Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-12 Thread Tony B
Whoa. My el-cheapo HP 2600n 'warms up' in seconds. I don't print too
many color pages, and never color photos, but I've never noticed it
being particularly slow. Works great.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 3:41 PM, t.piwowar  wrote:
> In contrast, every HP color laser I have encountered has a warm up time
> measured in minutes and is deadly slow printing. I would avoid.


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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-12 Thread t.piwowar

On Jan 11, 2010, at 11:49 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote:
But I have found that when I buy a budget printer I get exactly what  
I paid for.


I bought a cheap color laser (cn3100) from Dell about 3 years ago for  
a bit over $300. For my low volume use it is completely satisfactory.  
I even use it for pre-press proofs and it is very close. It works on  
the LAN and even supports PostScript. My only complaint is that it is  
ugly.


In contrast, every HP color laser I have encountered has a warm up  
time measured in minutes and is deadly slow printing. I would avoid.



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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I know that many of us (Except a few on this list) are constrained by 
budgets when we choose computer accessories.


But I have found that when I buy a budget printer I get exactly what 
I paid for.


The Workforce line from Epson is supposed to be pretty good.

Also look at the HP office jet line.  The L series is extremely 
good.  Duplexing, networking etc.  Plus it uses multiple cartridges 
(4 color) not AIO color carts.


I bought a L7650 this summer for just over $100, it was a refurb.  I 
have been extremely pleased with it, plus I got an extra paper tray 
for $25 and put it on.


Their newer series is 8500 series.  Look closely and figure out how 
much you really want to pay for this printer.  Spend a little more 
and get what you need, you are investing money in this thing.  You 
want one that will last a few years.


Check Epsons and see what they have in refurbs.  the RX700 I bought 
was a refurb, and it sold for over 200 new but I paid just over 100 
and free shipping from Epson.


Check HP's refurbs (I have found their prices are usually not a great deal.)

Finally check out www.compgeek.com for refurb printers.

Most of all read reviews of any printer you want to buy FIRST.  You 
will be reading real peoples reactions to these printers.


Look long and hard before you leap.

Stewart


At 10:22 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:

Talk to others first and read reviews.

One of my members bought one of these and returned it he was that 
disappointed.


Ended up getting an HP.

Stewart


At 10:15 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:

Ok...now I can't make up any mind.  Fry's electronics has a refurb to
factory spec samsung color laser for 110 dollars.  This seems closer to our
need, will give us some color when we need it, but will also handle the
output for my wife's school needs.



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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

Talk to others first and read reviews.

One of my members bought one of these and returned it he was that disappointed.

Ended up getting an HP.

Stewart


At 10:15 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:

Ok...now I can't make up any mind.  Fry's electronics has a refurb to
factory spec samsung color laser for 110 dollars.  This seems closer to our
need, will give us some color when we need it, but will also handle the
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread mike
Ok...now I can't make up any mind.  Fry's electronics has a refurb to
factory spec samsung color laser for 110 dollars.  This seems closer to our
need, will give us some color when we need it, but will also handle the
output for my wife's school needs.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Darrell Anon wrote:

> On 1/11/10, Rev. Stewart Marshall  wrote:
> > I do both.
> >
> > I have a B&W laser that I urge the family to use for everyday
> > printing that does not need color.
> >
> > However when it is time for color I like the AIO.
> >
> > The fax works great especially for RECEIVING FAXES.  Very rarely do I
> > send one, but I do get them in.  Computers do not work for this much
> > anymore (unless you have a fax modem installed)
> >
> > Plus the AIO's are great document scanners.  I love having the ADF's
> > on them for doing a lot of scanning work.  I cannot buy a flat bed
> > with ADF for less than the AIO's and often they are much
> > cheaper.  Plus I have had the printer fail before the scanner in many
> cases.
> >
> > And just for discussion sake.  I much prefer the Epson scanners to the
> HP's.
> >
> > If I have to scan in a picture etc.  I will use my Epson and not the
> > HP.  Documents HP is OK.  I think it is in the software, I have seen
> > numerous comments that their software interface sucks.
> >
> > To add to this discussion.  For bulk scanning of documents.  Which do
> > you prefer, Omnipage, Abby Press or Paperport?
> >
> > Stewart
> >
> >
> > At 04:40 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need
> >>color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was
> >>$25 for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for <$20 for 2500+
> >>copies. Color inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it?
> >>
> >>Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a
> >>fax that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax
> >>software. I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or
> >>fax break in the AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out.
> >>Then you're left with an oversized printer.
> >>
> >>We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great.
> >>Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use.
> >>
> >>Betty
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread Darrell Anon
On 1/11/10, Rev. Stewart Marshall  wrote:
> I do both.
>
> I have a B&W laser that I urge the family to use for everyday
> printing that does not need color.
>
> However when it is time for color I like the AIO.
>
> The fax works great especially for RECEIVING FAXES.  Very rarely do I
> send one, but I do get them in.  Computers do not work for this much
> anymore (unless you have a fax modem installed)
>
> Plus the AIO's are great document scanners.  I love having the ADF's
> on them for doing a lot of scanning work.  I cannot buy a flat bed
> with ADF for less than the AIO's and often they are much
> cheaper.  Plus I have had the printer fail before the scanner in many cases.
>
> And just for discussion sake.  I much prefer the Epson scanners to the HP's.
>
> If I have to scan in a picture etc.  I will use my Epson and not the
> HP.  Documents HP is OK.  I think it is in the software, I have seen
> numerous comments that their software interface sucks.
>
> To add to this discussion.  For bulk scanning of documents.  Which do
> you prefer, Omnipage, Abby Press or Paperport?
>
> Stewart
>
>
> At 04:40 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:
>>Mike
>>
>>While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need
>>color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was
>>$25 for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for <$20 for 2500+
>>copies. Color inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it?
>>
>>Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a
>>fax that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax
>>software. I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or
>>fax break in the AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out.
>>Then you're left with an oversized printer.
>>
>>We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great.
>>Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use.
>>
>>Betty
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread mike
Yes we've been tossing around the same questions.  We have a small HP laser,
refills locally at a dealer are 65 bux.  We think the drum may be going out
because for about the last 3rd of the cycle it's been dropping toner on the
left side.  I faxed today...last week twice.

But yes, these things you list are on our minds.  Thanks for putting it out
there.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 3:40 PM, b_s-wilk  wrote:

> Mike
>
> While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need color? I
> just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was $25 for 2000+
> copies, the other was on sale for <$20 for 2500+ copies. Color inkjet
> cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it?
>
> Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a fax
> that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax software. I
> have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or fax break in the AIO
> will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out. Then you're left with an
> oversized printer.
>
> We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great. Small
> footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I do both.

I have a B&W laser that I urge the family to use for everyday 
printing that does not need color.


However when it is time for color I like the AIO.

The fax works great especially for RECEIVING FAXES.  Very rarely do I 
send one, but I do get them in.  Computers do not work for this much 
anymore (unless you have a fax modem installed)


Plus the AIO's are great document scanners.  I love having the ADF's 
on them for doing a lot of scanning work.  I cannot buy a flat bed 
with ADF for less than the AIO's and often they are much 
cheaper.  Plus I have had the printer fail before the scanner in many cases.


And just for discussion sake.  I much prefer the Epson scanners to the HP's.

If I have to scan in a picture etc.  I will use my Epson and not the 
HP.  Documents HP is OK.  I think it is in the software, I have seen 
numerous comments that their software interface sucks.


To add to this discussion.  For bulk scanning of documents.  Which do 
you prefer, Omnipage, Abby Press or Paperport?


Stewart


At 04:40 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:

Mike

While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need 
color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was 
$25 for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for <$20 for 2500+ 
copies. Color inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it?


Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a 
fax that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax 
software. I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or 
fax break in the AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out. 
Then you're left with an oversized printer.


We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great. 
Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use.


Betty



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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread b_s-wilk

Mike

While AIO and wireless are attractive features, do you really need 
color? I just bought two laser cartridges for our printers, one was $25 
for 2000+ copies, the other was on sale for <$20 for 2500+ copies. Color 
inkjet cartridges cost many times more. Is it worth it?


Do you really need an all-in-one? When was the last time you sent a fax 
that wasn't created on your computer? My Mac has built-in fax software. 
I have a separate scanner, too. When the scanner and/or fax break in the 
AIO will you buy a new one? Scanner bulbs burn out. Then you're left 
with an oversized printer.


We have a Brother wireless printer--no fax, no scanner. Works great. 
Small footprint. Inexpensive to buy and to use.


Betty


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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

I remember that but it was only for newer carts.

My RX700 does not use a chip so I have had no problems.

the CX8400 does have a chip and I am pretty sure these are from off 
shore.  They are a two piecer.  A tank  with ink, plus a shell with the chip.


They are not the same quality as Epson but they last just as long and 
are about 1/4 the price.  This is not my main printer so I am not as concerned.


I have an HP 7650 which is my main color ink jet (Office class from 
HP) and the refills for this are pretty inexpensive and I get more 
mileage from it.


Stewart

At 04:13 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mike  wrote:

> I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third
> party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the
> printer.  Third party ink experiences?  Good or bad?  Company names?  I
> think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer...

  Epson won a lawsuit in the Unites States a few years ago that bars
third parties from replicating their cartridges, filling them with ink
and selling them.  A couple of companies designed carts that, while
not closely replicating the Epson ones, do work just fine in the
printers they were designed for.  Epson fumed a bit, but could not
really do anything about it.  However, because of that lawsuit, Epson
third party carts are hard to come by these days.  To my knowledge, no
other major printer makers have filed similar lawsuits.

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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mike  wrote:

> I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third
> party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the
> printer.  Third party ink experiences?  Good or bad?  Company names?  I
> think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer...

  Epson won a lawsuit in the Unites States a few years ago that bars
third parties from replicating their cartridges, filling them with ink
and selling them.  A couple of companies designed carts that, while
not closely replicating the Epson ones, do work just fine in the
printers they were designed for.  Epson fumed a bit, but could not
really do anything about it.  However, because of that lawsuit, Epson
third party carts are hard to come by these days.  To my knowledge, no
other major printer makers have filed similar lawsuits.

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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread mike
probably only comes .53 percent full too..

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Tony B  wrote:

> That's right, these things are under some pressure, aren't they? This
> Epson comes with full cartridges, but it tells you half of the first
> is needed for 'charging'.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mike  wrote:
> > I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy
> third
> > party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the
> > printer.  Third party ink experiences?  Good or bad?  Company names?  I
> > think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer...
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, phartz...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Turk 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going
> >> for excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save
> you
> >> $.
> >>
> >>   There are companies, but not a lot of them, that make "generic" inks
> >> for many printers that provide for better color reproduction and a
> >> higher degree of archival quality than the inks offered by the printer
> >> makers themselves.  These ink makers do not primarily cater to folks
> >> who are simply looking for cheaper inks for their printers, but rather
> >> to folks who seek very high quality inks for purposes usually related
> >> to the production of artwork.  Some of their basic are less expensive
> >> then what is offered by the printer manufacturer, while many of their
> >> higher-end inks are not, and some of their ink sets are not even
> >> offered by the printer maker, probably most specifically the quadtone
> >> inksets and carbon-based inks for black and white imaging.  These
> >> carbon-based inks can create b&w images that are virtually
> >> indistinguishable from real photographic silver prints.  Higher end
> >> inks are usually paired up with certain papers using ICC color
> >> profiles to be able to achieve the intended final result.
> >>
> >>  My point is that third-party ink makers are not necessarily
> >> providers of lesser quality inks.  However, most generic ink makers do
> >> not provide inks that are the equivalent of the original inks made by
> >> the printer manufacturer.  The best generic ink suppliers will give
> >> you information about how their inks stack up against the originals.
> >> They will do this by comparing the chemical analysis of their inks
> >> against the inks made by the printer manufacturer, including two
> >> important points, the viscosity and ph factors of the ink.
> >>
> >>  Steve
> >>
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall

At present I have three different Epson printers.

RX700
R300
CX8400

I use generic cartridges in all.

The CX8400 uses chips and they have made a system that works 
successfully with the chips but it is not perfect.


Matter of fact the refills I got for the CX are from Ebay.

No blow ups no out right failures.

Just be aware that Epsons seems to go through a lot of ink.  Read 
reviews on Cnet first.


You should be able to get a comparable HP for a similar price and 
their cartridges seem to last longer.  (I have a few of those also)


Stewart




At 01:08 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:

I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third
party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the
printer.  Third party ink experiences?  Good or bad?  Company names?  I
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread Tony B
That's right, these things are under some pressure, aren't they? This
Epson comes with full cartridges, but it tells you half of the first
is needed for 'charging'.


On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:08 PM, mike  wrote:
> I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third
> party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the
> printer.  Third party ink experiences?  Good or bad?  Company names?  I
> think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer...
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, phartz...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Turk 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going
>> for excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you
>> $.
>>
>>   There are companies, but not a lot of them, that make "generic" inks
>> for many printers that provide for better color reproduction and a
>> higher degree of archival quality than the inks offered by the printer
>> makers themselves.  These ink makers do not primarily cater to folks
>> who are simply looking for cheaper inks for their printers, but rather
>> to folks who seek very high quality inks for purposes usually related
>> to the production of artwork.  Some of their basic are less expensive
>> then what is offered by the printer manufacturer, while many of their
>> higher-end inks are not, and some of their ink sets are not even
>> offered by the printer maker, probably most specifically the quadtone
>> inksets and carbon-based inks for black and white imaging.  These
>> carbon-based inks can create b&w images that are virtually
>> indistinguishable from real photographic silver prints.  Higher end
>> inks are usually paired up with certain papers using ICC color
>> profiles to be able to achieve the intended final result.
>>
>>  My point is that third-party ink makers are not necessarily
>> providers of lesser quality inks.  However, most generic ink makers do
>> not provide inks that are the equivalent of the original inks made by
>> the printer manufacturer.  The best generic ink suppliers will give
>> you information about how their inks stack up against the originals.
>> They will do this by comparing the chemical analysis of their inks
>> against the inks made by the printer manufacturer, including two
>> important points, the viscosity and ph factors of the ink.
>>
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread mike
I know this is anecdotal, but I do have one friend who refuses to buy third
party inks after one exploded in a printer bascially and ruined the
printer.  Third party ink experiences?  Good or bad?  Company names?  I
think barring an epson horror story we will probably get this printer...

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM, phartz...@gmail.com
wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Turk 
> wrote:
>
> > Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going
> for excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you
> $.
>
>   There are companies, but not a lot of them, that make "generic" inks
> for many printers that provide for better color reproduction and a
> higher degree of archival quality than the inks offered by the printer
> makers themselves.  These ink makers do not primarily cater to folks
> who are simply looking for cheaper inks for their printers, but rather
> to folks who seek very high quality inks for purposes usually related
> to the production of artwork.  Some of their basic are less expensive
> then what is offered by the printer manufacturer, while many of their
> higher-end inks are not, and some of their ink sets are not even
> offered by the printer maker, probably most specifically the quadtone
> inksets and carbon-based inks for black and white imaging.  These
> carbon-based inks can create b&w images that are virtually
> indistinguishable from real photographic silver prints.  Higher end
> inks are usually paired up with certain papers using ICC color
> profiles to be able to achieve the intended final result.
>
>  My point is that third-party ink makers are not necessarily
> providers of lesser quality inks.  However, most generic ink makers do
> not provide inks that are the equivalent of the original inks made by
> the printer manufacturer.  The best generic ink suppliers will give
> you information about how their inks stack up against the originals.
> They will do this by comparing the chemical analysis of their inks
> against the inks made by the printer manufacturer, including two
> important points, the viscosity and ph factors of the ink.
>
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Turk  wrote:

> Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going for 
> excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you $.

  There are companies, but not a lot of them, that make "generic" inks
for many printers that provide for better color reproduction and a
higher degree of archival quality than the inks offered by the printer
makers themselves.  These ink makers do not primarily cater to folks
who are simply looking for cheaper inks for their printers, but rather
to folks who seek very high quality inks for purposes usually related
to the production of artwork.  Some of their basic are less expensive
then what is offered by the printer manufacturer, while many of their
higher-end inks are not, and some of their ink sets are not even
offered by the printer maker, probably most specifically the quadtone
inksets and carbon-based inks for black and white imaging.  These
carbon-based inks can create b&w images that are virtually
indistinguishable from real photographic silver prints.  Higher end
inks are usually paired up with certain papers using ICC color
profiles to be able to achieve the intended final result.

  My point is that third-party ink makers are not necessarily
providers of lesser quality inks.  However, most generic ink makers do
not provide inks that are the equivalent of the original inks made by
the printer manufacturer.  The best generic ink suppliers will give
you information about how their inks stack up against the originals.
They will do this by comparing the chemical analysis of their inks
against the inks made by the printer manufacturer, including two
important points, the viscosity and ph factors of the ink.

  Steve


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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread David Turk
Normally, I don't recommend using generic ink, but if you're not going for 
excellent color reproduction or archival quality, generics can save you $.  
Innovera makes inks for several Epson models, & so far I haven't had a problem. 
 Nobody's going to give you a page count/cartridge figure.  The only way I 
calculated ours was to keep track for the first cartridge set vs. page count, & 
come up with a (very rough) estimate.  Of course, we'd already bought the 
printer.

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Oh I know that's how they make the money.  It looks on first glance about 65
bux to replace all four cartridges.  What I am having a hard time finding is
what kind of output I'm looking at for say just text, I really have no
idea.  200 pages on one black cartridge?  Less?  More?  I've either got to
spend 65 or 70 and replace out toner in the little laser we have...and hope
the drum isn't going out because it's printing..strangely...or get this
epson and deal with the increased ink costs but have the advantages of an
AIO and WIFI.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Tony B  wrote:

> That's the going price these days - Staples is also $99. As with all
> inkjets, where they make their profit is by selling you the ink
> cartridges. I can't imagine wireless setup would be easy if you
> couldn't do it via a control panel over USB. I mean, I can't imagine
> myself standing there and trying to manually key in our 64 bit WPA
> key.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:23 AM, mike  wrote:
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Workforce-Wireless-Printer-C11CA50201/dp/B002JM1XOY
> >
> > That's 99 bux at fry's electronics, anyone have opinions?  Any reason NOT
> to
> > jump on this at that price?  Replacing a tired one my wife uses almost
> > exclusively for school.  Any thoughts appreciated.
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Ink jets I always look for individual color ink tanks.  I go through
yellow faster than everything else and on three ink tank would only half
empty the other two.  I tried to standardize to one brand of printer in the
house because I have Ink that works on both printers.

My Canon's have two black ink tanks a big one and a smaller one.  Downside
is that it still won't print if the black 5 tank is empty and the black 8
tank is full.
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread mike
Oh I know that's how they make the money.  It looks on first glance about 65
bux to replace all four cartridges.  What I am having a hard time finding is
what kind of output I'm looking at for say just text, I really have no
idea.  200 pages on one black cartridge?  Less?  More?  I've either got to
spend 65 or 70 and replace out toner in the little laser we have...and hope
the drum isn't going out because it's printing..strangely...or get this
epson and deal with the increased ink costs but have the advantages of an
AIO and WIFI.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Tony B  wrote:

> That's the going price these days - Staples is also $99. As with all
> inkjets, where they make their profit is by selling you the ink
> cartridges. I can't imagine wireless setup would be easy if you
> couldn't do it via a control panel over USB. I mean, I can't imagine
> myself standing there and trying to manually key in our 64 bit WPA
> key.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:23 AM, mike  wrote:
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Workforce-Wireless-Printer-C11CA50201/dp/B002JM1XOY
> >
> > That's 99 bux at fry's electronics, anyone have opinions?  Any reason NOT
> to
> > jump on this at that price?  Replacing a tired one my wife uses almost
> > exclusively for school.  Any thoughts appreciated.
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Re: [CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-11 Thread Tony B
That's the going price these days - Staples is also $99. As with all
inkjets, where they make their profit is by selling you the ink
cartridges. I can't imagine wireless setup would be easy if you
couldn't do it via a control panel over USB. I mean, I can't imagine
myself standing there and trying to manually key in our 64 bit WPA
key.


On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:23 AM, mike  wrote:
> http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Workforce-Wireless-Printer-C11CA50201/dp/B002JM1XOY
>
> That's 99 bux at fry's electronics, anyone have opinions?  Any reason NOT to
> jump on this at that price?  Replacing a tired one my wife uses almost
> exclusively for school.  Any thoughts appreciated.


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[CGUYS] epson workforce 610

2010-01-10 Thread mike
http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Workforce-Wireless-Printer-C11CA50201/dp/B002JM1XOY

That's 99 bux at fry's electronics, anyone have opinions?  Any reason NOT to
jump on this at that price?  Replacing a tired one my wife uses almost
exclusively for school.  Any thoughts appreciated.


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