[Elecraft] Is KX3 going obsolete

[Stephen Dubin via Elecraft]

 I don't think an radio is obsolete unless/until it doesn't meet emission 
standards. I have IC735 that I still enjoy operating when I want a hit of QRO! 
VY 73 de W3UECSteve DubinNight gathers and now my watch begins. It shall not 
end until I reach Top of the Honor Roll- W2IRT  
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Re: [Elecraft] Friedrichshafen

[Stephen Craven]

Good time, now for sight seeing !!

Steve N9SC


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Re: [Elecraft] friedrichshafen

[Stephen Craven]

Larry,

I too plan on being there. Always a good time. I will look for you.

Steve N9SC

> On 06/21/2022 8:18 AM turnbull  wrote:
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> Larry, I will also be there.    It is maybe a quarter the size of Dayton but 
> I believe more salubrious.   My good wife comes with me and we generally make 
> a week of it.   Friedricshafen is a resort area of DL land.   People 
> generally eat outdoors in the town looking out across the Bodensee to 
> mountains in HB land.    You can take ferries all around L. Constance 
> visiting both HB and OE lands.   They run as one expects being so close to HB 
> and are not dear.    No problem with English as the DLs are most 
> understanding of our lack of language skills.   Most restaurants either have 
> English on the menu or an English menu.    If you are on your own it is not 
> difficult to join in with another group.   Oh and the beer is good.We will be 
> staying in the town at first Hotel City Krone with a split to the Select 
> Hotel and then back to Hotel City Krone.   You do not want the incumberance 
> of a car.   Taxis are reasonable and buses good.   There is a free shuttle 
> running regularly from the ferry docks to the Messe about four miles out of 
> the town.   Do not be anxious this is a fun enjoyable town.73   EI2CN   
> DougSent from my Galaxy
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> Date: 21/06/2022  03:31  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: 
> [Elecraft] friedrichshafen Hello Elecraft fans..Anyone here going to the 
> Friedrichshafen convention next week ?I will be there Friday and Saturday,and 
> look forward to meeting some new friends.Thanks,Larry K6ro 
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[Elecraft] What is a reasonable turnover time to hear from Elecraft support:

[Stephen Dubin via Elecraft]

 I sent an inquiry to Elecraft Support (my plaintiff "What to do when'When all 
else fails' fails:?" message) and * have not hear back.  I wonder what, under 
current conditions, is a reasonable time to wait for a response or, at least,  
acknowledgement..  TNX FER  HELP! 
VY 73 de W3UECSteve Dubindubinse@aol.com39.928995 N, -75.339629 W 
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[Elecraft] What do I do when "When all else fails" fails?: (boot and reload problem)

[Stephen Dubin via Elecraft]

 Today when I pressed the "power" button on K3; instead of the friendly startup 
message,  I got four blinking green lights followed by an evanescent blank 
orange main screen.  I invoked the "hold in "down/change" knob while pressing 
"power" which gave interesting but not useful results.  So,  I connected my 
computer with the K3 utility program and checked to be sure I had (on my 
computer) the latest firmware.. I then followed the directions in the help file 
for "What if all else fails,"  to attempt downloading of fresh firmware.  After 
holding in the "power" button for 10 seconds, I go the predicted flashing red 
"TX"  light and the "MCU LD"  on the screen. I operated the utility program (* 
apparently successfully)  to "send all firmware  to radio" and the green stripe 
progressed across my computer's screen with the following sequence of messages: 
Elecraft K3 Utility Revision 1.16.7.25
OS Version 10.0 Build 19044 
K3 MCU revision ??.??. RS-232 speed 38400 bit/s.
Sending firmware file C:\Users\dubin\AppData\Roaming\Elecraft\K3 
Firmware\hmcu0567.hex to MCU
Waiting 6 seconds for reset to complete
Error code 0xE245: No response after reset
MCU verification failed. Reload MCU.
Click "Close" to close this window I did this procedure two more times with he 
same  outcome.\ What do I do now that "When all else fails" seems to fail? I 
will sincerely appreciate any help ( especially if it works) to get my beloved 
K3 working. .
VY 73 de W3UECSteve Dubin39.928995 N, -75.339629 W 
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Re: [Elecraft] A hat was saved (totally apropos of nothing)

[Stephen Black via Elecraft]

All my best T shirts smell like Pledge. Steve kb1chu

On 3/28/2022 7:47 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Hmmm ... I've always put mine in with the dishes.  Perhaps I've missed 
something?


73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

Dennis Moore wrote on 3/28/2022 3:49 PM:
I've run mine through the dishwasher without issue. I can clean 
six-eight hats at a time. Not with the dirty dishes!


73, Dennis NJ6G

On 3/27/2022 18:07, Rich WC3T wrote:
My wife in cleaning a junk bin this weekend found a “...filthy, 
dirty hat.  Can I throw it out?” She brandished my Elecraft hat.


I screamed.  “I’ve been looking for that hat for months!!! You may 
NOT throw it out and if you do I’ll buy two more to replace it!”    
She gave me a long suffering glance and relinquished it.  It’s now 
safely in my part of the closet. I thought I was going insane 
because I couldn’t find it.


72,
Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737
Grid: FN20is







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Re: [Elecraft] K4

[Stephen Black via Elecraft]

Can't take it with you and for all the crap we all faced in life we may 
as well enjoy our later years. Steve kb1chu


On 8/16/2021 5:39 PM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote:

I have 4 kids, I could give each another $1500.00 when I dieor I could buy

A new K4 , Let’s see which should I do?
Ken K5DNL

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[Elecraft] K4 + Winlink

[stephen shearer]

Is This A K4 Problem??

THIS was on the FSARC email server today...

"From Steve Waterman, the WL2K guru, that fully software-defined radios,
like Flex, have had handshaking timing issues with VARA, and with SCS 
Pactor modems.


Flex and SCS have firmware upgrades to improve handshaking speed when 
using Pactor.

Improvements to the VARA software are imminent, if not already released. "

73, steve Wb3LGC

I don't have problems with my KX3 (zero delay), why would the K4, just 
asking...


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping

[stephen shearer]

Yes, I saw that and the " After that you will start to see the the order 
date that we are shipping change much more quickly. "  I am sure I can 
find another holiday (Fathers Day) between now and my shipping date.  I 
"need" matching monitors and a nice desk to go with the K4D and the PN50 
mini computer (holiday #4)...


73, steve WB3LGC

On 4/26/21 4:42 PM, Eric Garner wrote:

There was an update to the K4 product page yesterday that spelled this out
in more detail:

*K4 Update 4/25/2021*

We are working hard getting your K4's out the door and we have just
finished shipping our Group 1 orders from May 16th, which was 1 day before
the 2019 Dayton Hamvention opened. We are now shipping from the May 17th
group 1 orders.


We had a huge surge of orders on May 17th from both Dayton, on-line and
telephone orders. We expect it will take us approximately 4-6 weeks to ship
these orders. After that you will start to see the the order date that we
are shipping change much more quickly.


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:24 PM stephen shearer 
wrote:


Bill,

Group one was still taking orders at the beginning of 2020 (January at
least).
I placed my group one order before Thanksgiving 2019.
I suspect (hope) most of the group one orders were placed during the
Hamvention ??
I upgraded my order from a K4 to a K4D before Easter 2020 (no problem -
still in Group One).
Note the HOLIDAY "gift" theme and the wife got an equal $$ (I asked if
she wanted a K4D also.  No she {KB3FMT/tech} didn't).

73, steve WB3LGC

On 4/26/21 3:50 PM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote:

   Joe
There are 3 groups.  Group one has at least 2 days.  Group one day two

orders should be filled by mid May.  Do you know how many days arein group
one?  I know I don't, hi.  I don't even know what group I am in.

GL with your order.  I am not gonna get too excited about expected

shipping dates anymore.  I look forward to them telling us that group oneis
all shipped however long of a period of time that group is.

BillK3WJV

  On Friday, April 23, 2021, 3:15:40 PM EDT, Joseph Trombino, Jr <

w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

   Howdy Gang.

Getting excited now that my K4 should be shipping in the next several

weeks.

After all, the Mother Ship said that the Group 1 orders will be filled

by the end of May (this May—grin).

And I'm in Group 1 sooo………I’ll believe it when I see it (grin).

Any K4’s shipped recently?

Take care and stay healthy.

CU on the bands, CW of course!

  73, Joe W2KJ
  I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping

[stephen shearer]

Bill,

Group one was still taking orders at the beginning of 2020 (January at 
least).

I placed my group one order before Thanksgiving 2019.
I suspect (hope) most of the group one orders were placed during the 
Hamvention ??
I upgraded my order from a K4 to a K4D before Easter 2020 (no problem - 
still in Group One).
Note the HOLIDAY "gift" theme and the wife got an equal $$ (I asked if 
she wanted a K4D also.  No she {KB3FMT/tech} didn't).


73, steve WB3LGC

On 4/26/21 3:50 PM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote:

  Joe
There are 3 groups.  Group one has at least 2 days.  Group one day two orders 
should be filled by mid May.  Do you know how many days arein group one?  I 
know I don't, hi.  I don't even know what group I am in.
GL with your order.  I am not gonna get too excited about expected shipping 
dates anymore.  I look forward to them telling us that group oneis all shipped 
however long of a period of time that group is.

BillK3WJV

 On Friday, April 23, 2021, 3:15:40 PM EDT, Joseph Trombino, Jr 
 wrote:
  
  Howdy Gang.


Getting excited now that my K4 should be shipping in the next several weeks.

After all, the Mother Ship said that the Group 1 orders will be filled by the 
end of May (this May—grin).

And I'm in Group 1 sooo………I’ll believe it when I see it (grin).

Any K4’s shipped recently?

Take care and stay healthy.

CU on the bands, CW of course!

             73, Joe W2KJ
             I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft PA via Generator Power?

[stephen shearer]

Yes, BUT For the 2KW Honda, how long do you want it to run???
SEE "long Run Kits" 
https://www.amazon.com/Bergs-System-HND1-2000IS-Single-Tank/dp/B07K385YGX/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1=honda+generator+extended+run+kit=1618178399=8-2


You can also find the parts to make the kit and modify a "cheap" plastic 
gas can...


73, Steve WB3LGC

On 4/11/21 7:46 AM, Dave wrote:

I asked the same question on eHam yesterday.

Currently I have a Yamaha EF2800i (lightweight “frame” inverter generator,
29Kg dry), it will power a transceiver and a KPA500 easily, although if
using CW at 400W o/p it runs smoother if economy mode is turned off. It is
fine on eco mode with SSB.

The generator dates from 2006 and has been flawless, however, I fancy a
lighter and quieter unit.*The 2KVA suitcase types look good, but appear to only have enough 
fuel for around 4 hours,*  the EF2800i runs well over 8

hours without a refill.

Maybe I should visit a gym and strengthen my back!

73 Dave G4AON

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Re: [Elecraft] Testing

[stephen shearer]

Don, (good keyboard copy) 599 here...  has many of the mails gone to 
elecraft-K4 and elecraft-KX3  ??   I personally "killed" my -K4 account, 
too much junk guessing when their K4 will be delivered...  and did 
"someone" really say "by the end of May?"


73, steve WB3LGC

On 4/9/21 11:49 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Just testing - I have not seen many posts over the last month

73,
Don W3FPR
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[Elecraft] KX3 PX3 PSK31 SPLIT

[stephen shearer]

OK,  I tried...

Can I set up the internal PSK31 for split?

I tried, the best I could do is RIT.
It would be nice to TX and have split to tune RX.
PSK31 works, but is touchy.  It would be nice to leave the TX freq alone 
(so the other station doesn't have to chase you) as you move the RX freq 
to keep any lock.  Stronger signals "seem" to less of a problem.
BTW, the PX3 with keyboard is very nice for digital modes as "function" 
keys provide text memories.

(has anyone else made use of this feature?)

Decode ON (for one) makes SPLIT N/A ??

Anyone tried this on K4?

73, steve WB3LGC

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Re: [Elecraft] MC-60A - K4 option request...

[stephen shearer]

OK, yes - put it on the "to do" list...

I have had the "same" issue with my KX3.  Adjusting the TX EQ, CMP, and 
Mike gain.
See: 
https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/09/09/transmit-audio-and-compression-with-the-elecraft-kx3/ 



OK, I would like to see for the K4, a built-in APP that will adjust all 
three by (speaking the phonetic alphabet ?? or other) and specifying 
wide, normal, or DX.  Well, I can dream.  I have a couple of different 
headsets and even from Heil, they all have different elements.  Need 
different settings.  How nice (for Field Day for example) to be able to 
sit down in front of the radio and have the radio, tune to your voice...


It must be possible???


73, steve WB3LGC

On 4/2/21 5:21 PM, Brian Denley wrote:

That mic has a built in preamp, even though it is a dynamic mic.  You might 
consider that and lower your mic gain setting in the K3.

Brian Denley
KB1VBF
Sent from my iPad


On Apr 2, 2021, at 2:39 PM, Steve Fox  wrote:

Do I need to make any modifications to use an MC-60A microphone with a K3?

Thanks
Steve
KA4FOX
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 MOUNTING SCREWS

[stephen shearer]

See: https://gemsproducts.com/product/kxpa100-mount/  and the bracket 
comes with screws.


BTW, 10-32 is what is needed (the manual is wrong)

73, steve WB3LGC

On 3/31/21 9:46 PM, KENT HUFFORD wrote:
  


I have a KXPA100 amp. I am trying to mount it. The manual says - "The
bushings are threaded for 8-32 screws. Do not

use screws that extend inside the amplifier more than 1/8" (3.2 mm)."

  


I bought some 8-32 thumb screws from AMAZON and they are too small.

  


Did AMAZON do me wrong, or are the holes another size?

  


Thanks,

Kent

KQ4KK

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Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

[stephen shearer]

"Group 1, done by May" ??  Would be nice.  I am not going to hold my 
breath. The few (2?), "I got a UPS package", were from orders entered 
the first day.  Group 1 was not closed until Jan 2020??


"I Think" some of the communications from Elecraft are "hung up" with 
the Ferengi print from the online event keeping Elecraft from 
re-publishing any of the online event communication until the end of the 
30 day "hold".  If I was running the online event, I would want 
exclusive "use" of any publications for the full 30 days.  So, 16? Apr...


Yes, I could pay my $10 and see all the doc.  I was unavailable during 
the actual event, so I didn't sign up at all.


The last I looked, the KX3 is back ordered, too.

I would not mind an additional 6 month delay, IF I was told it was 
because Elecraft was moving to TN so that they could save 10% over 
current cost/taxes in CA.  I don't expect a move to happen. So, 60 days 
till the end of May, can they do it?


I placed my Group 1 order a week or so before Thanksgiving 2019...

73, steve WB3LGC


On 3/30/21 3:17 PM, John Stengrevics wrote:

During the online event some weeks ago,*Eric said he expected to finish Group 1 
by May. *

73,

John
WA1EAZ


On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Steven Kline via Elecraft 
 wrote:

Paid in full here since last year and ordered June 2019, try rationalizing that 
with spouse.  Down to my last TT Orion of two, barely keeping it on the air.  
Almost at point of needing to cancel and ask money be returned so I can get 
something else and keep operating.  Seeing nothing, hearing nothing (not even 
from anyone receiving a K-4 - assuming some are shipping).  Latter I don’t 
understand how anyone would allow themselves to be bound in secrecy.  If 
occurring must be significant benefit for observing code of silence.  I see no 
light at all inside the tunnel.

Steve - W5JK


On Mar 30, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Lyn Norstad  wrote:

I can’t imagine how it would feel to know that I had laid out $4k two years 
ago, and still be waiting for fulfillment.  NO, actually I can.



Several years ago, an up-and-coming system integration business I had been 
associated with for several years (as a VAR) was going thru many of the same 
types of growing pains in bringing a wonderful new product to market.  The CEO 
vowed he would run the business as if they were broke, which they very nearly 
were.  But the employees were faithful believers in the company and the 
product, and worked very hard to make it a success.



Early one Monday morning, I had a call from that CEO advising me that they had sold 
the company to another industry player (a non-competitor) and that they wanted me 
to join them for lunch to discuss the deal.  My fear and trepidation slowly 
disappeared that day as I met the new management “team” (with all the old R 
team still hard at work), got viable answers to all the hard questions and quickly 
recognized how an immediate cash infusion ($10 Million) had an amazing ability to 
totally turn things around, grease the wheels, and create an industry shakeup that 
precipitated a wave of further consolidation and rapid development.



It was a win-win situation born out of the impending potential disaster we had 
all feared.



Hang in there.  Times might seem tough, but there are some very smart people at 
work here.



73

Lyn, W0LEN



From: elecraft...@groups.io [mailto:elecraft...@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted 
Roycraft
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 4:44 PM
To: elecraft...@groups.io
Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K4] Where are the K4 reviews?



The natives are getting restless and it would be good to hear something 
official from Elecraft.  It's been too long since we've heard much of anything. 
 I would like to know if I can expect my Group 1 order, submitted on August 8, 
2019, has any chance of getting to me before summer, 2021 begins or is it 
likely that I will have to wait another year.  I could have asked much the same 
question a year ago never expecting that a year from then, there would still be 
no K4 sitting on my table by now.  By the way, when I submitted my order the 
expected shipping date was estimated to be November or December, 2019.  That's 
pre-pandemic.

73, Ted, W2ZK

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[Elecraft] K4 K-POD vs KX3/PX3

[stephen shearer]

OK, I own a KX3/PX3 and have a K4 on order.

I like my KX3/PX3 and I am looking forward to having a K4 with the K-POD.
I "see" the K-POD more as a remote KNOB.

What I do like with PX3 is the ability to use the programmable  keyboard 
function keys (or any key you program) to either provide a macro 
function or a "send text" function and having 50 of each type.   This 
function is in addition to the message buttons on the KX3.  I "can" 
operate a CW/RTTY/PSK contest exchange with serial number with just the 
KX3/PX3 and a USB keyboard (and paper log sheet).  No computer required.


Will the K4 have this same function?  I may have missed it.  If the KX3 
can do it, it should be "easy" for the K4 to do the same...


I can see the logic of not having function keys for a USB keyboard.  If 
the K4 is being used for ANY contest or expedition, the K4 would "most 
likely" have a computer attached running software like N1MM+ (and 
function keys for text or macros). As I am not likely to backpack the 
K4...  and I probably have answered my own question.


73, steve WB3LGC


I do like the function keys for the PX3, although full function 
computers are now about the same size and weight as a small keyboard, 
with more functionality.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 SSB/DATA low end cut

[stephen shearer]

The picture was rejected.   Not a problem.  See if the point is said 
without the "extra" 1000 words...   steve


On 2/18/21 8:58 PM, stephen shearer wrote:


I have seen a difference in low end (audio bandpass) performance in 
the past, it was not a problem.

I use DATA for FT8.
I have had "issues" with FOX/HOUND as the FOX is often below 400Hz.
With few DXpeditions, Fox/Hound has not been an issue.
When I have tried Winlink VARA, I have problems as it also works below 
400HZ.


See: snapshot.  DATA vs SSB... SSB is FLAT (0db), but note the signal 
is down to ~200Hz. (you can see when I switched between SSB and DATA.  
In DATA mode, it is ~350Hz (closer to 400Hz for flat data).

(assuming photo made it past email server)

Yes, I can re-set RX/TX EQ between DATA and SSB, I should not have to??

Is this an Elecraft problem with settings (firmware) or is there a 
setting I missed?  (to set DATA low end)...


KX3 #3819  Firmware up to date.

73, Steve WB3LGC



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Panadaptor Display

[stephen shearer]

Mike,

Good idea.

Looking at HDMI capture "cards" - I found many on Amazon and a number 
had audio I/O, too.
Meaning...  A Zoom meeting, video and audio from the K4 as a training 
"session" for FD...


(say it four times! "we will have a K4 for FD...)

I can also "see" HDMI & K4 as a group demo to a large TV for other radio 
events, like JOTA.



73, steve WB3LGC

On 1/26/21 11:30 AM, Michael Van Norman wrote:

There are numerous sources of HDMI capture adapters that looks like
webcams to the PC (e.g. https://www.adafruit.com/product/4669).  Feed
the K4 output to one of these and then you can do almost whatever you
want with it.

73
/Mike
de K6VN


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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Handbook 2021

[stephen shearer]

It looks to me...

For the last few years (since 2019 ???) that the Handbook  now comes in 
three versions. softcover @ $50, eBook @ $50, and "boxed" set @ $60 
(with download included)...


Yes, I too liked the softcover with the CD/DVD included...  It has been 
a few years since I purchased one.  It will be a few years before I 
purchase another?  My first Handbook was about $6...


73, steve WB3LGC

On 11/20/20 8:43 AM, István Szabó wrote:

Excuse me for the off topic, I got the ARRL Handbook without CD from FA. No
CD any more? Download website is not listed anywhere.
73, István HA4ZD
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Re: [Elecraft] K3, k4 Black knobs - headlamp

[stephen shearer]

On the subject of RED LED Headlamps, I have a Energizer - it has two red 
LED's + three white (variable brightness) that cam be selected.  I 
picked it up at Walmart a few years back.  It was in the $10 - $20 
range, I think it was $13..  (cost may be more now).  3xAAA batteries. I 
don't find a model number.


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Energizer-Vision-HD-350-Lumen-LED-Headlamp-Includes-Batteries/47327204 
Looks like $17 now


https://www.energizer.com/lighting/headlights

73, steve WB3LGC

On 10/16/20 7:47 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:

OK, I operate portable and often at night and lighting has to be managed to
reduce critters of the night dive bombing me when operating.

Wearing a head mounted light causes the critters to go into a frenzy so
does not help.

I often wonder what it would be like If the buttons and/or knobs could be
either back-lit or maybe they could be lighter in color to help nighttime
operation.

As it stands, the k3 is very hard to see if i need to use any front
controls.

Placing a light behind me has worked for me but at times the critters
wander away from the light and use me as a target for harassment.

Anyone found an alternative to what I have tried?

Regards,
Gary
VK1ZZ
K3NHL
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[Elecraft] KXPA100 mounting screws

[stephen shearer]

OK, the manual says #8-32 no deeper than 1/8" into case... (page 10)

NOT true, my KXPA100 takes #10-32...  SO, is the depth into the case 
1/8" or do I have more???  bigger screw??


Yes, still 32 TPI...

Help.  so I don't screw it up.  Pun intended.

Steve WB3LGC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 battery upgrade?

[stephen shearer]

Me too.

I only find the AA's useful in keeping the clock running.

steve WB3LGC

On 10/6/20 8:32 AM, w...@jetbroadband.com wrote:

I would buy it.

Jerry, W1IE

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Steve KC6ZKT
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 17:47 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 battery upgrade?

The KX3 is my favorite of my HF radios right now. But one of my annoyances
is the internal battery limitations.

I always wind up carrying an external 6_Ah or 10_Ah LiFePo4 battery into the
field when I use this radio, an external charge controller, and solar panel.
It's not a big problem, but it also should not be a big project to improve
this situation. The KXBC3 has enough real estate to include a lithium
battery charger, and even a solar charge controller in its space. The amount
of battery energy that could fit in-place of the NiMH cells could
approximately triple the capacity of the AA cells.

So I have these questions:

1) How many of you out there might buy an upgrade which replaces the
KXBC3 board with a lithium battery manager, and a associated battery pack?

2) Are there any 3rd parties already making anything like this?

--
--... ...--
SteveSgt, KC6ZKT, @CM97bj73
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 vs. K4D clarification

[stephen shearer]

Terry,

I am most likely at the end of the group, too.
I originally ordered a K4.
I change the order this past spring, to the K4D.
I "don't need" a K4, even.  I have great fun wit a KX3 + PX3 + KXPA100...
I wanted a home station so that the KX3 was my portable station.
I looked at the "D" upgrade as, an "Easter gift" and "the boss" approved.
Yes, I would like to have it for Christmas even if it is a year late.
And it my be Easter 2021...

And as my wife says about buying a dress, it isn't just the dress, it is 
also the accessories...
The accessories will be added this coming Christmas.  Computer, 
Monitor(s), upgrade the coax, and maybe 500 watts + AC power upgrade 
(100 year old house).


73, steve WB3LGC
you can't take it with you.

On 10/4/20 6:24 PM, n...@comcast.net wrote:

Hello all,

  


I am sorry if I miscommunicated.  I have received several private emails
thinking I have been called and expect delivery of a K4.   I have NOT been
called.  I was just referring to when that time comes.  I don't expect a
call for months.  I was very late in the first group.

  


I still need some feedback to help me make my decision when that time comes.

  


73,

  


Terry

  


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Re: [Elecraft] With the K4 coming, is it time to replace this email list with a forum?

[stephen shearer]

I use Thunderbird for my email.
I filter almost everything into one folder or another.  Works great
I filter[Elecraft] and {Elecraft-K4] with any K4 "stuff" in the subject 
line, into a K4 folder. *It could just as easily go into the trash...*

Thunderbird does this automatically about every 10 minutes.
New mail in a folder has a hi-lighted folder and mail count.

easy.

YES, a good subject line helps.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 9/6/20 6:53 PM, W2xj wrote:

*then build a filter. *

Sent from my iPad


On Sep 6, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Barry  wrote:

David Gilbert-2 wrote

And as others have pointed out, there is already a K4 forum on .io .
why doesn't that work for you??

Dave   AB7E

Because I'm not looking for a K4 forum.*I'm looking to AVOID all the K4*
traffic that will be comping.

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size

[stephen shearer]

https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-devices/SJ1-43502PM/CP-SJ1-43502PM-ND/5130707

It may not be correct, but IF sizes use "standard" nuts...  M7x0.75   ? 
someplace to start?


73, steve

On 8/28/20 7:24 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:

It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine threads...which is likely what 
you have here...either work or they don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy 
rotations. And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut 
when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. 
Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be 
"tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get 
the correct one to fit. This works for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and 
nuts. (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a manifold, to a stud I 
can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was sure that I had a proper fit.

Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit manual 
calls out the nut size.

On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote:

Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind you, 
but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no such luck.�

Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able to 
mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it past 1/2 
turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and potentially damage the 
jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further 
by hand, right?

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr 
<c-haw...@illinois.edu> wrote:
1/4"-20�  I think

Chuck Hawley
� c-haw...@illinois.edu
�
� Amateur Radio, KE9UW
� aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles�


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<elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> on behalf of Mooneer 
Salem <moon...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>; 
elecraft...@groups.io 
<elecraft...@groups.io>
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
�
Hi all,

Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
it.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[stephen shearer]

OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4  ??
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) 
November


73, steve

On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:


Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup 
specifically for the K4.


I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by 
enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it 
is. ;-)



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 PX3 desktop stand

[stephen shearer]

Nice install.
I took the GEM mounts and plywood one more step.  I used a ~12" round 
3/4" plywood disk and mounted three RAM mounts; 
https://www.rammount.com/ .  KX3, PX3 and Plastic "box".  The box can 
hold audio ADC and CAT control or for picnic table OP's, and antenna.  I 
am able to adjust KX3/PX3 angle and position for best OP...


73, steve WB3LGC

On 8/9/20 7:56 PM, Mark Goldberg wrote:

Gem's Products KX3 and PX3 mounts and some plywood works for me. See
the bottom of this page:

https://sites.google.com/site/marksmobilehamstation/

73,

Mark
W7MLG

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 1:18 PM Ron Bell via Elecraft
 wrote:


Any recommendation for a desktop stand for a KX3 and PX3 that would keep
both at proper angle and manage the wires?

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Re: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo

[stephen shearer]

He did answer the big Q in the Q/A after the scheduled talk.  Start 
shipping late August.  Quote:  “We are still targeting first K4 
Shipments by the end of August, with production ramping up in September 
through year end. Please be patient during this period as we navigate 
both supply chain delays and the normal production delays as we optimize 
product flow. 73, Eric elecraft.com"


The Q/A was well worth the time...  nothing new, if "you" have been 
paying attention.  (maybe to 10MHz standard, input)  Neat to see, though.


73, steve WB3LGC


On 8/9/20 5:09 PM, Nr4c wrote:

No mention in his talk.  Everything else still says late August. The talk 
didn’t say anything we didn’t already know. I was disappointed.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Aug 9, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Art Suberbielle  wrote:

Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4?

I am registered for the Expo but unable to get any further than Elecraft
booth. Clocking on videos brings me to YouTube and the latest promo video.
But no mention there of the big question.

73,
Art KZ5D
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 training

[stephen shearer]

I AM SURE...
When the first K4 is in the hands of users, that there will be a 
"flurry" of YouTube un-boxing videos.  I am sure the how-to videos will 
follow.


73, steve WB3LGC

On 8/4/20 3:47 AM, turnbull wrote:


Gary makes a good suggestion.    TenTec use to have a CD  which accompanied the Orion 2.  
 This is going to be a pretty complex radio with all its features.   "Are we there 
yet?"Hang in there good ship Elecraft.73 Doug EI2CNPS Now feel for our friends who 
do not speak English.    That is the majority of mankind.Sent from my Samsung Galaxy 
smartphone.
 Original message From: Gary Smith  Date: 04/08/2020 
 07:05  (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K4 training I would 
really like it if when the K4 is released, there were also released on the same day, 
training videos showing what to push, what to enter, a how-to set of videos covering 
different topics of interest. Either a bunch of short ones on a web page, sorted by topic 
& exactly to the point so they'd be easy to find and could be easily replayed till 
the idea is understood. That, or a good legend accompanying a long, more encompassing 
presentation with reference time marks to know where to search for a given 
demonstration.We all learn differently, I have 11 years of college under my belt, but in 
my old age I still say I learn best by observing a demonstration than otherwise.But 
that's just me.73,GaryKA1J__

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[Elecraft] Weird sounds coming from my K1...need a qualified exorcist

[Stephen Roberts]

Sorry. I had the page on my site set to private. The link should work now.

http://w1sfr.com/weird-k1-audio/ 


Here's what happened:

I turned on the radio to get on the air tonight.
It made this sound when I turned it on and after it booted up the sound went 
away.
I plugged in the cable to my paddle and it made the sound.
It makes the sound when I key the radio.
It makes the sound if I activate "tune" on the radio.

Steve
W1SFR


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[Elecraft] Weird sounds coming from my K1...need a qualified exorcist

[Stephen Roberts]

http://w1sfr.com/weird-k1-audio/ 


Here's what happened:

I turned on the radio to get on the air tonight.
It made this sound when I turned it on and after it booted up the sound went 
away.
I plugged in the cable to my paddle and it made the sound.
It makes the sound when I key the radio.
It makes the sound if I activate "tune" on the radio.

Steve
W1SFR


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[Elecraft] KPA1500 Power Supply Fan Noise

[STEPHEN R ZUMBRUN]

Hello, all and Happy Field Day. Say I just wanted to comment about Elecraft 
service and the help they provided me to make a mod to my KPA1500. My KPA1500 
power supply fan was rather noisy. I had seen discussion on the reflector about 
this so I contacted Doug at Elecraft service. He ask if I could solder.  I 
informed him I could and he sent me a new 22 ohm, 3 watt resistor and i swapped 
it out with the 10 ohm, 3 watt resistor on the LED board of the power supply. I 
am much pleased with the sound of the power supply fan now after the 
modification. My amp is an early serial number and the new amps come with the 
22 ohm resistor on the LED board. So...if your power supply is a bit noisy you 
might consider this mod and contact Doug at Elecraft Service. The Elecraft part 
number of the resistor is E500128. 73, Steve W0SZ.
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[Elecraft] K1 Problems

[Stephen Roberts]

I'm suddenly out of a signal. I get hiss but no signal. I'm using a k1 fil 2 
40/20 board.

I was getting weak gain on the 40m side so went in to peak the L1/L2 L5/L6 
Inductors.
I messed about with them but was unable to peak them as I heard no change in the
volume of the hiss.

I also tried C2 Gain tweak and not joy there either. I hear no change in the 
hiss volume
as I turn it.

I rigged up my 7300 with a dummy load and xmitted on 7050 and 14050 and heard a 
signal
but still no effect by changing L1/L2 or L5/L6

I pulled the band board looking for any issues with soldering or whatever and 
found 
nothing. Put the board back in and now I get zip. No receive at all, just 
hissing.

It was working fine yesterday although I felt the gain was very low and needed 
adjustment
which led me to this point in time.

Suggestions on how to get it going again?

73
Steve, W1SFR


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Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500

[stephen shearer]

There has been discussion...  on Elecraft K4 group.
73, steve

On 5/8/20 11:40 AM, N6KR wrote:> Hi Stephen,
>
> This would be cool, but it's a substantial amount of design work. 
We've talked about it, but that's about as far as we've gotten. It might 
depend on demand.

>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>> On May 8, 2020, at 8:38 AM, stephen shearer 
 wrote:

>>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> Speaking of the KAT500, KPA500, and the K4...
>>
>> Are there plans to combine the KAT500 and KPA500 into one box 
matching the K4 ??
>> It would be nice for portable and those that don't want 1500W'sThere 
has been discussion

>>
>> 73, steve WB3LGC
>>
>> On 5/8/20 10:40 AM, N6KR wrote:
>>> Hi Brian,
>>> This is certainly possible, and a very good idea. We'll add it to 
the list of potential features.

>>> Please describe what you'd like to see on such an information display.
>>> 73,
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>>> On May 7, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Brian  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Will the K4 be able to display the operation of KAT500 and KPA 500 
when they are remote to the K4, i.e. if they are fairly close but not 
visible to the operator.

>>>>
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On 6/17/20 3:57 PM, Lou W0FK wrote:

I doubt Elecraft wold spend money to re-engineer the KPA500/KAT500, invest in
new boards, cabinetry, manuals, production/assembly changes, etc. The pair
works well as is, and costs zero R or production dollars to continue them
as they are.

Besides, they'll fit the new K5 profile when it comes out. ;-)

73, Lou W0FK



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[Elecraft] Novice looking for a loaded K1

[Stephen Roberts]

Anyone have one to sell? I'm trying to get a new op up and running and after 
trying my K1, he just has to have one ;-)

Steve—W1SFR


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Re: [Elecraft] NOT the feedline (was KPA-1500 faulting on 6m; SWR issues)

[stephen shearer]

Ground loops can be another issue.
I was having a "feed back" issue with my KX3/KXPA100 ans solved it 
eliminating ground/power loops.


73, steve WB3LGC

On 6/1/20 8:25 AM, David Olean wrote:

Hello Peter

I suspect RFI as well. I do not have a KPA1500, so my advice is not 
worth much, but the fact that the fault only occurs when a signal is 
being radiated sends me a red flag.  I had a similar problem here with 
my SPE amplifier power output. I was measuring it on an LP-100A 
wattmeter.  It turns out that 1.8 MHz energy from the SPE amp radiated 
from my vertical antenna and  was getting into a new wire doublet 
antenna and coming back down the ladder line into the shack. The ladder 
line was about 7 inches from the power coupler for the LP-100A. RF 
caused the readings to go wacky and it looked like my amplifier was 
going postal!  The problem was high rf fields next to the power meter 
coupler.


Ferrite balun heating can be seen with a VSWR meter if you set the power 
at some intermediate level, key the amp up with a steady carrier, and 
watch for VSWR creeping up.  Loose pins in coax can also be a problem. 
They can heat up and disconnect or start arcing. Those problems do not 
typically show VSWR creep. They happen all at once usually.


The KPA1500 works fine into a dummy load. (No RFI)  That is a big 
clue.   Good luck and I hope you find the problem. Maybe an RF sniffer 
would detect the ingress point?


73

Dave K1WHS


On 6/1/2020 5:24 AM, Eric Norris wrote:

Is there any chance RF is getting in to the KPA1500 via an alternative
route, like one of your HF antennas, a faulty switch, loose 
bonding/ground,

or even a change in house wiring or wifi router, antenna rotator cable,
picking up the RF and radiating/routing it to the KPA1500 from the
antenna?  It's a shot in the dark, I know, but cut out everything but the
direct signal path originating from the K3, pull all the house 
breakers not

used, turn off everything--make only the 6m path active and see what
happens if this makes sense to you.

I feel your frustration--the same thing in reverse took out my 2m EME
station. I replaced every single thing, sent the K3 to Elecraft, the 
XV144

to Don...GUD LUCK OM!

VY 73 Eric WD6DBM

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 9:07 PM Peter Dougherty  wrote:

New coax and old coax behaved identically. HOWEVER, running into 
about 80
feet of old RG-213 and into the Cantenna dummy load and it doesn't 
fault.
This is the only condition on 6m where there is no fault. Brand new 
coax,
old coax, brand new antenna, old antenna, with balun, without balun. 
Always

faults except when feeding the pure resistive dummy load. If there's any
reactance it trips or gives false SWR info.

I would also add, why would a 2:1 SWR trip out the amp at 25 or 30 Watts
of drive? On the regular HF bands I can use the internal tuner to 
take out

a 2.5 or 3:1 SWR and it still sends 1400-1450 Watts up the pipe..

  - pjd

-Original Message-
From: Adrian 
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:05 PM
To: Peter Dougherty ; 'Paul Baldock' <
p...@paulbaldock.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] NOT the feedline (was KPA-1500 faulting on 
6m; SWR

issues)

To remove any doubt, a 1.5kw or close dummy load at the end of the 
coax to

replace antenna, would confirm the amp issue.

On 1/6/20 12:27 pm, Peter Dougherty wrote:

Paul, please re-read what I wrote. The 90W figure is with the amp IN
STANDBY! I wouldn't dream of putting more than about 35W into the

KPA-1500.

I generally like to run about 1200W on 6m, but even if I turn my K3s
drive down to 20 Watts, it will STILL hard-fault regularly. NO AMOUNT
OF DRIVE from the K3s will stop these problems. If the amp is set to
deliver power it's going to fault on 6m, regardless of what the ATU is
set for (bypass or inline), and the KPA will miss-read the SWR of the

antenna system.

The resistance figure is 50.8 Ohms, and the reactance is -11 according
to the AA-230. The only difference between "works reliably" and
"faults out all the time" is one is a resistive-only load, the other
has a reactive component.

   - pjd

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

[stephen shearer]

Also see XLOG

73, steve WB3LGC

On 5/25/20 10:57 AM, Bill Frantz wrote:


Does anyone know of good logging software for linux?

73 Bill AE6JV


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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day

[stephen shearer]

"To be listed as Class A, all contacts must be
made with transmitter(s) and receiver(s) operating independent of 
commercial power mains."


IN the past...  I DO remember that IF a computer was used for logging it 
could be on "mains".  Time was ... computers didn't control the rig 
while logging.  Also digital modes change things.


I looked at the rules and "I" could not find the "loggin with mains 
power" anymore...  There was a time "alt power solar" had to be 5W, 
too...  I used "find" in pdf .


73, steve WB3LGC

On 5/24/20 4:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 5/24/2020 1:16 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft wrote:
Two things - if the computer controls the radio (and it should for 
logging and sending exchanges), then it must also be run on emergency 
power. 


Are you sure about that, Jack? I've seen exactly the opposite statement 
(not directly from ARRL, but by someone quoting ARRL).


Second, the addition of a wall charger for the batteries puts you 
firmly into class D. You can charge the batteries off solar panels to 
remove this restriction.


Right.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Heil headset with HC-4 revisited

[stephen shearer]

I don't quite understand the "HC4 doesn't work with a KX3" ???
I have a Heil headset with the HC4 element and it works fine...

YES, bias must be off as also "mic button"...
YES, mike gain will need to be higher.

Since the HC4 has a 2K boost, the TX EQ gain (see: 
https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/09/09/transmit-audio-and-compression-with-the-elecraft-kx3/) 
... 3200Hz might want to be 0db, too.


73, steve WB3LGC

On 5/14/20 2:37 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bert,

When using a mono plug in the KX3 mic jack, turn off BIAS and also set 
MIC BTN to OFF.


Alternately, use the splitter recommended by Walter Underwood - if using 
that splitter, turn MIC BIAS on.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/14/2020 2:15 PM, Bert wrote:

The original Heil headset with the HC-4 element didn't work with the KX3.

I have now replaced the HC-4 with an electret, which sounded
great trying it with the KX3 before installing it in the Heil headset.
The electret, by itself, was plugged in to the KX3 with a stereo plug.

After electret installed in the headset I have quite a lot of hum. The
headset mic is connected with a mono plug to the KX3.

Any ideas why the hum appears after mounting the electret in the headset?

Bert VE3NR


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Re: [Elecraft] CM500 headset on K3S and KX3?

[stephen shearer]

I purchased a Heil Prpset about the same time 2010+/- and they were 
leaving "black bits" around too.  Yes, the Heil is more expensive.  I 
was able to purchase new foam from the DC Store.  I searched HRO and 
they had stock, if you knew the part number.  I now have a new 
Headset...  I DO like the HC4 element and the cotton ear pads...

73, steve WB3LGC

On 5/6/20 12:53 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
My CM500’s earpads are flaking pretty badly, leaving little back bits around the home office/shack. They still work fine. 

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Re: [Elecraft] VOX on KX, using a Heil headset Questions

[stephen shearer]

Agree...  the adapter has a PTT input.  I was planning on making a 
"box", the adapter is easier.  and yes, VOX works and have used cheap 
headset/VOX and have used HC4 Heil headset/VOX too.  PTT has advantage 
of not TXing when you don't want...


I tried the splitter cable (I may have gotten the wrong one) it didn't 
work and I never got to "ringing" out the cable to see why it didn't work...
(I don't like Heil's choice of a 1/4" PTT connector - would rather see 
RCA for mix-up proofing)


steve

On 4/23/20 6:47 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

I’m sure that is a nice cable, but if you just want to plug a 1/8 inch mic plug 
into the KX3, an off-the-shelf $6 stereo to mono splitter will do the same job. 
I figured that out while drawing out the schematic for an adapter box. Details 
here:

https://observer.wunderwood.org/2015/08/16/yamaha-cm500-headset-with-ptt-on-elecraft-kx3/

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)


On Apr 23, 2020, at 3:30 PM, stephen shearer  wrote:

They DO... http://www.dxstore.com/heil_acc.html   (or HRO has them too)...

AD-1KX3 Adapter for Elecraft KX3, 1/8in TRRS$21.95


an adapter, anyway.

73, Steve WB3LGC

On 4/23/20 5:55 PM, Nr4c wrote:

If your Heil mic has a Dynamic element be sure and turn OFF the Bias.
*I’d like to see Heil market a headset with plugs for KX3/2 radios. *

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

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Re: [Elecraft] VOX on KX, using a Heil headset Questions

[stephen shearer]

They DO... http://www.dxstore.com/heil_acc.html   (or HRO has them too)...

AD-1KX3 Adapter for Elecraft KX3, 1/8in TRRS$21.95


an adapter, anyway.

73, Steve WB3LGC

On 4/23/20 5:55 PM, Nr4c wrote:

If your Heil mic has a Dynamic element be sure and turn OFF the Bias.
*I’d like to see Heil market a headset with plugs for KX3/2 radios. *

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 issues with RIT and ATT Led's

[Stephen Roberts]

Several responded and it was a couple of things. First was that the main IC 
wasn't seated completely. I removed it, checked the pins and straightened them 
a bit. That apparently brought the LED's back to life so when I powered up I 
could see them initialize. Then I went to the menu and turned them on. Didn't 
even know there was a menu choice that controlled the LED's. Felt kinda dumb 
when I was told about that. Oh well, I'll take an easy fix any day...

Steve
W1SFR
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[Elecraft] WTB Tuner and Noise Blanker for the K1

[Stephen Roberts]

Can you tell I just got a "new" K1? I've had more than a few over the years. My 
most recent one needs some upgrades. I have a T1 tuner but would like to find 
the KAT1 tuner and the noise blanker.

I knowgood luck eh?

Let me know...

73,
Steve, W1SFR
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[Elecraft] K1 Issues with RIT and ATTN LED's not functioning

[Stephen Roberts]

I recently purchased a K1 and found that the LED's for the RIT and ATTN don't 
function correctly. When I turn on the rig the LED's cycle correctly then go 
out. When I push either of the buttons and turn the RIT or ATTN on, neither of 
the lights come on. 

73,
Steve, W1SFR
w1sfr.com 



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Re: [Elecraft] Single lever paddle for KX2/3?

[stephen shearer]

Try: https://www.americanmorse.com/minib.htm

WB3LGC

On 3/17/20 12:48 PM, Eddy Avila wrote:

Does Elecraft plan on selling a single lever paddle or KX2/3? I have the
QRPguys single lever paddle and it's ok.

tnx and 73

k6sdw
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and JS8CALL

[stephen shearer]

I use KX3 for wsjt-x and JS8Call.  I just connect the KX3 audio 
(headphone jack) to the USB sound card.  I use the waterfall to "hear" 
what is going on and I like the quiet.  I have not noticed hum.  I have 
a few snap on toroids on the audio lines in case.  I use 12" audio 
cables from the KX3 to the sound card and a 3' USB cable to the RPi.  I 
run 80 watts, often...


I use USB Sound card    - 
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-External-Adapter-Windows-AU-MMSA/dp/B00IRVQ0F8/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Sabrent+USB+External+Stereo+Sound+Adapter=1584190492=electronics=1-3


not much different..

73, steve WB3LGC

On 8/7/19 2:02 PM, Michael Arnold wrote:


Michael,

I have good luck using my KX3 with a Raspberry Pi 3B+ and also the new Raspberry Pi 4 for both 
JS8Call and WSJT-X. I use an inexpensive USB audio adapter/sound card and standard stereo 
1/8" (3.5mm) male to male cables connected between the MIC and PHONES jacks on the KX3 
and the sound card. To listen to the receive audio and monitor transmit audio, I split the 
PHONES output using an 1/8-inch "Y cable" and feed one side to the sound card and 
the other side to a powered speaker. For CAT control and PTT via CAT I use the standard 
Elecraft USB serial cable from the ACC1 jack to a Raspberry Pi USB port.

In Settings on the Radio tab, under CAT Control, I choose the K3/KX3 or KX3 as 
the rig and /dev/ttyUSB0 as the serial port. You'll also want to match the 
radio serial port settings, typically, 38400, 8, 1 and none. On the Audio tab, 
under Soundcard, I select Default:CARD=device for both Input and Output.

This method may result in some low-level 60 and 120 Hz audible ground loop hum 
when AC powered, particularly with the powered speaker connected, but the 
transmit signal, at least in my case, is clean. You can certainly use a 
SignaLink or equivalent unit for better isolation and level control, but I've 
found that the little USB audio adapter/sound card works fine and is a really 
compact solution for portable operation!

Audio Adapter:  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N905VOY
Audio Splitter:  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07431YDWM

73,
  Mike W8NWA

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
Behalf Of michaelheit--- via Elecraft
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 5:10 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 and JS8CALL

I would like to use JS8CALL on my Raspberry Pi 3B+ , so do I need to use my 
SignaLink as well?  Has anyone on this group used a Pi3 with JS8CALL connected 
to their KX3? Getting the KX3 connected to the Pi seems problematic; I have all 
the connectors from Elecraft, the program is loaded on the Pi and seems to 
operate properly, but doesn't seem to work with the KX3. I will need to get a 
GPS HAT for the Pi and I'm considering the PI HAT from North West Radio that 
includes a built in GPS with antenna. Thank you in advance for any input ...
de AD7VV

Michael Heit
North Pole, Alaska
AD7VV
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 news?

[stephen shearer]

As I wait for my K4D… I just upgraded from a K4 and added a K-Pod as the 
Easter Bunny and I decided it may not be delivered until after Easter 
(early Apr) anyway. So, I am in a planning stage.


BTW, the upgrade was easy. I sent an electronic message to Sales and 
Madelyn Gomez emailed me back and a message and a link to pay. Simple


Things seem to run slow since I retired.  It take me time to figure out 
where I "stashed" parts I know I have to do even a small project... My 
old desk mike needs connector wires re-located on the pins to fit the 
K4.  I have upgraded my headset and even purchased an adapter to work 
with my KX3 (I was going to make one).  I may just order a Heil/Kenwood 
mike cable, too.


Maybe by the time it gets here, I'll be ready...

The KX3 + amp works...


73, steve WB3LGC


On 3/3/20 6:43 PM, M. George wrote:

I guess it's been a few weeks, so it's time for a new 'Elecraft K4 / any new 
news' thread.  At least it's predictable. Give or take a few days. ;)

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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 Driver Issue

[stephen shearer]

YES,

I am using a KX3.   I use the "bar" on the right and set 20db of 
attenuation in the audio drive "chain".
Mike gain is now set at aprox 40, rather than 3-4 (one step makes a BIG 
step)...

I can set "ALC" correctly.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 2/2/20 7:20 PM, AL7CR wrote:

An absolutely classic problem, I am the first to respond I am assuming only 
because the Super Bowl is on!

I call this the "gain chain" problem.  It depends a bit on how you are set up 
but try the following.  Go into the menu on the K3S and turn down the LIN OUT value.  I 
have mine set at 2 I believe.  Once you do this you should be able to more finely control 
the drive level.

This is likely to fix your problem at once.

AL7CR

On Sun, Feb 2, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Lee Murrah via Elecraft wrote:

I am running WSJT-X in FT8 mode on my K3S using the onboard sound card
and USB cable and VOX for keying. My computer is a Mac running
Catalina. The K3S manual recommends setting the drive at 4 or 5 bars to
avoid distortion by the ALC.. When I use the audio output slider set
the drive level, the display jumps from no bars to 6 bars, and vice
versa, and nothing on between.  I have also tried using the MIC level
and the POWER slider in FT8 with the same results.  The software id
decoding fine. Can anyon suggest what the problem might be?

KV5M
Lee
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay

[stephen shearer]

One of the software projects I worked on...  The lead eng reported it 
will be done in two weeks, for about six weeks.  Then WE looked at 
what/how we were doing the job and took a different approach.  it WAS 
done in two weeks, but needed six weeks of data (micro code) entry.  An 
intern did the data entry.


I don't see (from what I read) the delay being a software/firmware 
issue, but a hardware supply issue.  AND, I would like to see the 
supplier getting the product right (no replacements needed).


I did get "the" K4 email today.

*73, steve WB3LGC*

I see "this" as an opportunity for the "Easter Bunny" to bring a K4 
upgrade from a K4 to a K4D...


On 1/16/20 3:19 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:

Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
So "bug-free" is impossible.

Gwen, NG3P


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Re: [Elecraft] CW skimmer

[stephen shearer]

OK, I am most likely late to the discussion...

Yes, it would be nice to have all the software under the hood. But, I 
know I am going to need a computer for Fldigi, wsjt-x, and js8call. So I 
might as well add skimmer there (if I want it) too. I don't use skimmer 
now.  I like contests but I want a slower pace.  Beside at my QTH, just 
entering a contest almost guarantees first place (not quite, but 
almost).  I also like keeping my software up to date and by putting it 
"in the box" I will loose that control.  I "see" a USB connection to the 
computer a simple interface.  The LAN connection should provide even 
more capability (1G ??).


Since my shack computer will not be W10, I hope function software for 
the K4 will be Linux compatible (as it has been for K3's).  I moved from 
W10 to "windows" Mint in 2019 and haven't looked back. I have also been 
using a Raspberry Pi with my KX3 for wsjt-x as a remote station (remote 
to living room) and it works very well...


I wish all a Happy New Year (as tomorrow is "January"...)

73, steve WB3LGC


back to my research on a computer for the shack as my KX3 portable ops 
have been using a laptop and I want the K4 to be a fixed station.

I may continue with the Raspberry Pi, to begin, as it works...

On 12/31/19 9:28 AM, Rich wrote:

The RTTY skimmer would be nice, also!

HNY

Rich

K3RWN

On 12/30/2019 23:50 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

This is very much in the plan.

Wayne



On Dec 30, 2019, at 4:07 PM, E.H. Russell  wrote:

As a developer very familiar with connecting SDR radios with CW 
Skimmer, the best hope for a connection with the K4 is to stream the 
K4 IQ data to a PC running Windows, and have a 3rd party app 
negotiate that data along with other information such as frequency 
to CW Skimmer. This depends on access to the K4 API. I’m hoping to 
be able to develop such an app.

  Thanks,
73 Ed w2rf



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Re: [Elecraft] Reaching Across the Chronological Divide

[stephen shearer]

Walter,

Someone did comment (maybe a different thread/group) about reading 
Scouter and Boys Life at the barber shop and noted that ARRL has NO ads 
about radio in the mags.  He or someone else noted that SWL mags have no 
ARRL ads, either...


I think ARRL has "missed the boat"...

ARRL has flyers for DIY, but no "push" to the youth to go along with it.

Radio Merit Badge does at least provide a sample of ham radio...

73/YIS, Steve WB3LGC

On 12/24/19 1:06 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

Interesting that nobody has yet mentioned Scouting and Jamboree on the Air 
(JOTA).

Here is an article about a troop using amateur radio to coordinate dispersed 
camping groups and train for em-comm.

https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2019/12/24/assistant-scoutmasters-help-scouts-get-trained-to-be-amateur-radio-operators/

A troop in our area uses radios to allow groups of older youth to hike in 
separate groups. The fast group (always the youth, oddly) checks in every 15 
minutes. If they can’t make contact, they stop until they can. With a license, 
they can switch from FRS/GMRS to amateur bands and hike with a bigger gap.

JOTA is on the third full weekend of October every year. This year, we had over 
9000 Scouts participate in the US.

https://k2bsa.net/jota-usa-reports/

 From running a JOTA station a couple of times, I believe that prospective hams 
have just as wide a range of interests as active hams. We need a shotgun 
approach with each pellet (metaphor falling apart here) being someone who is 
excited about that activity. You don’t have to be an expert—I ran the “send 
your name in Morse Code” station and I’m not a CW operator—but you do need to 
represent how that activity could be exciting.

Hands on, do everything hands on. No butts in seats for PowerPoint. Anybody 
ever say “I think I’ll go home and watch a nice PowerPoint preso tonight”?

Here are some photos from our JOTA station this year. I’m the guy with the 
white hair. Oh, that doesn’t help. White hair and beard. Note the empty log 
sheet in front of the KX-line. HF was pretty dead. Must do digital modes next 
year.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/walter_underwood/albums/72157711437854946

wunder
K6WRU
Walter Underwood
Radio Scouting Chair, Pacific Skyline Council
http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/walterunderwood/


On Dec 23, 2019, at 9:59 PM, donov...@starpower.net wrote:

Eric,


If you've grown tired of the usual awards, there's the "Alphabet Sandwich"
Call Letter Award. See page 4:


https://ftp.unpad.ac.id/orari/orari-diklat/pemula/organisasi/internasional/REG%203/JAPAN.pdf


73
Frank
W3LPL

- Original Message -

From: "Eric J" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 6:56:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Reaching Across the Chronological Divide

I mean this sincerely. I'm NOT in grumpy-old-man mode, though I can do that 
very well. The majority of QSOs with new people are about as interesting, 
enduring and deep as a short chat in the checkout line at Safeway. Many aren't 
even that interesting. PSK ops just throw on a brag tape and walk away. It's a 
pleasant few minutes, but it rarely leads to anything more. It does happen, but 
who in their right mind would spend thousands of dollars and hours on the 
outside chance it does? The opportunity for superficial chit chat with 
strangers was NEVER on my mind at 14 when I got interested in ham radio so it's 
a bit much to expect teenagers today to care about that.

Ham radio has always been chock full of quick award-qualifying or contest 
contacts. Worked All Continents, countries, states, provinces, counties, grids, 
lighthouses, summits, guys named Fred. Go back as far as you want in QST and 
it's full of honor rolls, contest results...and SKs. It's nothing new to this 
period in ham radio. But ham radio has also been full of interesting challenges 
too. It's never been a very homogeneous hobby. I have no predictions except 
things are rapidly changing and that will continue in whatever direction those 
entering the hobby take it. The Baofeng Techs will change it as much as us 
Heathkit Kids did. Change is good.

Eric KE6US

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Re: [Elecraft] Reaching Across the Chronological Divide

[stephen shearer]

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x6x_6mDVlQ from the RSGB in UK.
See all the YOUTH...
ARRL has missed the "boat"...

73, steve WB3LGC

On 12/23/19 6:24 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Hmmm ... the 2018 Annual Report is on  the ARRL site and it contains 
membership data thru the end of that year.  At any rate, ARRL 
membership numbers [both total and % of ham population] have been 
declining for a number of years.


>Who validated your 83.295%, Fred?

The phrase and number were coined by one of my former bosses.  In 
keeping with the phrase, I think he made the number up, I could always 
count on him to be scrupulously consistent.  I would be 
extraordinarily surprised if anyone validated the number and given 
news from Washington DC these days, I think it may be low. [:=)


73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/23/2019 2:44 PM, KENT TRIMBLE wrote:
The 170,00 figure is dated January, 2016, and is the latest available 
from the ARRL website.


http://www.arrl.org/arrl-fact-sheet

Who validated your 83.295%, Fred?

73,

Kent  K9ZTV


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Re: [Elecraft] Latest rumors on K4

[stephen shearer]

I agree the field testing is a very important step for both the rig and 
the manual.

A step that should take as long as it takes...
Software bugs are one thing but finding hardware issues are better found 
before the  product starts shipping mode.
I am sure I am at the end of the shipping list, so I hope to see the 
manual (on line) long before I see the rig...


I don't remember the kickoff of the KX3.
I didn't purchase mine until ~1+ year after shipping started.
I wanted to be sure all was OK...
This time, why wait.
I was thinking about a K3s last year but "something" put me off ordering.
I am glad I waited as all the "options" are included and I can add 
"stuff" like the upgrade to K4D etc.

Can "anyone" say Christmas 2020?

I am amused by the creative financing method used by Elecraft. (smart)
Where else would you find "investors" loan the operating capital at zero 
interest for almost a year and to have only ever seen? serial 001 of the 
product.
You will also note the "1st Shipping Group" is still open for orders 
(the real capital).
And "and are targeting our first deliveries for January 2020." has 
deliveries (plural) so, at least 2 K4's will be delivered by Jan 31st...
Waiting... as long as it isn't "Christmas in July"...  on the 
other-hand, I might be able to convince my wife to upgrade to a K4D, by 
then.


73, steve WB3LGC

On 12/21/19 12:55 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Steve,

Unless the K4 is being done differently than all other Elecraft 
transceivers, the manual will only be available until after the 
completion of Field Test.

One of the purposes of Field Test is to refine the manual.

While the K4 does contain a processor, it is dedicated to the K4 and 
its functions, so don't expect anything like a PC or other general 
purpose computer.
You will be able to download firmware updates, but I don't know if a 
separate PC will be required - I expect it will, so don't throw out 
your shack computer.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/21/2019 12:26 PM, stephen shearer wrote:
OK, January is fine as it's only 10+ days away...  AND yes, Jan 31st 
is only 5+ weeks.
(Joe, I bet as a kid you had no problem waiting for your gifts at 
Christmas or other big holidays...)
what I am waiting for is the manual.  It will/should answer many of 
my questions.

Maybe before the K4 is shipped?

Like, with a LAN connection on the K4 and an internal PC (of some 
sort) will I be able to download updates direct to the K4?
or, will I need a separate PC and use the USB port on K4 to do the 
admin "stuff" ?
There are plenty of single board computers that would fit the need, 
if required.
I expect to use a SBC for FT8 and JS8, as it works nice now on my KX3 
w/amp (as needed).



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Re: [Elecraft] Latest rumors on K4

[stephen shearer]

OK, January is fine as it's only 10+ days away...  AND yes, Jan 31st is 
only 5+ weeks.
(Joe, I bet as a kid you had no problem waiting for your gifts at 
Christmas or other big holidays...)
what I am waiting for is the manual.  It will/should answer many of my 
questions.

Maybe before the K4 is shipped?

Like, with a LAN connection on the K4 and an internal PC (of some sort) 
will I be able to download updates direct to the K4?
or, will I need a separate PC and use the USB port on K4 to do the admin 
"stuff" ?
There are plenty of single board computers that would fit the need, if 
required.
I expect to use a SBC for FT8 and JS8, as it works nice now on my KX3 
w/amp (as needed).


73, steve WB3LGC  (waiting for my Christmas and my birthday "gift" = 
K4...   wife approved)


On 12/20/19 5:52 PM, Nr4c wrote:

Web site still says January 2020. One out on the 31st satisfys that.  Remember 
the KX3?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Dec 20, 2019, at 10:49 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr  wrote:

Howdy Gang.

Has anyone picked up any intel from the Mother Ship on the K4 delivery schedule?

Not much on the website lately on the subject.

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] THE FUTURE OF OUR HOBBY

[stephen shearer]

A VERY good video.  I use it with Scouts as my intro into JOTA (Jamboree 
on the Air) for the past few years.  Professionally done.  If is fast 
paced it does SHOW youth doing RADIO and it keeps the interest as it is 
only six minutes long   a very very good video.


73, steve WB3LGC

On 12/17/19 12:45 PM, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU) wrote:

https://youtu.be/8x6x_6mDVlQ “Amateur Radio - A 21st Century Hobby” produced by 
the RSGB

Sent from my iPad


On Dec 17, 2019, at 09:40, Kevin McQuiggin (SFU)  wrote:

The RSGB has an excellent ham radio overview video.  The target audience is 
people under about 30.  Everyone in the video is under ~25.  It presents the 
hobby in young peoples' terms using their terms and points of reference.  It 
covers public service, HF, V/UHF, contesting, satellites, lnternet 
connectivity, fox hunting, building stuff.  The best video I’ve seen to 
describe ham radio in modern terms to non- 50 or 60 year olds.

I will try to find the link.

73,

Kevin


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Re: [Elecraft] The Future of Our Hobby

[stephen shearer]

Kent, you didn't find the "correct" issue of Scouting, as JOTA is 
advertised every year as is K2BSA at the National Jamboree every four 
years.  See: https://www.scouting.org/jota/


73, steve WB3LGC

On 12/16/19 4:20 PM, K9ZTV wrote:

Went to the barber shop this morning.  Wide assortment of hunting, fishing, and 
gun magazines in the rack, along with a few copies of “Scouting” and “Boys 
Life.”

Picked those two and sat down for a leisurely read.  Hadn’t seen one in sixty 
years.  A real treat.  Proceeded to peruse every page of both periodicals.  
Enjoyed it immensely.  And then I didn’t.  Flipped through the pages a second 
time just to be sure.

Not one sentence about amateur radio.  Not one ad, not one picture, not one 
story.  Peewee Harris was still there.  Had a full page.  Scouts who saved 
lives were still there.  Covered two pages.  Lots of ink about backpacking, 
crime safety, tenting, geocaching, campouts, evironmentalism, relationship 
building, dog care and other worthy endeavors.  Zero ads for radios, 
signalling, SWLing, kit-building, satellite tracking, Morse Code, or electronic 
communications of any kind.

At the very minimum, I would have thought the $1000 I give the League every 
year might be capable of placing an ARRL logo and web address in those two 
youth journals ...  for the mildly curious ... but nothing.

I got a decent haircut, though.

73,

Kent  K9ZTV




On Dec 16, 2019, at 1:54 PM,  
 wrote:

A few quick thoughts on this subject.

Space exploration, colonization, and physics are the best "hooks" I see to
fish for the young people that are best prospects as future hams.

Amateur radio is the best way to "touch" the world beyond the earth and to
get a "hands on" understanding of solar physics, electronic equipment,
electromagnetic fields, solar weather, and the harsh environments that are
Intersolar and interstellar space.

Early involvement should come with hands on experiments, internships, summer
jobs, resume builders for college applications, and university work/study
programs in the communications, computer technology and defense industries.

A sequenced set of building block project kits (Elecraft style would be
ideal) that introduce basic principles and result in a receiver, a
transmitter, and an antenna could provide a gateway, and present hams should
underwrite making these available at a low cost and with available "Elmers"
to help. This equipment could be used for radio astronomy, communications,
physics experiments, meteorology, and contesting. Contesting should be
portrayed as glamorous "yacht racing in space" and much cooler than on the
ocean.

I believe we are at a second "Sputnik" point in the quest for the high
ground, and this is the time to grow more modern technologists, explorers,
and entrepreneurs and fewer snowflake philosophers and low information
consumers!

What do you think?

73 John N5CQ

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Re: [Elecraft] DZOTA: Dead Zones On The Air

[stephen shearer]

Don't forget the east coast "National Radio Quiet Zone (NRQZ)"...  I 
have a star party (https://www.ahsp.org/, on my list of things to do) 
and I checked on the use of HF radio in the zone.  Unless I was looking 
at the wrong place, you can use radio in the zone unless you are at the 
telescopes or UHF/microwave. I only found a reference to a "permit" for 
fixed ham station like repeaters.  Can you say East Coast Dead Zone...  
is there going to be a DZSOTA ??


73, steve WB3LGC

On 12/10/19 7:19 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 12/10/2019 3:34 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

I have a Dead Zone inside my house.
I live in a stucco clad house with the stucco laid on wire mesh - it 
is an effective Faraday shield.  We do not have good cell phone 
reception inside the house


Thanks to the "tin-hat brigade, we have an even worse situation here 
in the Santa Cruz Mountains -- no cell coverage at all. For years, 
this kept me from a smart phone, but I now know this was a very bad 
decision. Many reasons why, but mainly that they work for internet 
access on WiFi, they function as a pretty nice "ad hoc" camera, while 
on the road (and waiting in a doctor's office) I have access to news 
outlets of my choice via my cell data plan or the office's guest WiFi.


We buy our cell service from Page Plus Cellular, a third party company 
reselling Verizon service at monthly Pay As You Go rates for the 
amount of data that we need. For us, 2GB/month is more than we're 
likely to need except when traveling, at a cost of about 
$30/phone/month. Accounts are flexible, so it's no big thing to buy 
more data in months we might be traveling. The Motorola phones we 
bought about three years ago cost us about $350 each.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help

[stephen shearer]

YES, on my KX3.. I have seen (when I change modes, often) that I have 
zero ALC (not 4/5 bars).  IF I turn the mike gain up, still zero.  AT 
THIS POINT, I turn the mike gain to zero and start turning it up.  The 
mike gain was too high and starting over works...  FT8 is working 
again.  I also run wsjt-x with 20db att so that I have "range" with the 
mike gain.  OR what ever it might be with the K3...


73, steve WB3LGC

On 11/13/19 7:39 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Tony,

Soundcard problem or K3 problem.  This is most commonly a problem with 
audio into the K3.


How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter?  It should be 4 with the 
5th bar flashing.  If not, look at the audio levels.


See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X, 
v2.0.1

when I no longer would get power out.

WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. 
The K3
keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is 
talking to
the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding and when I 
go into
Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green. When I hit TUNE on 
WSJT it

turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4: savable profiles?

[stephen shearer]

Joe, welcome to "Elecraft" and Mint...

I have been using Mint since March ??   I used another form of Linus 
with another laptop.  Liked it but don't remember why I went back to W7 
(then).
Not new to computers, just tired of W10 messing my system settings.  I 
think I update Mint a few times a week but since it doesn't mess things, 
all goes well.


I am currently using my KX3 with a "headless" Raspberry Pi running 
wsjt-x for FT8.  I was in the kitchen this morning, stuffing the turkey 
and operating FT8 80m on my laptop with a VNC link to the "shack"...  
Yes, any excuse to eat.  My parents, parents, parents... did come to the 
"new" world on the Mayflower back in 1620, so it IS required and my 
father said that his side of the family was here to meet and help the 
new settlers...


I have enjoyed the Elecraft rigs.  I built a 10w K2, I have the 
KX3/PX3/amp(what ever the number is), and looking forward to having a 
"full time" shack radio.  The KX3 combo will become my full time 
portable rig, no shack time...



The reflector is a great place to ask questions...


73, steve WB3LGC


On 11/28/19 9:00 AM, Joseph Street wrote:


Hi Steve


I saw your comment about Linux mint.  Just this week I installed it 
which is my first experience with Linux but like you I am just fed up 
with windows calling the shots on me all the time.  I may need to pick 
your brain one day, I think this used KX3/PX3 and amp combo I just got 
is all up to date firmware wise (the previous owner says) but I'm sure 
one day I'm going to want to connect things to my PC.



Best regards and happy holidays

Joe ve3vxo


*From:* elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
 on behalf of stephen shearer 


*Sent:* November 27, 2019 7:59:34 PM
*To:* Wayne Burdick
*Cc:* Elecraft Reflector
*Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] K4: savable profiles?
Wayne, HAVE a great Thanksgiving...

I wasn't "knocking" the K4 (I have one on order)...

I would like to see my KX3/PX3 etc. utilities for my laptop (Linux Mint)
easier to load.
But, I do need to sit down and figure out how to load them as it is more
than a double-click.
I may not have been clear.
I am tired of W10...

I do like the idea of initialization files for different usage (contest,
DX, casual), if different.
One click to re-set all the settings, although I always just set the KX3
and operated...
Although, it would be nice to be able to save all the settings (mike,
AF, Power, etc) for my FT8 stuff and a different set of settings for 
SSB...

"Although" pen-paper works, too.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 11/27/19 7:06 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> No K4 user will ever have to use -- or even see -- a Linux command. 
The embedded computer is there to make things simpler, and the 
operating system will not be something you need to be conscious of. 
That includes software updates.

>
> Any internal "apps" (advanced software functions) will be 100% 
vetted by Elecraft and a team of intrepid pre-testers before it 
appears in a software update package. You'll know you have a new 
function available when it appears on a switch selection or in the 
menu; you won't have to explicitly install it.

>
> Think of the K4 as a Hybrid SDR for Non-Nerds (tm). You can stay 
focused on exploring the bands, working DX, and experimenting with new 
modes.

>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>> On Nov 27, 2019, at 12:38 PM, stephen shearer 
 wrote:

>>
>> Yes, that would be nice...
>>
>> What I want to see (for ALL) utilities is the ability to load into 
Linux without having to compile the utility (I understand .deb files)

>> Many Linux users are NOT geeks.  I just wanted to get away from W10...
>> OR have good directions on how to load into the most popular 
distributions like Mint.
>> xsjt-x loads very easily; .deb files load even on a Raspberry Pi - 
Elecraft could too.

>>
>> I like the KX3/PX3/amp utility but the K3s/K4 "machine" is more 
sophisticated and NEEDS a more advanced utility, being able to save 
"setup" init files.

>> It would be a nice addition for the KX line too.
>>
>> 73, steve WB3LGC
>>
>> On 11/27/19 2:47 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>>> This would be a nice feature, but, I would rather have the ability 
to save mic settings like which port, gain, compression, bias and free 
response settings. At least three or four (or more) mic profiles would 
be mice.

>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 27, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Doug Turnbull  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear OMs and YLs,
>>>> Even if this could be done in the K4 Utility it would be 
useful.   This
>>>> facility might even be better in the Utility if thi

Re: [Elecraft] K4: savable profiles?

[stephen shearer]

Wayne, HAVE a great Thanksgiving...

I wasn't "knocking" the K4 (I have one on order)...

I would like to see my KX3/PX3 etc. utilities for my laptop (Linux Mint) 
easier to load.
But, I do need to sit down and figure out how to load them as it is more 
than a double-click.

I may not have been clear.
I am tired of W10...

I do like the idea of initialization files for different usage (contest, 
DX, casual), if different.
One click to re-set all the settings, although I always just set the KX3 
and operated...
Although, it would be nice to be able to save all the settings (mike, 
AF, Power, etc) for my FT8 stuff and a different set of settings for SSB...

"Although" pen-paper works, too.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 11/27/19 7:06 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

No K4 user will ever have to use -- or even see -- a Linux command. The 
embedded computer is there to make things simpler, and the operating system 
will not be something you need to be conscious of. That includes software 
updates.

Any internal "apps" (advanced software functions) will be 100% vetted by 
Elecraft and a team of intrepid pre-testers before it appears in a software update 
package. You'll know you have a new function available when it appears on a switch 
selection or in the menu; you won't have to explicitly install it.

Think of the K4 as a Hybrid SDR for Non-Nerds (tm). You can stay focused on 
exploring the bands, working DX, and experimenting with new modes.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Nov 27, 2019, at 12:38 PM, stephen shearer  wrote:

Yes, that would be nice...

What I want to see (for ALL) utilities is the ability to load into Linux 
without having to compile the utility (I understand .deb files)
Many Linux users are NOT geeks.  I just wanted to get away from W10...
OR have good directions on how to load into the most popular distributions like 
Mint.
xsjt-x loads very easily; .deb files load even on a Raspberry Pi - Elecraft 
could too.

I like the KX3/PX3/amp utility but the K3s/K4 "machine" is more sophisticated and NEEDS a 
more advanced utility, being able to save "setup" init files.
It would be a nice addition for the KX line too.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 11/27/19 2:47 PM, Nr4c wrote:

This would be a nice feature, but, I would rather have the ability to save mic 
settings like which port, gain, compression, bias and free response settings. 
At least three or four (or more) mic profiles would be mice.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Nov 27, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Doug Turnbull  wrote:

Dear OMs and YLs,
Even if this could be done in the K4 Utility it would be useful.   This
facility might even be better in the Utility if this helped to keep the
radio user friendly.   Boy, this list goes on and on but it is good just the
same.   We are all writing our letters to Santa.

   73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Harper
Sent: 27 November 2019 17:27
To: Elecraft list
Subject: [Elecraft] K4: savable profiles?

Will the K4 have the ability to save (and then select from) various
"profiles" so that a user can go from, say, 20m 100-watt CW to 80m 10-watt
FT8 with all the saved settings (power, mode, bandwidth, audio in/out
levels) taking effect simply by selecting the chosen profile?



Tnx/73,


John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K4: savable profiles?

[stephen shearer]

Yes, that would be nice...

What I want to see (for ALL) utilities is the ability to load into Linux 
without having to compile the utility (I understand .deb files)

Many Linux users are NOT geeks.  I just wanted to get away from W10...
OR have good directions on how to load into the most popular 
distributions like Mint.
xsjt-x loads very easily; .deb files load even on a Raspberry Pi - 
Elecraft could too.


I like the KX3/PX3/amp utility but the K3s/K4 "machine" is more 
sophisticated and NEEDS a more advanced utility, being able to save 
"setup" init files.

It would be a nice addition for the KX line too.

73, steve WB3LGC

On 11/27/19 2:47 PM, Nr4c wrote:

This would be a nice feature, but, I would rather have the ability to save mic 
settings like which port, gain, compression, bias and free response settings. 
At least three or four (or more) mic profiles would be mice.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Nov 27, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Doug Turnbull  wrote:

Dear OMs and YLs,
Even if this could be done in the K4 Utility it would be useful.   This
facility might even be better in the Utility if this helped to keep the
radio user friendly.   Boy, this list goes on and on but it is good just the
same.   We are all writing our letters to Santa.

   73 Doug EI2CN

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Harper
Sent: 27 November 2019 17:27
To: Elecraft list
Subject: [Elecraft] K4: savable profiles?

Will the K4 have the ability to save (and then select from) various
"profiles" so that a user can go from, say, 20m 100-watt CW to 80m 10-watt
FT8 with all the saved settings (power, mode, bandwidth, audio in/out
levels) taking effect simply by selecting the chosen profile?



Tnx/73,


John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com
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[Elecraft] Tony CW transceiver for socially isolated kids

[Dr Stephen E Dubin via Elecraft]

I have seen advertisements for FRS walkie talkies with Morse code. It may be 
done using the PTT   button, but I'm pretty sure there is a tone.  Price was 
about 12.95 per pair.  Just a thought.

73 De W3UEC (Steve Dubin)
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[Elecraft] Reflected power

[Stephen Rabinowitz]

Many thanks to all of those who responded to my message and shared their
experiences and thoughts: Dave WO2X, Mike VA3MW, Bob K4TAX, Jim K9YC, Victor
4X6GP, and Alan N1AL. With a dummy antenna (Cantenna) on 7MHz, and a 1.1:1
match, using 10w drive the KPA-1500 puts out 605w at first, then settles
down two seconds later to 384w with 8w reflected power. With 25w drive, the
initial output is 1431w, settling down to 1105w after two seconds, with 20w
reflected power. So, the fault seems to be in the antenna, not in the
amplifier.
The same initial power surge occurs on 14MHz using the dummy antenna. I
don't know if it originates in the transceiver or the amplifier, but it
doesn't have much effect on reflected power except with the defective
antenna. Answering some of the questions that were posed, the double bazooka
in this case is the high power version from Radiowavz, two years old. A
common mode choke from DX Engineering sits between the end of the feed coax
and the antenna. Several Mix 31 snap-on chokes from Palomar are on various
short coax jumpers in the shack, and the ground system is very good.
The double bazookas I use on 80m and 30m work well and are from
iacantennas.com. I am ordering a 40m version from them to replace the one
that seems to be faulty. I will try to report the result after I install it.
Many thanks again to all,
73, Steve K2SN

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[Elecraft] Reflected power

[Stephen Rabinowitz]

My KPA-1500 switches from operate to standby due to reflected power more
than 200w whenever drive power exceeds about 8 watts on 7 MHz. The forward
power at that point is about 400w. The antenna is a double bazooka that
shows an SWR of about 1.2 on a RigExpert AA-230Pro antenna analyzer. A
Telepost LP-100A digital wattmeter shows SWR 1.3 with Z=52, R=49, Ph=17, and
X=15. The KP1500 tunes to an SWR of what it labels 1.1 on that frequency.
The latest firmware, version 2.27 is installed. This problem does not occur
with double bazooka antennas on 80m or 30m, or with Yagis from 20m to 6m. It
seems to me that there is a brief surge in reflected power at the very onset
of the transmission that triggers the response, but that the reflected power
quickly decreases to normal levels of just a few watts. Any ideas for
dealing with this problem would be much appreciated.
73, Steve K2SN

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 & FT8

[stephen shearer]

I use a "Sound Blaster" USB card.  $40 works with W10 and Linux.
https://www.amazon.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-System-SB1290/dp/B0044DEDC0?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q=duckduckgo-d-20=xm2=2025=165953=B0044DEDC0

73, steve WB3LGC

On 5/22/19 3:16 PM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

I've tried to use the Sabrent sound dongle twice and given up in
frustration each time.  Not sure why, but I might try again to save my
sanity.

The SignaLink is the only sound modem that works for me, and I have one on
my desk and one in my go-bag.

On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 3:12 PM Neil Zampella  wrote:


The only problem is this configuration uses a Signalink, which is really
not needed with a KX2 or KX3.   A cheap Sabrent sound dongle ($15 or
less) from Amazon works great, and keeps the computer sounds separate
from the WSJT-X audio output.   CAT control would be through the KXUSB
cable.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 5/22/2019 8:30 AM, John Harper wrote:
https://outbackofbeyond.wordpress.com/2017/07/23/kx2-digital-modes-configuration-examples/

John AE5X
https://ae5x.blogspot.com


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[Elecraft] MD2 microphone

[Stephen Prior]

I don't know whether anyone can help, but I am trying without any success
to get the MD2 microphone working with a SunSdr2 transceiver, which is able
to provide the necessary bias voltage I believe.  What I am lacking, and
have not been able to find online is the original manual for the microphone
giving pinout and bias details - for I'm sure that there is something that
I must have missed.

Thanks and 73,

Stephen G4SJP
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Re: [Elecraft] Interfacing SunSDR2 pro to KPA500/KAT500

[Stephen Prior]

I have just realised that I asked this question before - sorry, thought it
was on another reflector!

73 Stephen G4SJP

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 15:10, Stephen Prior  wrote:

> I would be interested to know if anyone has got their head around using
> the SunSDR's DB15 accessory connector to switch and provide band
> information to the KPA500?  I have tried but I've had no success!
>
> I know that I can use the RF sensing capability of the KPA500, as that's
> how I have it set up at the moment, but I am looking for a more elegant
> solution.
>
> Thanks and 73
>
> Stephen, G4SJP
>
> PS I have asked the same question on the Expert forum.
>
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[Elecraft] Interfacing SunSDR2 pro to KPA500/KAT500

[Stephen Prior]

I would be interested to know if anyone has got their head around using the
SunSDR's DB15 accessory connector to switch and provide band information to
the KPA500?  I have tried but I've had no success!

I know that I can use the RF sensing capability of the KPA500, as that's
how I have it set up at the moment, but I am looking for a more elegant
solution.

Thanks and 73

Stephen, G4SJP

PS I have asked the same question on the Expert forum.
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[Elecraft] Using SunSDR2 pro with KPA500

[Stephen Prior]

Does anyone have any experience of fully interfacing this SDR with the
KPA500 please?  I confess to be rather confused.  I am looking to configure
the Ext Ctrl tables with the BCD values that the KPA500 requires for band
switching etc.  I understand what BCD is, but in this context I'm confused
as to how to define it in the SDR's setup.

Thanks and 73

Stephen, G4SJP
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Re: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey

[Stephen Shearer]

Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it???

steve WB3LGC/NR3I

On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote:

A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not aware 
Beofeng made an HF radio.

Very disappointed.

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] Craziest / most rewarding QSOs

[Stephen Dubin via Elecraft]

Rather apropos to the current season, I remember a particularly rewarding QSO 
that I had a couple of years ago during a severe linear windstorm (derecho?). 
Our mains power had been out for about 18 hours. I fired  up my KX1 (on 
internal batteries, it reported a mighty 1.8 watts into my OCF up 15' on 20 m.) 
at about 20:00. My CQ call was answered by a gentlemen in Ohio who identified 
himself as a clergy person. After comforting me with compliments about how good 
my signal was, he ended the QSO by wishing me, "May God richly bless you and 
give you light." About 15 seconds, the lights came back on.

VY 73 de W3UEC (Steve Dubin)

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are occupied

[Stephen Rector via Elecraft]

I'm following up here with the verified solution to my issue.

To recap - When I used a KXSER cable to connect my KXPA/KX3 to my Ciro Mazzoni 
Magloop antenna controller, that left no port available for me to control the 
KX3 with RS232 using the program FLRig. The best solution I found was to use a 
DB9 Y-connector in conjunction with a breakout board for the DB9 branch going 
to the antenna controller. On that board, I patched only the RXD and ground 
lines: pins 2 and 5, from input to output.

With this configuration, the Antenna controller has its TXD pin left 
unconnected. As many here noted, this is of necessity since only one TXD driver 
can exist on a common TXD line. So, for the controller to work, FLRig must be 
running and connected to the radio. Since FLRig polls the KX3 control 
parameters, the Antenna controller receives the VFO data it needs on its RXD 
line. Apparently it doesn't matter that the controller is not doing the 
polling, as long as something else is.

If I wanted to return polling autonomy to the antenna controller, I would have 
to disconnect the Y-junction. But I think I will keep things in place. Just 
because FLRig is running on the computer, doesn't mean that I can't use the KX3 
standalone as I usually have in the past. So this is an acceptable solution. 
I'll probably post it on Ciro Mazzoni's user site for others' benefit.

Thanks all for the help and pointers!

73,

Steve, NU7B


> On Jul 8, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Sorry about the pin typo.  Look at the cable link for the steppIR that Dick 
> K6KR sent and that will be obvious.  I was looking at that diagram when I 
> typed my response, but did not proof it.
> TXD is really pin 3.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 7/8/2018 7:24 PM, Stephen Rector wrote:
>> Don:
>> I tried a 3.5mm Y-connector at the KXPA and this did not work. But based on 
>> your feedback and also that of N6TV, I see that I have multiple TX drivers 
>> on the TXD line. Even if there is no TX from the antenna controller, the 
>> low-impedance of its TXD driver will load the line. Bob also thinks the 
>> controller may be polling for info, much like the program FLRIG does. One 
>> correction to your info Don, I think TXD is pin 3 on the DB-9, and not pin 2.
>> The KXSER cable DB9 shell appears to be molded - it's not obvious how to 
>> disassemble it. So I will need to go into the controller to disconnect TXD 
>> there. I'll report back on whether or not that works, next weekend.
>> 73,
>> Steve, NU7B
>>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> 
>>> Yes, since you are using both the KXUSB and the KXSER cables, a "Y" at the 
>>> KXPA100 would serve you well.
>>> If your magloop controller also attempts to transmit, you can remove the 
>>> connection to pin 2 on the DE9 end of the KXSER cable (just remove the 
>>> backshell and disconnect the wire).
>>> 
>>> RS-232 multiplexors are complicated devices and require the use of the full 
>>> RS-232 bus (mainly DTR and CTS signals) to handle the handshaking signals.  
>>> The 3 conductor KX3/KXPA100 wiring will not provide the proper handshaking 
>>> signals.
>>> The handshaking signals are not provided from the data stream (as they are 
>>> in Ethernet and other communications protocols), but from the explicit 
>>> signals separate from TXD and RTS.
>>> 
>>> Note that the KX3 (and most other Elecraft products) rely only on TXD and 
>>> RTS, which are reserved for data transmission only in the RS-232 scheme of 
>>> things.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
>>> On 7/8/2018 4:56 PM, Stephen Rector wrote:
>>>> Hi Don:
>>>> Yes - it occurred to me after sending the post that I might be able to 
>>>> create the split at the KXPA with a stereo Y-cable/connector. I am using a 
>>>> KXUSB to the computer, with a KXSER cable going from the the antenna 
>>>> controller to the KXPA. It is the KXUSB that presently has no place to 
>>>> connect to.
>>>> So - I think I can try a 3.5mm stereo y-junction at the KXPA. Hopefully 
>>>> impedances won't be an issue at 38400 baud...
>>>> I did look for RS232 multiplexers - they seem to exist for industrial 
>>>> applications. The documentation seemed to be sparse on the web.
>>>> Anyway - thanks for the pointer :)
>>>> 73,
>>>> Steve NU7B
>>>>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you using the KXUSB to connect with the 

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are occupied

[Stephen Rector via Elecraft]

Don:

I tried a 3.5mm Y-connector at the KXPA and this did not work. But based on 
your feedback and also that of N6TV, I see that I have multiple TX drivers on 
the TXD line. Even if there is no TX from the antenna controller, the 
low-impedance of its TXD driver will load the line. Bob also thinks the 
controller may be polling for info, much like the program FLRIG does. One 
correction to your info Don, I think TXD is pin 3 on the DB-9, and not pin 2.

The KXSER cable DB9 shell appears to be molded - it's not obvious how to 
disassemble it. So I will need to go into the controller to disconnect TXD 
there. I'll report back on whether or not that works, next weekend.

73,

Steve, NU7B


> On Jul 8, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Yes, since you are using both the KXUSB and the KXSER cables, a "Y" at the 
> KXPA100 would serve you well.
> If your magloop controller also attempts to transmit, you can remove the 
> connection to pin 2 on the DE9 end of the KXSER cable (just remove the 
> backshell and disconnect the wire).
> 
> RS-232 multiplexors are complicated devices and require the use of the full 
> RS-232 bus (mainly DTR and CTS signals) to handle the handshaking signals.  
> The 3 conductor KX3/KXPA100 wiring will not provide the proper handshaking 
> signals.
> The handshaking signals are not provided from the data stream (as they are in 
> Ethernet and other communications protocols), but from the explicit signals 
> separate from TXD and RTS.
> 
> Note that the KX3 (and most other Elecraft products) rely only on TXD and 
> RTS, which are reserved for data transmission only in the RS-232 scheme of 
> things.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 7/8/2018 4:56 PM, Stephen Rector wrote:
>> Hi Don:
>> Yes - it occurred to me after sending the post that I might be able to 
>> create the split at the KXPA with a stereo Y-cable/connector. I am using a 
>> KXUSB to the computer, with a KXSER cable going from the the antenna 
>> controller to the KXPA. It is the KXUSB that presently has no place to 
>> connect to.
>> So - I think I can try a 3.5mm stereo y-junction at the KXPA. Hopefully 
>> impedances won't be an issue at 38400 baud...
>> I did look for RS232 multiplexers - they seem to exist for industrial 
>> applications. The documentation seemed to be sparse on the web.
>> Anyway - thanks for the pointer :)
>> 73,
>> Steve NU7B
>>> On Jul 8, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> 
>>> Are you using the KXUSB to connect with the KXPA100/KX3, or are you using 
>>> the KXSER with a real computer serial port or a USB to serial adapter?
>>> 
>>> Since your magloop controller only 'sniffs', it means it should only listen 
>>> and never try to transmit on the RS-232 signal lines.  If it only listens, 
>>> there will be no collisons (RS-232 is not packet oriented, but an 
>>> asynchronous communications system).
>>> 
>>> If the magloop controller also transmits on the RS-232 bus, you will need 
>>> some external device to act as "traffic cop" - note that RS-232 is a point 
>>> to point system (unlike Ethernet and others) where there is one driver 
>>> device and one receiver at each end.
>>> 
>>> So yes, you can use a splitter - one with a 3.5mm stereo plug and two 3.5mm 
>>> stereo jacks if using the KXUSB.
>>> If you are using the KXSER cable instead, yes, you can connect a "Y" DB9 
>>> splitter to the DB9 end of the KXSER cable - the computer connects to one 
>>> side and the magloop controller connects to the other side of the "Y".
>>> 
>>> On 7/8/2018 3:31 PM, Stephen Rector via Elecraft wrote:
>>>> Hy home station is a KX3 + KPXA100, and I can control the radio via the 
>>>> RS232 port on the KXPA. However, recently I added a Ciro Mazzoni magloop 
>>>> to the station, and its controller plugs in to the KXPA serial port to 
>>>> sniff for frequency information, allowing re-tuning on the fly. This 
>>>> leaves no RS232 port left for remote control of the radio.
>>>> How do I modify this arrangement to add an extra serial port for KX3 
>>>> control? My first thought is that, since the antenna controller just 
>>>> sniffs for data, I could add a DB-9 Y-cable to provide the extra port at 
>>>> the controller serial port location. However, packets could still collide 
>>>> ...does the protocol handle this? Is there some sort of multiplexer 
>>>> available?

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are occupied

[Stephen Rector via Elecraft]

Hi Dick:

Thanks - the diagram makes things very clear. I initially didn't think of 
accomplishing the split at the KXPA 3.5mm connector, but it makes sense.

Thanks,  73,

Steve NU7B


> On Jul 8, 2018, at 1:38 PM, d...@elecraft.com wrote:
> 
> Typically "sniffers" don't have the TX side connected.  RS-232 can't have
> multiple transmitters on either wire.
> 
> This is done with SteppIR controller, for similar reasons.  SteppIR
> describes a splitter cable for DE-9 connectors. The same principle (with a
> much simpler cable, just tip and ring) applies to the 3.5mm connector to the
> KXPA100.
> 
> http://www.steppir.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Y-Cable.pdf
> 
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
> Behalf Of Stephen Rector via Elecraft
> Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 12:31
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are occupied
> 
> Hy home station is a KX3 + KPXA100, and I can control the radio via the
> RS232 port on the KXPA. However, recently I added a Ciro Mazzoni magloop to
> the station, and its controller plugs in to the KXPA serial port to sniff
> for frequency information, allowing re-tuning on the fly. This leaves no
> RS232 port left for remote control of the radio.
> 
> How do I modify this arrangement to add an extra serial port for KX3
> control? My first thought is that, since the antenna controller just sniffs
> for data, I could add a DB-9 Y-cable to provide the extra port at the
> controller serial port location. However, packets could still collide
> ...does the protocol handle this? Is there some sort of multiplexer
> available?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Steve
> 
> NU7B
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are occupied

[Stephen Rector via Elecraft]

Hi Don:

Yes - it occurred to me after sending the post that I might be able to create 
the split at the KXPA with a stereo Y-cable/connector. I am using a KXUSB to 
the computer, with a KXSER cable going from the the antenna controller to the 
KXPA. It is the KXUSB that presently has no place to connect to.

So - I think I can try a 3.5mm stereo y-junction at the KXPA. Hopefully 
impedances won't be an issue at 38400 baud...

I did look for RS232 multiplexers - they seem to exist for industrial 
applications. The documentation seemed to be sparse on the web.

Anyway - thanks for the pointer :)

73,

Steve NU7B


> On Jul 8, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Steve,
> 
> Are you using the KXUSB to connect with the KXPA100/KX3, or are you using the 
> KXSER with a real computer serial port or a USB to serial adapter?
> 
> Since your magloop controller only 'sniffs', it means it should only listen 
> and never try to transmit on the RS-232 signal lines.  If it only listens, 
> there will be no collisons (RS-232 is not packet oriented, but an 
> asynchronous communications system).
> 
> If the magloop controller also transmits on the RS-232 bus, you will need 
> some external device to act as "traffic cop" - note that RS-232 is a point to 
> point system (unlike Ethernet and others) where there is one driver device 
> and one receiver at each end.
> 
> So yes, you can use a splitter - one with a 3.5mm stereo plug and two 3.5mm 
> stereo jacks if using the KXUSB.
> If you are using the KXSER cable instead, yes, you can connect a "Y" DB9 
> splitter to the DB9 end of the KXSER cable - the computer connects to one 
> side and the magloop controller connects to the other side of the "Y".
> 
> On 7/8/2018 3:31 PM, Stephen Rector via Elecraft wrote:
>> Hy home station is a KX3 + KPXA100, and I can control the radio via the 
>> RS232 port on the KXPA. However, recently I added a Ciro Mazzoni magloop to 
>> the station, and its controller plugs in to the KXPA serial port to sniff 
>> for frequency information, allowing re-tuning on the fly. This leaves no 
>> RS232 port left for remote control of the radio.
>> How do I modify this arrangement to add an extra serial port for KX3 
>> control? My first thought is that, since the antenna controller just sniffs 
>> for data, I could add a DB-9 Y-cable to provide the extra port at the 
>> controller serial port location. However, packets could still collide 
>> ...does the protocol handle this? Is there some sort of multiplexer 
>> available?

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[Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are occupied

[Stephen Rector via Elecraft]

Hy home station is a KX3 + KPXA100, and I can control the radio via the RS232 
port on the KXPA. However, recently I added a Ciro Mazzoni magloop to the 
station, and its controller plugs in to the KXPA serial port to sniff for 
frequency information, allowing re-tuning on the fly. This leaves no RS232 port 
left for remote control of the radio.

How do I modify this arrangement to add an extra serial port for KX3 control? 
My first thought is that, since the antenna controller just sniffs for data, I 
could add a DB-9 Y-cable to provide the extra port at the controller serial 
port location. However, packets could still collide ...does the protocol handle 
this? Is there some sort of multiplexer available?

Thanks,

Steve

NU7B 
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Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

[Stephen Dubin via Elecraft]

Here is a link to the instructions from Signalink:
http://www.tigertronics.com/pgmsetup.htm#WSJT-X

Part of that file says:
WSJT-X

    Click File, then click Settings.
    In the new window that opens, click the General tab and enter your call in 
the My Call text box.
**  Click the Radio tab and select "None" in the Rig drop-down menu.  Select 
"Vox" as the PTT Method.  Note that your radio's VOX setting should be OFF.  
This setting simply allows the SignaLink USB to control PTT
    Click the Audio tab and select "USB Audio Codec" for both the Input and 
Output sound card.  If using Windows Vista/7/8.x/10, then you'll need to select 
 "Microphone - USB Audio Codec" for "Input" and "Speakers - USB Audio Codec" 
for "Output".
    Click the OK button to close the Settings window.
    Set the "PWR" slider on the WSJT-X main window (right-hand side of screen) 
to the second notch from the top (roughly -5.1db).  Note that if you lower this 
slider too much the SignaLink USB will NOT switch into transmit!  See details 
below.
    WSJT-X is a complex program so please take some time to read the WSJT-X 
users guide!

That is why I set VOX on in the Software, and off on my K3. Pretty much 
anything else generates an error box. What is confusing to me is that it worked 
OK this way before and only fails when my daughter is watching  :-{

73 de W3UEC (Steve, the mystified)

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 11:01 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)


Steve,

I believe setting VOX on in the software will not work unless you have
VOX turned on in the K3.
You can use PTT via CAT command in the software and leave VOX turned off
in the K3.
Alternately, turn VOX on in the K3 and tell the software that you are
using VOX in the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/5/2018 10:00 AM, Stephen Dubin wrote:
> TNX for prompt reply.
> As per "Wilhelm Doctrine,"  VOX is on in software. VOX is off in K3.
>
> 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Wilhelm 
> To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
> Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:20 am
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3,
> Signalink)
>
> Steve,
>
> I don't have a quick answer for you, BUT ---
> Understand that the TX light on the SignaLink only says that the
> SignaLink itself is producing audio.
>
> It detects the audio stream in the box itself and sets its TX light on.
>
> If the K3 TX light does not turn on, then investigate the station setup
> is initiating transmit. There are several possible ways (use only one
> or the K3 may get locked in transmit).
> Are you using PTT from the Signalink?
> Are you using VOX in the K3?
> Are you using PTT via CAT command from the software?
> Something else?
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 6/5/2018 8:57 AM, Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote:
> >
> > Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3,
> Signalink and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had
> trouble receiving. I made a shipload of contacts and decided to go
> back to CW. Recently my daughter (KM4UDF) who is recently licensed
> said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me FT8."  I used same settings as before
> -- as well as I can remember. I double checked using the "Wilhelm
> Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is good. Software has VOX
> on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went well with many
> CQ's and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" tab on
> WSJT, the red "TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will
> not transmit. Changing position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't
> help. Changing MIC on K3 made no difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1,
> Signalink has not been unplugged from K3 since time everything worked.
> Other modes (CW, Sideband) work fine.
> > My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires"
> when TUNE button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps
> should I take to see why K3 does not transmit now; although it did
> before. Is this a special curse on folks who swear off FT8 and then
> try to return?
> > TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)

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Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

[Stephen Dubin via Elecraft]

TNX for prompt reply.
As per "Wilhelm Doctrine,"  VOX is on in software. VOX is off in K3.

73 de W3UEC (Steve)


-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Stephen Dubin ; Elecraft 
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:20 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)


Steve,

I don't have a quick answer for you, BUT ---
Understand that the TX light on the SignaLink only says that the
SignaLink itself is producing audio.

It detects the audio stream in the box itself and sets its TX light on.

If the K3 TX light does not turn on, then investigate the station setup
is initiating transmit. There are several possible ways (use only one
or the K3 may get locked in transmit).
Are you using PTT from the Signalink?
Are you using VOX in the K3?
Are you using PTT via CAT command from the software?
Something else?

73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/5/2018 8:57 AM, Stephen Dubin via Elecraft wrote:
>
> Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3, Signalink 
> and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had trouble receiving. I 
> made a shipload of contacts and decided to go back to CW. Recently my 
> daughter (KM4UDF) who is recently licensed said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me 
> FT8."  I used same settings as before -- as well as I can remember. I double 
> checked using the "Wilhelm Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is 
> good. Software has VOX on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went 
> well with many CQ's and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" 
> tab on WSJT, the red "TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will 
> not transmit. Changing position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't help. 
> Changing MIC on K3 made no difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1, Signalink has 
> not been unplugged from K3 since time everything worked. Other modes (CW, 
> Sideband) work fine.
> My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires" when TUNE 
> button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps should I take to 
> see why K3 does not transmit now; although it did before. Is this a special 
> curse on folks who swear off FT8 and then try to return?
> TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
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[Elecraft] What to check when FT8 won't transmit (K3, Signalink)

[Stephen Dubin via Elecraft]

Just to see whether I like it (I didn't), I set up for FT8 with K3, Signalink 
and WSJT on Windows 10. I installed Meinberg when I had trouble receiving. I 
made a shipload of contacts and decided to go back to CW. Recently my daughter 
(KM4UDF) who is recently licensed said, "Aw C'mon Daddy, show me FT8."  I used 
same settings as before -- as well as I can remember. I double checked using 
the "Wilhelm Doctrine."   "Time,is"  says my system time is good. Software has 
VOX on and K3 has VOX off. Receiving (on 40 meters) went well with many CQ's 
and QSO's reported on the program. When I hit the "TUNE" tab on WSJT, the red 
"TX" light will light on the Signalink box, but K3 will not transmit. Changing 
position of "POWER" slider on software doesn't help. Changing MIC on K3 made no 
difference.Antenna SWR reads 1.1:1, Signalink has not been unplugged from K3 
since time everything worked. Other modes (CW, Sideband) work fine.
My main question is, "If receiving works OK and Signalink "fires" when TUNE 
button on software is hit, what (hopefully systematic) steps should I take to 
see why K3 does not transmit now; although it did before. Is this a special 
curse on folks who swear off FT8 and then try to return?
TNX for guidance to the perplexed. 73 de W3UEC (Steve)
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Re: [Elecraft] FT8 DXpedition Mode test.

[Stephen Shearer]

Don, OK I had to test this again and look at the manual.  I "thought" I 
tried shift but brain cells are getting old...


I used fldigi to see a nice 0-4K audio spectrum.
I went to 40m (shouldn't matter), set DATA A, set BW=4.0, Adjusted FC 
from low to high 1.28 to 1.64 with *1.5.
    FC ... If I change it over its full range the lowest it goes is 
375HZ (and that may be 10dB down?).

    If I change BW=3.0, same but High end varies.
    With BW=4.0, only high end varies.
    If I make BW=1.7, I can move low end up but not below the ~400HZ...

I have latest firmware, MCU 02.90 DSP 01.52

If I use USB...  BW=4.0 FC=*1.5  I have an audio range from 200Hz to 
3500Hz ??

I even went back and zeroed my RX EQ.
I guess I can't use DATA A with FT8 in DXpedition Mode.
It won't matter with other modes as only DXpedition mode needs RX at 
300Hz...

And I may have been the only one using a KX3 for the test?
*I think the answer is that the problem is not **with me, its firmware 
limits...*


The WSJT-X software does other "tricks" to move the TX freq keeping it 
within the TX bandpass, 1500Hz +/- 500Hz (it looked like...)  Note, not 
relative to "issue", just info.



BTW, thanks for all you do for the Elecraft community!

73, Steve WB3LGC


On 3/7/2018 1:42 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Stephen,

In DATA A, use the SHIFT (PBT II) to shift the passband down.
The widest passband is 3000 Hz. which is consistent with your 400 to 
3500 Hz observation.  I suggest shifting it to 150 to 3150 Hz. It will 
work fine for most soundcard data modes.


The K3/K3S has the same behavior, but it is not a problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/7/2018 11:47 AM, Stephen Shearer wrote:


8.   My KX3 with "Data A" has a wide bandpass of 400Hz to 3500Hz and
    shifting the RX down was not going to work with the software shift
    for the report, I "guess"...
9.   I changed my KX3 to USB, removed CMP and RX/TX audio EQ. The
    lower RX cut-off would receive the FOX on the assigned freq.
10.   I looked at the KX3 manual C5 for a way to set the passband low
    end cutoff while in Data A mode.  Nothing found.  Does the K3s have
    the same problem?




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[Elecraft] FT8 DXpedition Mode test.

[Stephen Shearer]

1.   I had fun.
2.   I read the Guide before, during, and after the test.
3.   I started to 20m and was confused.  Partly because I was not
   hearing the FOX and was seeing stations below 1K with "R-12" reports.
4. On 20m, it did not help that XE1GK was calling CQ on top of W1/KH7Z
   +/- 1HZ (I did see KH7Z a few times with reports).  Being in W3 I
   would not "expect" to hear a W1, but the XE1 was -1 to -15 didn't help.
5.   I saw CQ on 30m.  Since I could see both sides of the QSO, I was
   "starting" to figure out the change in freq to below 1K.
6.   On 30m, now that I was calling, I figured out the Split Operation
   Rig/Fake It set-up.  I changed to "Rig".
7.   On 30m, I realized, now that I could "see" the FOX that my RX
   bandpass did not cover 300Hz.
8.   My KX3 with "Data A" has a wide bandpass of 400Hz to 3500Hz and
   shifting the RX down was not going to work with the software shift
   for the report, I "guess"...
9.   I changed my KX3 to USB, removed CMP and RX/TX audio EQ.  The
   lower RX cut-off would receive the FOX on the assigned freq.
10.   I looked at the KX3 manual C5 for a way to set the passband low
   end cutoff while in Data A mode.  Nothing found.  Does the K3s have
   the same problem?
11.   On 40m, I now knew what was going on...  I heard the CQ, The FOX
   answered my GRID and the software moved me between 300Hz and 900HZ
   (the manual does say that) but until it happens, I was not sure what
   it meant. The FOX never "RR73" 'd me.  I was running 10 watts.
12.   On 80m it was the same as 40m.  I was running 15w (with a fan
   blowing on the heatsink).  I never finished a QSO.
13.   I had fun and thank you for the DXpedition effort.
14.   I need to see what Elecraft has to say about the "Data A" low freq
   cut-off setting...


73, steve WB3LGC

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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X Mystery File

[Stephen Shearer]

You might want to try the [wsjtgroup] on Yahoo... too.

73, steve WB3LGC


On 2/26/2018 6:49 PM, Richard wrote:

I found this little text file in WSJT-X’s log directory.




In case the file itself doesn’t go through, here’s the text, I hope:

Name Time   Frac dTime   dFracCalls
--
  decoder  1875.820  1.00   0.4960.00   1942
decft8   1875.324  1.00   9.4840.01   1942
sync8   116.719  0.06   116.7190.06   5816
ft8b1749.121  0.93   917.9260.49   752423
ft8_down   38.098  0.02 38.0980.02   752423
bpd174103.652  0.06   103.6520.06   405643
osd174 689.445  0.37   689.4450.37   352125
--
   1875.820  1.00

Can anyone interpret it for me? I’m thinking it may contain some information 
relevant to my transmit start/stop delays.

Cheers!

Richard Kunc — W4KBX



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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 & thumb drive... SD card works

[Stephen Shearer]

PX3 doesn't "seem" to have a size issue...  aka my 128M vs 16G thumb drive.
As I said I would, I tried an SD card (Class 10 and 16G) with a USB 
interface.
The SD card worked ("M" showed on the screen of the PX3) for both the 
USB2.0 and the USB3.0 interface device.
SO, something is different between the SD card with an USB interface and 
the USB "drive" even if both are FAT32 formatted...

See if "we" get any input from Elecraft as I also CC'd a PX3 developer.

73, steve WB3LGC


On 2/25/2018 10:10 AM, John Evans wrote:
One thing you might try is use Windows disk management in the 
administrative tools section of control to partition the large thumb 
drive with a first fat32 partition that is 2 or 4 GB - if your whole 
drive is fat32 you should just be able to shrink it down to a size 
that may work.  If it isn't fat32, delete the partition and create a 
smaller partition that is.  Then you can create a 2nd or more 
partitions after that one for NTFS or whatever.


I had an issue where a thumb drive was needed to upgrade firmware in 
an Agilent digital scope but we didn't have appropriate thumb drives, 
so I took a 1 TB USB spinning hard drive and partitioned with the 
first partition being a small fat32 partition with the firmware cab 
file and it worked great.


If you try this and it works, please let us know.

72 - john - n0hj

On 2/25/2018 7:19 AM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
Yes, not class 10 takes longer...  My thumb drives ARE formatted 
FAT32, I checked.  ...

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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 & thumb drive...

[Stephen Shearer]

Yes, not class 10 takes longer...  My thumb drives ARE formatted FAT32, 
I checked.  My OLD drive that works is a USB2.0 the new drive is a 
USB3.0 speed disk.  YES - I read the manual before I started this topic. 
NOW, the class 10 comment in the manual... class 10 is marked on SD 
cards.  I am wondering IF the software developer is using an adapter 
with an SD card rather than an "thumb drive".


*I have SD/adapter(s) and I will give it a try.*  I just like having 
fewer parts to loose when portable...


The problem isn't the speed of the thumb drive (aka class 10) but that 
the USB 3.0 and larger USB 2.0 thumb drives DON'T get "seen" by the 
PX3/P3 - no "M" on the screen.


73, steve WB3LGC


What is a class 10 SD card?   BTW, my USB3.0 "Flash Drive" is 150 MB/s  
(read speed? up to...) and SD cards and USB thumb drives are not rated 
the same - different association.


Answered by The WikiAnswers^® Community
Currently, the SD Association recognizes two Speed Classes: "Speed 
Class" and "UHS Speed Class." Speed Class applies to SD, miniSD, 
microSD, SDHC, miniSDHC, microSDHC, SDXC and microSDXC cards. These are 
denoted by a class number within a C-shaped logo. The higher the class 
number, the faster the card. In order to bear the SD Speed Class logo, 
card manufacturers have to adhere to the minimum standards set out by 
the SD Association.
Class 2 is the slowest SD card speed. Class 2 has a write speed of about 
2 Mb/s and is suitable for standard definition video recording. Class 4 
and Class 6 have write speeds of about 4 Mb/s and 6 Mb/s, respectively, 
and can be used for HD video recording. These three classes of SD cards 
are designed to operate under the normal bus interface.
*Class 10 SD cards have write speeds of 10 Mb/s and up and are designed 
to operate under the high speed bus interface. *


**


On 2/24/2018 2:04 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:

VIC and all,

See page 29 of the manual...

"A USB Mass Storage Device (MSD), such as flash or thumb drive, can be used to save 
and restore PX3 configuration data, save and restore macros and save the screen display. 
The MSD must be formatted for FAT32 files. A faster (e.g. Class 10) MSD will capture a 
screen display in 10 seconds while others may require several times longer".

Note the Class 10 reference.  There are many that are not class 10.  You can 
format to FAT32 in your desktop or laptop.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net <elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net> On 
Behalf Of Vic Rosenthal
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2018 10:38 AM
To: Stephen Shearer <sm.shearer...@gmail.com>
Cc: ELECRAFT reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] PX3 & thumb drive...

I have the same problem with my P3.

Vic 4X6GP


On 24 Feb 2018, at 17:23, Stephen Shearer <sm.shearer...@gmail.com> wrote:

I have read, tried, and still can't use a "modern" thumb drive (USB)... with my 
PX3 for data transfer.

I have an OLD thumb drive that works in my PX3 firmware 1.48...
I have a Targus.com M-Sys DiskOnKey 128M formatted as FAT32 that
works. (yes, 128 mega...) I have a San Disk Ultra Fit FAT32 16G (and other SanDisk) that 
will not give me an "M"...

Is SanDisk the problem?  Why?  Help, is there something I am not doing?

73, steve WB3LGC


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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 & thumb drive...

[Stephen Shearer]

It isn't a problem of file name..  The PX3 won't see the new thumb 
drives.  It reads the OLD drive just fine.  I don't have a problem with 
the name as I edit with the contest name in the filename and then 
copy/edit to the one the PX3 reads.  works great, except 16G drives - no 
go.  73 steve



On 2/24/2018 12:21 PM, Bob N3MNT wrote:

There was a bug in the last firmware update that has not been fixed.  The
file name that the PX3 saves the data to is different than the file name
that it tries to read the data back in from.  Until the firmware is
corrected, you need to manually edit the saved file name to have it match
the expected read from name.  It has been a while since I did this, but I
will pull my thumb drive and post the two different names shortly.




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[Elecraft] PX3 & thumb drive...

[Stephen Shearer]

I have read, tried, and still can't use a "modern" thumb drive (USB)... 
with my PX3 for data transfer.


I have an OLD thumb drive that works in my PX3 firmware 1.48...
I have a Targus.com M-Sys DiskOnKey 128M formatted as FAT32 that works. 
(yes, 128 mega...)
I have a San Disk Ultra Fit FAT32 16G (and other SanDisk) that will not 
give me an "M"...


Is SanDisk the problem?  Why?  Help, is there something I am not doing?

73, steve WB3LGC


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Re: [Elecraft] Mac Clock Question

[Stephen Prior]

My 2012 Mac mini running 10.13.3 keeps within a few tens of milliseconds
every time I check.   It uses Apple's own time servers, in my case
time.euro.apple.com

Works for me,

73 Stephen G4SJP



On 20 February 2018 at 18:42, Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
wrote:

> With a terminal window open, run “ntpq -p” to get a list of current NTP
> peers and the offset in milliseconds.
>
> $ ntpq -p
>  remote   refid  st t when poll reach   delay   offset
> jitter
> 
> ==
> +10.74.16.53 129.6.15.28  2 u  522 1024  377   25.148   -0.522
>  3.996
> *10.74.16.54 128.138.141.172  2 u  794 1024  377   23.834   -2.152
>  0.769
>
> Almost exactly 25 years ago, I wrote a more complicated NTP info script.
> At the time “groper” implied that it was groping around in the dark. Times
> have changed.
>
> https://opensource.apple.com/source/ntp/ntp-92.30.1/
> scripts/ntp-groper.auto.html
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
> > On Feb 20, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Detrick Merz <detr...@merzhaus.org> wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, with some recently releases of OSX, Apple decided to tweak
> > the NTP daemon to "save battery power." This results in the clock
> drifting
> > significantly from our perspective, but "not enough for the average user
> to
> > care about." It can definitely be enough for JT modes to care about. I
> > tracked my clock accuracy at one point on OSX 10.9 (I think), and as I
> > recall I saw it drift up to 20 seconds at some points in time.
> >
> > I'm unsure if it's been improved in the most recent macOS releases, but
> the
> > idea of forcing a restart of NTP either daily, or whenever you fire up
> > WSJT-X, hasn't necessarily been as much of a faux pas as one might think.
> >
> > -detrick
> > K4IZ
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 12:49 PM, Dale Chayes <d...@ldeo.columbia.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>> On Feb 20, 2018, at 12:06 , Walter Underwood <wun...@wunderwood.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Should not need to unlock and relock daily. In fact, that could hurt
> >> time synchronization.
> >>
> >> Indeed, restarting runs the risk of loosing  (over-writing) the
> >> calibration (local clock drift rate) that NTP uses to keep the local
> clock
> >> accurate.
> >>
> >> From my experience, I would put the idea of “restart every day” in the
> >> same category as old guidance about primitive operating systems that
> some
> >> folks used to recommend re-booting every day in order to prevent
> crashes.
> >>
> >>> Mac OS runs NTP, which continually adjusts the time.
> >>
> >> I _think_ every modern OS uses an NTP implementation or at least has one
> >> available.
> >>
> >> Some light:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol <
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol>
> >> and not so light:
> >> http://www.ntp.org/ <http://www.ntp.org/>
> >> https://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/papers.html <
> >> https://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/papers.html>
> >> reading for those who don’t know about NTP.
> >>
> >>
> >> I’d be interested to hear about ones that:
> >> a) don’t have an NTP implementation available and/or
> >> b) have one that does not work reliably
> >>
> >> One issue I’d keep an eye on is whether your OS (and it’s NTP daemon)
> will
> >> tell you if it’s having trouble syncing.
> >>
> >> With a good NTP implementation, you could go months (or years) with no
> >> significant time of day error and then loose your time sync and slowly
> >> drift off to the point that it matters for your application.
> >>
> >> You can also run into this problem if you are off the ‘net and the NTP
> >> daemon can’t get to the NTP source often enough.
> >>
> >> -Dale
> >>
> >>>
> >>> wunder
> >>> K6WRU
> >>> Walter Underwood
> >>> CM87wj
> >>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 20, 2018, at 8:55 AM, John Stengrevics <
> jstengrev...@comcast.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Richard,
> >>>>
> >>>> I run a Mac here.  Go to System Preferences, Unlock, enter “
>

[Elecraft] Looking for a small VGA monitor for the P3 available in UK

[Stephen Prior]

I have recently rearranged my operating position and have lost the space
where my old Sony 15 inch monitor used to act as an external display for
the P3.  Has anyone bought (and are happy with) a much smaller VGA 1024x768
monitor, say 7 or 8 inches in size? There are plenty on amazon.co.uk but I
am suspicious as to their quality and also their immunity to nearby RF
fields.

Suggestions welcome, but looking to resource this from UK based stock and
only models that have actually been tried out and found to be okay.

Thanks and 73,

Stephen G4SJP
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[Elecraft] [KX2] Cannot turn off switch cw tones

[Stephen Prior]

I was playing with the new features in 2.81 and enabled the tones by
holding down APF (plus Rate and A/B) at start-up.  All works great, the
double tap on PTT gives the freq. etc.  However, having established that it
works, I'm now stuck in the mode.  I can go into Setup and turn SW tones to
off but when I turn the KX2 off and then on again, the SW tones is now set
back to 20!

I have read everything I can find, but I cannot see how to get out of this
so that I have no tones of any description.

Any advice gratefully received!

Thanks and 73, Stephen G4SJP
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating FT8 portable with KX3 - GPS time sync question

[Stephen Shearer]

I also found (sometime back for the same function) 
http://www.visualgps.net/#nmeatime2-content ~$20 but neat extras


I am currently using "GPS Time" I purchased years ago for JT65 
portable/mobile for $10 - now out of business?


Thanks for the other links...

steve WB3LGC


On 10/28/2017 8:04 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:

In case someone is ever searching this info, I just found a great thread on
this specific topic, only it was for the KX3 and JT65:
http://www.digitalhams.net/msgsdisp.php?parm=kx3-jt65-frequency-drift   I
also found some nice looking freeware software BktTimeSync to do the time
syncing: http://www.maniaradio.it/en/bkttimesync.html

73,
Barry N1EU

On Sat, Oct 28, 2017 at 11:58 PM, Josh  wrote:


Yes, that! I set up NMEATime with a USB "puck" GPS receiver for EME with
JT65 on a Windows machine not internet connected. Works great. Easy to
setup & super accurate. GPS antenna indoors sitting on a desk sync'd fine
to multiple satellites.

73
Josh W6XU

Sent from my mobile device


Google NMEATime. Haven't tried it myself but one of the local hams is,

along with a USB GPS receiver.

73,
Brian, K0DTJ


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[Elecraft] Setting the K2 real time clock

[Stephen Roberts]

Well, I'm following the instructions but when I get to the part of actually 
changing the time or date by using the Band+ or Band- buttons, nothing happens. 
the current date is showing correctly and the time is 6 hrs behind UTC. 

73,
Steve, W1SFR


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Re: [Elecraft] Looking for a Kio2 for my K2

[Stephen Roberts]

Found one. Now to find an amp...



On Sep 29, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Stephen Roberts <steve...@shoreham.net> wrote:

Anyone?

73,
Steve, W1SFR


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[Elecraft] Looking for a Kio2 for my K2

[Stephen Roberts]

Anyone?

73,
Steve, W1SFR


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[Elecraft] WANTED: K2 KIO2, Filter/Clock etc.

[Stephen Roberts]

Just got a K2 and want to eventually put the amp and tuner in. If you have 
anything around that will fit the K2 and isn't being used, let me know. Thanks!

I would also trade my Kenwood TS-590S straight up for a fully loaded K2 system.

73,
Steve-W1SFR
KX3Helper.com
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Re: [Elecraft] X-class flare

[Stephen Prior]

I had just dragged a coax cable through to the lounge to play with my KX2
in a comfy chair and could hear nothing!  That explains it!  There is a
small amount of activity on 20m FT8 and JT65 that I can see, all close Eu
stuff though.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 6 September 2017 at 10:49, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP <k2vco@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Just a few minutes ago at 0925z there was a massive solar flare.
> The burst of X-rays totally turned off the HF bands. It sounds like my
> antenna fell down!
>
> Propagation will gradually return during the day, but a sudden event like
> this is exciting.
>
> "Region 2673 just produced a major X2.2 solar flare at approximately 09:10
> UTC (Sept 6). This is the first X-Class event to be detected since May
> 2015. The active region is still in a decent position for Earth directed
> eruptions. More updates will be provided should a coronal mass ejection
> (CME) be associated. More to follow. Image courtesy of SDO/AIA."
> -- <http://www.solarham.net/>
>
> --
> 73,
> Victor, 4X6GP
> Rehovot, Israel
> Formerly K2VCO
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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[Elecraft] KX2, spy radio

[Stephen Peterson]

Imagine what the WWII resistance/spies would have given for a KX2!  Fun and
interesting to look at the equipment they were using.
Steve, Ki7L
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Re: [Elecraft] Wire size for the ground on the KX2

[Stephen Hanes]

Fred,

I guess that I was making the assumption [not good!] that the input would be 
protected by a gas-tube discharge device, such as those made by Alpha-Delta --- 
I try to always use one of these at the input of any radio. Of course, what is 
still needed is to discharge the excess charge, and that is what I addressed in 
my first note.

73,
Steve, K4VWS

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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2017 13:59:08 -0700

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Wire size for the ground on the KX2

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But be wary however.  That, in itself, may not and often does not offer any 
protection at all. Each little charge from rain or snow static may be 
minuscule, but they charge the input capacitance of the device in the radio and 
eventually it breaks downbetween the input and the chassis.

Just grounding the chassis or ground plane on a PCB does nothing to change 
that, it's the charge across the input that matters.



I believe, but do not know for sure, that Elecraft designs all have a static 
bleed across the antenna connection.  Possibly someone who knows can enlighten 
all the rest of us. If you want to be sure and don't want to take your radio 
apart, wire a 100K-200K 1/8 W resistor across a

PL-259 [or BNC].  Put a T-adapter onto the radio, resistor on one leg, antenna 
on the other.



A number of years ago, our Cal QSO crew in Alpine county fried two PROIII's 
from snow static for lack of a bleed. Total ham experience on the crew was in 
the 300 year range ... You'd think someone would havethought of it. [:-)



73,



Fred ("Skip") K6DGW

Sparks NV USA

Washoe County DM09dn



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Re: [Elecraft] Wire size for the ground on the KX2

[Stephen Hanes]

Jim Brown,

Another reason for connecting a ground wire to ‘mother earth’ would be a 
variation on your reason, and that would be to provide a means to discharge 
excess charge (‘static electricity’)  before it can damage your equipment. This 
buildup of charge can occur if the antenna is subjected to only moderate winds, 
even if no thunderstorm is nearby.

73,
Steve Hanes, K4VWS

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