.py would be an unclean 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> environment - e.g. weird env vars set, or strange stuff in 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> PATH.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 3:51 PM Zachary Scherr 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > and do you see that pep425tags.py file in that directory?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 10:21:09 AM UTC-5 Trevor Karn 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> The only contents of the file you pointed me towards are
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> __version__ = '0.36.2'
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Best Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Trevor Karn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:09 AM Zachary Scherr 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> I really don't understand.  The Cython log file shows that 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> the problem is in
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> /Users/trevorkarn/Applications/sage/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/wheel/pep425tags.py
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> I could be mistaken, but I don't think pep425tags.py has 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> been a part of the wheel package for a while now.  
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Certainly when I looked at wheel on my sage there was no 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> such file.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Can you go to your 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> "/Users/trevorkarn/Applications/sage/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages/wheel/"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>  directory and take a look at __init__.py.  Does the 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> version say 0.36.2?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> On Monday, February 8, 2021 at 9:32:20 AM UTC-5 Trevor 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> Karn wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Here is what I get. It seems like it is the same as yours?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> trevorkarn@Trevors-MacBook-Air sage % brew info python3
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> [email protected]: stable 3.9.1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> language
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://www.python.org/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> /usr/local/Cellar/[email protected]/3.9.1_8 (8,665 files, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> 129.4MB) *
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>   Built from source on 2021-02-05 at 16:39:31
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> From: 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/blob/HEAD/Formula/[email protected]
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> License: Python-2.0
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ==> Dependencies
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Build: pkg-config ✔
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Required: gdbm ✔, [email protected] ✔, readline ✔, sqlite ✔, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> tcl-tk ✔, xz ✔
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ==> Caveats
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Python has been installed as
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>   /usr/local/bin/python3
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Unversioned symlinks `python`, `python-config`, `pip` 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> etc. pointing to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> `python3`, `python3-config`, `pip3` etc., respectively, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> have been installed into
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>   /usr/local/opt/[email protected]/libexec/bin
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> You can install Python packages with
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>   pip3 install <package>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> They will install into the site-package directory
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>   /usr/local/lib/python3.9/site-packages
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> See: https://docs.brew.sh/Homebrew-and-Python
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ==> Analytics
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> install: 755,419 (30 days), 2,396,024 (90 days), 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> 2,995,387 (365 days)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> install-on-request: 244,063 (30 days), 714,665 (90 days), 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> 799,812 (365 days)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> build-error: 0 (30 days)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Best Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Trevor Karn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 8:17 AM Dima Pasechnik 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Could it be that you need to update your Homebrew (?) 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> python3 package?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> What version do you have now?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> E.g. on a box where the latest Sage builds I have
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> % brew info python3
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> [email protected]: stable 3.9.1 (bottled)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> Interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> language
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://www.python.org/
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> /usr/local/Cellar/[email protected]/3.9.1_8 (4,057 files, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> 67.8MB) *
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>   Poured from bottle on 2021-02-06 at 10:13:24
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> From: 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/blob/HEAD/Formula/[email protected]
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 1:53 PM Trevor Karn 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Ah I see, thanks for explaining.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Here is my top-level config.log.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Best Regards,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > Trevor Karn
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 7:09 AM Dima Pasechnik 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> On Mon, 8 Feb 2021, 13:02 Trevor Karn, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> Thanks for sending that link. I am confused though, 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> because it says a fix was issued. Does that mean it 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> should work now?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> sorry, I was not clear. What I meant to say that it 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> appears to be a well-known issue in the Python@macOS 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> universe,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> and lately all seems to be OK with Sage.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> To figure out exactly goes wrong in your case, we 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> need to know where Python3 used in Sage is coming 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> from.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >> Please post the top-level config.log
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> And yes, I am on the most recent develop branch
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 5:42 AM Dima Pasechnik 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> This seems to be well-known issue, see e.g
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> https://github.com/pypa/virtualenv/issues/2027
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> Are you on the most recent develop branch 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> (9.3.beta7)?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2021 at 9:20 AM Trevor Karn 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > Hi,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > I'm trying to build Sage from the source code. I 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > cloned it from git, and tried to build from the 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > develop branch using make from the sage 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > directory. I ran into trouble building cython. 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > The error message suggested that I email this 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > group. Does anyone have any advice on how to 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > proceed?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > I am using macOS Big Sur 11.2 on a MacBook Air.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > The log file is attached, this is from a second 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > run - it failed once, and I tried running make a 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > second time without any changes and this is the 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > log from the second run, which returns the same 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > error just without all of the info before it (eg. 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > the flint installation).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > Thanks so much.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > Best,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> > Trevor
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >
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