Re: [gentoo-user] OT: An XML Question
Hi, you can learn the xml concepts at http://www.w3schools.com/. Then, depending on the language you choose, there is lots of libs to deal with xml in many languages. Though you always have two different ways of parsing your xml file: a SAX parser approach, that runs on an element-by-element process, retrieving each element with no view on the next ones. The second way is a DOM object builder, parsing the xml file as a whole, then giving you back the whole tree as an object that can browse later with a set of methods. The later is faster to get all the information of the xml, but takes more memory since the whole xml tree must be built first. You have to look for the libs of your language now for further details, but the choice between the two is crucial. I remind a Xmlchecker java tool I wrote to run no-diff tests I implemented first with jdom, and it was good. until I had to deal with 300 Mb files ... and rewrite the whole browsing engine with SAX. Gal' 2007/5/29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there any really good XML tutorials on the web, or perhaps a book that is actually useful? Also, which libs do people preffer for dealing with XML? I am contemplating messing arround with XML for data files for a project I want to mess with. The project would involve loading objects into a dynamic list. I do not think I want to deal with the XML file in real time, as I am not sure how fast that would be, but rather load the data into memory, then save it to the XML file at save points. :-) My views may change as time goes by, but for now I am learning, and starting to do research. ^_^ Kenneth M. Burling Jr -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: An XML Question
-Original Message- From: Galevsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:21 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: An XML Question Hi, you can learn the xml concepts at http://www.w3schools.com/. Then, depending on the language you choose, there is lots of libs to deal with xml in many languages. Though you always have two different ways of parsing your xml file: a SAX parser approach, that runs on an element-by-element process, retrieving each element with no view on the next ones. The second way is a DOM object builder, parsing the xml file as a whole, then giving you back the whole tree as an object that can browse later with a set of methods. The later is faster to get all the information of the xml, but takes more memory since the whole xml tree must be built first. You have to look for the libs of your language now for further details, but the choice between the two is crucial. I remind a Xmlchecker java tool I wrote to run no-diff tests I implemented first with jdom, and it was good. until I had to deal with 300 Mb files ... and rewrite the whole browsing engine with SAX. Gal' 2007/5/29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there any really good XML tutorials on the web, or perhaps a book that is actually useful? snip Thanks for the info! I think I may look into the DOM approach. ^_^ Does(do?) libxml or libxml2 have a DOM interface? I know that libxml2 is already on the system (part of the base install), so it may be a good place to look. :) Does anyone know of a good tutorial site with a .org or .edu web address? The firewall I am stuck behind at the moment has some funky restrictions. :P ^_^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2)
I haven't done an emerge on my server in quite a while, but now that I've upgraded the CPU/RAM, I figure it's about time. There are a few packages I'm a bit apprehensive about upgrading. exim being one. I hate that MTA. It was a nightmare to setup and get working properly, and now I don't want to break it. (a friend set it up actually, as that was the MTA he used.) daevid portage # esearch exim * mail-mta/exim Latest version available: 4.67 Latest version installed: 4.54 Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] Homepage:http://www.exim.org/ So I have this in my package.mask: =mail-mta/exim-4.55 (Is this upgrade from 4.54 to 4.67 very smooth? Should I worry? I dread having to deal with exim.conf again, and the exim users list is very elitist. Usually saying RTFM for most issues -- but they all are experts or mail admins. I'm not. Nor do I want to be.) But when I do an emerge -aut world, I get this blocking issue: These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: ...snip... [nomerge ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.02 [5.01-r2] [nomerge ] x11-apps/appres-1.0.1 [1.0.0] [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libX11-1.1.1-r1 [1.0.3-r1] USE=-xcb% [nomerge ] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r10 [4.1-r9] [ebuild N] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2 USE=ipv6 ssl -mailwrapper -md5sum [nomerge ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.5-r2 [3.5.5] [nomerge ] media-libs/lcms-1.15 [1.14-r1] USE=-tiff* [nomerge ] dev-lang/swig-1.3.31 [1.3.25] USE=ruby* -lua% -mono% -ocaml% -pike% [nomerge ]dev-lang/php-5.2.2-r1 [5.2.1-r3] [nomerge ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1-r1 [7.15.1] USE=ldap* -idn* [ebuild U ] net-nds/openldap-2.3.30-r2 [2.3.27] USE=-smbkrb5passwd% [nomerge ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.3.3 [6.2.9.5] [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libXt-1.0.5 [1.0.4] ...snip... [blocks B ] mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (also, I never understand the --tree option. Does this mean that vixie-cron is the issue, or kdegraphics is the issue? Being reverse order, I am guessing vixie-cron, yet it says nomerge so that seems like, why would it care, plus it's worked fine all these years with the exim I have installed. Conversely, why would kdegraphics give a hoot about a mail transport? I don't get it.) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] FW: mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (more info added)
I haven't done an emerge on my server in quite a while, but now that I've upgraded the CPU/RAM, I figure it's about time. There are a few packages I'm a bit apprehensive about upgrading. exim being one. I hate that MTA. It was a nightmare to setup and get working properly, and now I don't want to break it. (a friend set it up actually, as that was the MTA he used.) daevid portage # esearch exim * mail-mta/exim Latest version available: 4.67 Latest version installed: 4.54 Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] Homepage:http://www.exim.org/ So I have this in my package.mask: =mail-mta/exim-4.55 (Is this upgrade from 4.54 to 4.67 very smooth? Should I worry? I dread having to deal with exim.conf again, and the exim users list is very elitist. Usually saying RTFM for most issues -- but they all are experts or mail admins. I'm not. Nor do I want to be.) But when I do an emerge -aut world, I get this blocking issue: These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: ...snip... [nomerge ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.02 [5.01-r2] [nomerge ] x11-apps/appres-1.0.1 [1.0.0] [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libX11-1.1.1-r1 [1.0.3-r1] USE=-xcb% [nomerge ] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r10 [4.1-r9] [ebuild N] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2 USE=ipv6 ssl -mailwrapper -md5sum [nomerge ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.5-r2 [3.5.5] [nomerge ] media-libs/lcms-1.15 [1.14-r1] USE=-tiff* [nomerge ] dev-lang/swig-1.3.31 [1.3.25] USE=ruby* -lua% -mono% -ocaml% -pike% [nomerge ]dev-lang/php-5.2.2-r1 [5.2.1-r3] [nomerge ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1-r1 [7.15.1] USE=ldap* -idn* [ebuild U ] net-nds/openldap-2.3.30-r2 [2.3.27] USE=-smbkrb5passwd% [nomerge ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.3.3 [6.2.9.5] [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libXt-1.0.5 [1.0.4] ...snip... [blocks B ] mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (also, I never understand the --tree option. Does this mean that vixie-cron is the issue, or kdegraphics is the issue? Being reverse order, I am guessing vixie-cron, yet it says nomerge so that seems like, why would it care, plus it's worked fine all these years with the exim I have installed. Conversely, why would kdegraphics give a hoot about a mail transport? I don't get it.) And maybe I'm using this tool wrong, but this just adds to my confusion. daevid portage # equery depends mail-mta/ssmtp [ Searching for packages depending on mail-mta/ssmtp... ] daevid portage # equery depends mail-mta/exim [ Searching for packages depending on mail-mta/exim... ] app-admin/sudo-1.6.8_p9-r2 (virtual/mta) app-admin/tripwire-2.3.1.2-r2 (virtual/mta) dev-lang/php-5.2.1-r3 (virtual/mta) mail-client/mailx-8.1.2.20040524-r1 (virtual/mta) mail-filter/procmail-3.22-r7 (virtual/mta) net-mail/mailman-2.1.5-r4 (virtual/mta) sys-power/apcupsd-3.10.18-r1 (virtual/mta) sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r9 (virtual/mta) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: An XML Question
Well, a man libxml2 gives you all that you need: Documentation for libxml is available on-line at http://www.xmlsoft.org/ ;o) Gal' 2007/5/29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -Original Message- From: Galevsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 4:21 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: An XML Question Hi, you can learn the xml concepts at http://www.w3schools.com/. Then, depending on the language you choose, there is lots of libs to deal with xml in many languages. Though you always have two different ways of parsing your xml file: a SAX parser approach, that runs on an element-by-element process, retrieving each element with no view on the next ones. The second way is a DOM object builder, parsing the xml file as a whole, then giving you back the whole tree as an object that can browse later with a set of methods. The later is faster to get all the information of the xml, but takes more memory since the whole xml tree must be built first. You have to look for the libs of your language now for further details, but the choice between the two is crucial. I remind a Xmlchecker java tool I wrote to run no-diff tests I implemented first with jdom, and it was good. until I had to deal with 300 Mb files ... and rewrite the whole browsing engine with SAX. Gal' 2007/5/29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there any really good XML tutorials on the web, or perhaps a book that is actually useful? snip Thanks for the info! I think I may look into the DOM approach. ^_^ Does(do?) libxml or libxml2 have a DOM interface? I know that libxml2 is already on the system (part of the base install), so it may be a good place to look. :) Does anyone know of a good tutorial site with a .org or .edu web address? The firewall I am stuck behind at the moment has some funky restrictions. :P ^_^ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ebuilds for the following packages are either all masked or don't exist
Calculating world dependencies - !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all masked or don't exist: net-analyzer/ntop net-www/gentoo-webroot-default media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi net-analyzer/bwm-ng virtual/x11 media-video/came media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi When I see this message, is the short answer, emerge --unmerge each of them because they're just dead packages? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds for the following packages are either all masked or don't exist
From: Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 01:37:20 -0700 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds for the following packages are either all masked or don't exist Calculating world dependencies - !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all masked or don't exist: net-analyzer/ntop net-www/gentoo-webroot-default media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi net-analyzer/bwm-ng virtual/x11 media-video/came media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi When I see this message, is the short answer, emerge --unmerge each of them because they're just dead packages? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list --- Well, the answer is that the packages exist but they are masked. You are without a doubt using some older versions no longer in portage, and the versions that are in portage are masked, while yours were stable when you installed them. Add the packages to /etc/portage/package.keywords and they should be possible to update. Or you can unmerge them if you want to. -Kristian Poul Herkild -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds for the following packages are either all masked or don't exist
-Original Message- From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 5:37 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds for the following packages are either all masked or don't exist Calculating world dependencies - !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all masked or don't exist: net-analyzer/ntop net-www/gentoo-webroot-default media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi net-analyzer/bwm-ng virtual/x11 media-video/came media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi When I see this message, is the short answer, emerge --unmerge each of them because they're just dead packages? If those are already on your system and functioning, you may want to list them in package.provided . That will tell the system to use the package that is already on the system. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FW: mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (more info added)
On Tuesday 29 May 2007, Daevid Vincent wrote: I haven't done an emerge on my server in quite a while, but now that I've upgraded the CPU/RAM, I figure it's about time. There are a few packages I'm a bit apprehensive about upgrading. exim being one. I hate that MTA. It was a nightmare to setup and get working properly, and now I don't want to break it. (a friend set it up actually, as that was the MTA he used.) daevid portage # esearch exim * mail-mta/exim Latest version available: 4.67 Latest version installed: 4.54 Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] Homepage:http://www.exim.org/ So I have this in my package.mask: =mail-mta/exim-4.55 That's correct. If you are happy with exim-4.55 and there's no reaosn you can find to upgrade it, just stick with what you have (Is this upgrade from 4.54 to 4.67 very smooth? Should I worry? I dread having to deal with exim.conf again, and the exim users list is very elitist. Usually saying RTFM for most issues -- but they all are experts or mail admins. I'm not. Nor do I want to be.) But when I do an emerge -aut world, I get this blocking issue: A better command is probably 'emerge -avuNDt world'. This will pick up changes in USE flags (N) and also update any dependencies that are not in world (D) These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: ...snip... [nomerge ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.02 [5.01-r2] [nomerge ] x11-apps/appres-1.0.1 [1.0.0] [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libX11-1.1.1-r1 [1.0.3-r1] USE=-xcb% [nomerge ] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r10 [4.1-r9] [ebuild N] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2 USE=ipv6 ssl -mailwrapper -md5sum [nomerge ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.5-r2 [3.5.5] [nomerge ] media-libs/lcms-1.15 [1.14-r1] USE=-tiff* [nomerge ] dev-lang/swig-1.3.31 [1.3.25] USE=ruby* -lua% -mono% -ocaml% -pike% [nomerge ]dev-lang/php-5.2.2-r1 [5.2.1-r3] [nomerge ] net-misc/curl-7.15.1-r1 [7.15.1] USE=ldap* -idn* [ebuild U ] net-nds/openldap-2.3.30-r2 [2.3.27] USE=-smbkrb5passwd% [nomerge ] media-gfx/imagemagick-6.3.3 [6.2.9.5] [ebuild U ] x11-libs/libXt-1.0.5 [1.0.4] ...snip... [blocks B ] mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (also, I never understand the --tree option. Does this mean that vixie-cron is the issue, or kdegraphics is the issue? Being reverse order, I am guessing vixie-cron, yet it says nomerge so that seems like, why would it care, plus it's worked fine all these years with the exim I have installed. Conversely, why would kdegraphics give a hoot about a mail transport? I don't get it.) It means that vixie-cron depends on ssmtp (i.e. vixie-cron uses ssmtp for some reason). Obviously, ssmtp will be merged first so that it is there when vixie-cron is merged. The output does indeed show that packages will be emerged in bottom-up order, but the list of dependencies is top-down. The vixie-cron ebuild inherits the cron eclass, and that file has this: RDEPEND=!virtual/cron virtual/mta =sys-process/cronbase-0.3.2 So it wants a virtual mta, and somehow believes that exim doesn't provide it, so portage has (helpfully...) suggested ssmtp. vixie-cron doesn't need to be recompiled, as it's an RDEPEND and only needed at run time (hence the nomerge) I would suggest you investigate why portage thinks exim does not provice virtual/mta capabilities And maybe I'm using this tool wrong, but this just adds to my confusion. daevid portage # equery depends mail-mta/ssmtp [ Searching for packages depending on mail-mta/ssmtp... ] daevid portage # equery depends mail-mta/exim [ Searching for packages depending on mail-mta/exim... ] app-admin/sudo-1.6.8_p9-r2 (virtual/mta) app-admin/tripwire-2.3.1.2-r2 (virtual/mta) dev-lang/php-5.2.1-r3 (virtual/mta) mail-client/mailx-8.1.2.20040524-r1 (virtual/mta) mail-filter/procmail-3.22-r7 (virtual/mta) net-mail/mailman-2.1.5-r4 (virtual/mta) sys-power/apcupsd-3.10.18-r1 (virtual/mta) sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r9 (virtual/mta) What's confusing about that? equery found 8 packages that claim to depends (or use) ssmtp. That's perfectly normal. It's the packages that depend on ssmtp, not the packages you have installed and are configured/USE-flagged to use it alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware overlay
On Monday 28 May 2007, p014r834r wrote: Hi all. I am just about to use vmware overlay, and I was wondering if anyone had any problems/issues using it. Yeah, one issue: Why isn't vmware-workstation-6.* in the portage tree yet? OK, I'm just kidding (there's testing to be done). Generally it works fine, but right now I can't get vmware's modules to load and work right. Dunno why. Previously the ebuilds worked well. Mind you, there's always Murphy. So add the overlay to your system, and emerge away. If it doesn't work, you'll soon know about it and can revert back alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FW: mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (more info added)
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 10:32:23 Daevid Vincent wrote: * mail-mta/exim Latest version available: 4.67 Latest version installed: 4.54 Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] Homepage:http://www.exim.org/ So I have this in my package.mask: =mail-mta/exim-4.55 [SNIP] [nomerge ] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r10 [4.1-r9] [ebuild N] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2 USE=ipv6 ssl -mailwrapper [SNIP] [blocks B ] mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (also, I never understand the --tree option. Does this mean that vixie-cron is the issue, or kdegraphics is the issue? Being reverse order, I am guessing vixie-cron, yet it says nomerge so that seems like, why would it care, plus it's worked fine all these years with the exim I have installed. vixie-cron has a run-time dependency on virtual/mta which can be satisfied by both exim and ssmtp (and 8 other packages in the tree). ssmtp is the default provider. What has happened is that all versions of exim in the tree that you haven't masked have been removed from the tree. I.e. there are no versions in the tree below 4.55. Therefore it suggests installing the default provider of virtual/mta which is blocked by the version of exim which is still installed although not installable (not in the tree). It matters despite the nomerge because it's a run-time dependency rather than build-time. You have at least four options. The first option is to upgrade exim and hope it'll work. I have no knowledge about exim so I cannot tell you whether it will. The second is to restore the ebuild for your installed version in an overlay (you can pull it from /var/db/pkg/mail-mta/exim-4.54/) thereby restoring a non-masked version of exim.. The third is to add mail-mta/exim to package.provided (see `man portage`). The fourth is to unmerge exim and use another mta (I'm using postfix). -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware overlay
Alan McKinnon escreveu: On Monday 28 May 2007, p014r834r wrote: Hi all. I am just about to use vmware overlay, and I was wondering if anyone had any problems/issues using it. Yeah, one issue: Why isn't vmware-workstation-6.* in the portage tree yet? OK, I'm just kidding (there's testing to be done). Generally it works fine, but right now I can't get vmware's modules to load and work right. Dunno why. Previously the ebuilds worked well. I could install VMware6 manually and it worked fine (except setting some env variable). Mind you, there's always Murphy. So add the overlay to your system, and emerge away. If it doesn't work, you'll soon know about it and can revert back I installed it and pulled vmplayer 2.0. It seemed to word fine... let´s see. alan p014r834r -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2)
Daevid Vincent wrote: [nomerge ] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r10 [4.1-r9] [ebuild N] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2 USE=ipv6 ssl -mailwrapper -md5sum (also, I never understand the --tree option. Does this mean that vixie-cron is the issue, or kdegraphics is the issue? Being reverse order, I am guessing vixie-cron, yet it says nomerge so that seems like, why would it care, plus it's worked fine all these years with the exim I have installed. Conversely, why would kdegraphics give a hoot about a mail transport? I don't get it.) This is telling you that vixie-cron (which is already installed so will not be merged again) is trying to bring in ssmtp for some reason. I don't use exim or know anything about it, but does its ebuild register it as a proper MTA? It seems that your system either doesn't recognize exim as an MTA, or perhaps that vixie-cron requires an MTA other than exim (postfix is nice :) ) R -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware overlay
On Tue, 29 May 2007 13:50:23 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: OK, I'm just kidding (there's testing to be done). Generally it works fine, but right now I can't get vmware's modules to load and work right. Dunno why. Previously the ebuilds worked well. The modules ebuild is for WS5. There's a bug about this somewhere, but for now I've installed WS6 using the VMware script and it's working fine. -- Neil Bothwick How stupid are people? Send me $5 to find out. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Test!
On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: dark85x [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Test! On Monday 28 May 2007 19:04:16 Tobias Heinlein wrote: Hi there! eMails rock! irc email -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Perhaps an IRC bot that would send and receive emails? :P Especially if it would alternate between test and unsubscribe as the message bodies. That'd be great. -- Ryan W Sims -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Test!
-Original Message- From: Ryan Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:40 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Test! On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: dark85x [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 2:06 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Test! On Monday 28 May 2007 19:04:16 Tobias Heinlein wrote: Hi there! eMails rock! irc email -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Perhaps an IRC bot that would send and receive emails? :P Especially if it would alternate between test and unsubscribe as the message bodies. That'd be great. -- Ryan W Sims Hehehe. That would be pretty bad. Saddly though, that is probably what it would degenerate into in the wrong hands. ^^;; Bots need some sort of authentication and filtering to be Safe for anything that involves public broadcast outside of the IRC environment. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I sync and do an emerge -DNpvu world daily. The results are e-mailed to me by vixie-cron. This allows me to read what new packages are available and also see the updates available. These logs are sent to my gmail address with a label and filter. If I am so inclined I can view the current one or past ones. I can then log into the box and run emerge -DNavu world and update, then run etc-update after that. The only thing that's been bugging me is restarting services after they've been updated (automagically, or near-auto). -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I have a cron job that does emerge --sync and another that does revdep-rebuild -p. These email me their results. At least once a week, I manually do emerge -aDvu world Unless there's something particularly weird, I say yes when it asks if I want the emerge. I have the PORTAGE_NICENESS set to 15 in /etc/make.conf, and since there are 4 hyperthreads on this machine, I also have MAKEOPTS=-j4. Together, these leave enough compute power that I never really notice the load. Besides, it's easy to start the emerge at the end of the day. At the end of the emerge, I run etc-update. Each change I make in a config file is tagged with a string that is easy to recognize. If I have never modified a config file in the past, I accept all changes -- I reason that if what the devs did the first time was good enough, that is probably still true. There are only about a dozen packages that I made any changes to, so it's fairly easy to keep up with things. Most weeks I spend less than an hour on administration. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list I have 2 gentoo boxes in our apartment(one's quiet since we just moved and I haven't gotten back to it yet), I sync around once a week, and -uDavN world when I sync. If there are packages that look important (gcc, glibc, baselayout, etc) I do a bit more research. I watch gentoo.org and this list. The only time I put off an update is if I see notes about it on gentoo.org or such; things like the xorg modular ebuilds, the new java system, etc. I have portage email me the elog. It's just me and my wife using the boxes, so I'm not as careful as I would be were it a production server, but I've never really been bitten, either. As for balance with what I'm actually paid to do, if I'm taken up with work, I don't update until I get some free time. -- Ryan W Sims -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 10:01 -0400, Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by daily server. Did you mean to say daily workstation? Daily server sounds more like a butler or something. My Gentoo setup is basically (daily) workstation which doubles as a file server, a laptop, a MythTV station, and a Xen host with various virtual machines. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? This is really going to depend on the individual, being yourself. The only thing I can recommend is that you don't wait *too* long to sync/upgrade as it's usually a pain. Again, my setup: Workstation: usually every day depending on my mood Laptop: About once a month MythBox: As needed (new release of Mythtv, etc) Xen host: New version of Xen/Kernel Xen guests: base image updated regularly, other guests as needed How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? Workstation: when available (except kernel. I sometimes use bleeding edge (using kernels not yet in portage) until something breaks and then I get conservative. Laptop: Once a month, or whenever next major release of GNOME is out MythTv: don't worry about it that much. Xen host: ditto, except for kernel Xen guests: depends on what it's doing. If it's a web server, for example, I try to keep up to date on apache. some guests have newer versions of some packages masked because I require a certain version. Try to not stay too far behind on Xen/Kernel but their releases are infrequent anyway. The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? For some people system administration is their day job. For others, they save it at for evenings/weekends. :-). It really depends. Is this for your system at home (I'm still confused about the daily server part)? If it's for home then I'd imagine most people consider Gentoo administration as a hobby and thus probably do it as often as any other hobby. If you mean at work, well I've only had one job where Gentoo was used in the office (and there it was pretty much only for workstations and light servers but in general most places I've seen do updates on an as needed basis (i.e. security updates, updates that fix a particular issue you're experiencing, etc.). Of course a lot of the big shops use enterprise solutions like Red Hat Network or Red Carpet/Zenworks. I don't think you're going to find a hard rule if that's what you're looking for, but hopefully you'll get enough responses to be able to come up with your own. -- Albert W. Hopkins -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On Tue, 29 May 2007 10:01:39 -0400 Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? I have a daily cron job containing: === emerge --sync \ emerge -DuNf world \ glsa-check -t all 21 | mail -s GLSA report root === In other words it syncs the tree, fetches all the new packages and then checks for security vulnerabilities. If glsa-chack says This system is not affected by any of the listed GLSAs I update when I have the time (mostly in the weekends), otherwise I update ASAP. -- Best regards, Daniel -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X11 from another machine [SOLVED]
Grant Edwards wrote: However, the usual way to use remote X-based programs is just to let SSH do that. It can provide a tunnel for X. This is especially easy if the remote SSH server daemon has set its X11Forwarding configuration setting set to yes (otherwise, it is really a bit harder and not suggested). Then, you just would connect using ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED] and that's it, SSH will care for creating a socket on the remote machine and set the DISPLAY variable accordingly. NB: I've found that using -Y instead of -X can speed up some applications by a factor of 50 or more. Thank you all for your responses, although, due to me not initially providing all of the needed info, some peoples responses were not valid. My problem was I had to forward from an 8 year old SUN server, with no keyboard or monitor to my linux box. It's running Sunos5.? and DOES NOT have SSH - g!!! Only telnet! Between the replies I got and and more Googling, I had to: telnet into the SUN box. On the SUN box export the DISPLAY system variable with it pointing to my machine. Tell the linux box default xorg window manager and then kdm, when I subsequently installed it, to not ignore tcp ie comment out the -nolisten tcp config variable. Couldn't get xauth to work so I used xhost to tell my machine to accept the connection from the Sun server. Fired up the CAD system from the telnet login and hey presto, MicroStation on my linux box. Sounds simple but the amount of stuffing around I had to do before it eventually workedprobably best left unsaid. Anyway, thanks to all for the help and here's hoping I get access to SSH the next time I have to do anything like this. Regards, Andrew -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 09:48 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 10:01 -0400, Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by daily server. ... and I'm even less certain how I read that as daily server. I apologize for having responded before taking my medication. -- Albert W. Hopkins -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
Daniel Iliev wrote: I have a daily cron job containing: === emerge --sync \ emerge -DuNf world \ glsa-check -t all 21 | mail -s GLSA report root === In other words it syncs the tree, fetches all the new packages and then checks for security vulnerabilities. If glsa-chack says This system is not affected by any of the listed GLSAs I update when I have the time (mostly in the weekends), otherwise I update ASAP. In addition to the above, my cron job also syncs my overlays, updates eix database, checks dependencies, and verifies nvidia driver was not updated behind my back :-) echo Syncing overlays... /usr/bin/svn cleanup /usr/portage/local/layman/xeffects layman -S echo Running update-eix... update-eix --quiet echo Running revdep-rebuild revdep-rebuild --ignore --pretend --no-color rm -f /.revdep-rebuild.* echo show openGL selection eselect --no-color opengl list So my daily routine is to check the email from cron, then as long as nothing big needs to be updated, run emerge -uDNav where I examine the use flags, particularly the not selected ones. For big updates like kde and gcc, I wait for the weekend then check for any updating issues (b.g.o., forums, this list). HTH, Roy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
You wrote How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? I have settled to a 5-day routine, when I sync, update completely the system target, and go through the listing of changes to world, where I only upgrade things important to me or those which have a big gap in the version number or a new major number. This doesn't cost me much personal and CPU time. ralf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
Am Dienstag 29 Mai 2007 16:01 schrieb Denis: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? I sync/update on Wednesday and Sunday using eix-sync instead of emerge-sync. That way it shows me all changes on the tree together with a short description of the package. That way I find useful programs from time to time. pgpCzye3jjWaW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? For the home samba server I update about once a year. My room mate updates the mythtv machine never. My vps instance with mail, web, etc does an eix-sync and glsa-check once a week and then I maybe emerge something once a month. I've been playing with Apache 2.2 lately which has been updating pretty quickly the last few weeks, but that's a bit of out of the ordinary. kashani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
All these responses are very helpful - thanks for taking your time to reply! Yea, my needs are pretty simple - just maintaining computational workstations (one at home, one at work) - I am the primary user. I am not running any servers on either box. I've never used cron - I haven't felt the need to automate system administration in Gentoo any more than what's already provided. I keep marveling at emerge and the portage system because it sure makes things easy on most occasions!! I really don't have a problem running emerge --pretend by hand, studying the output, and updating as needed. My problem in the past was falling too far behind with the updates, and now that I have fresh installs of Gentoo, I don't want to repeat that. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't see windows servers on network from gnome
Hi Are there some special actions I need to take to be able to browser/see my windows servers on my lan in gnome. I can ping the machines and mount shared folders with smb from the commandline so I know they are there and can be accessed but it could be nice if they ware browserable from within gnome. I have seen this work in distroes like ubuntu but how do I enable it in Gentoo. I would expect them to be listed under places-network serveres. Regards Johannes Skov Frandsen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't see windows servers on network from gnome
Good day... These two programs are a gui, test it. http://jags.sourceforge.net/ http://www.rt.mipt.ru/~ivan/TkSmb/ The second it's not pretty... :P I hope this help you... On 5/29/07, Johannes Skov Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Are there some special actions I need to take to be able to browser/see my windows servers on my lan in gnome. I can ping the machines and mount shared folders with smb from the commandline so I know they are there and can be accessed but it could be nice if they ware browserable from within gnome. I have seen this work in distroes like ubuntu but how do I enable it in Gentoo. I would expect them to be listed under places-network serveres. Regards Johannes Skov Frandsen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Francisco Rivas Linux User (New) : #448324 Linux Machine (New) : 355187
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't see windows servers on network from gnome
Another tow tools: http://freshmeat.net/projects/pyneighborhood/ http://freshmeat.net/projects/linneighborhood/ Have a nice day... On 5/29/07, Johannes Skov Frandsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Are there some special actions I need to take to be able to browser/see my windows servers on my lan in gnome. I can ping the machines and mount shared folders with smb from the commandline so I know they are there and can be accessed but it could be nice if they ware browserable from within gnome. I have seen this work in distroes like ubuntu but how do I enable it in Gentoo. I would expect them to be listed under places-network serveres. Regards Johannes Skov Frandsen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Francisco Rivas Linux User (New) : #448324 Linux Machine (New) : 355187
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 20:14 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls / ls: cannot open directory /: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ What does 'ls -ld /' and 'ls -ld /etc' return? Both of them should look like: drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 May 29 04:40 / drwxr-xr-x 56 root root 4096 May 29 11:39 /etc Regards, Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 22:04, Paul Varner wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 20:14 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls / ls: cannot open directory /: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ What does 'ls -ld /' and 'ls -ld /etc' return? Both of them should look like: drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 May 29 04:40 / drwxr-xr-x 56 root root 4096 May 29 11:39 /etc Oops! mine looks like this: # ls -ld / drwxrwxrwt 22 root root 648 Apr 6 18:44 / What's wrong here? PS. I do not suffer from Maxim's problem, but clearly something is wrong with my access rights on the root directory? -- Regards, Mick pgpo0SvCRc70x.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Deactivate keyboard
Hi, I have set up Gentoo on a system that I would like to use as a video, music player and sometimes to check my emails. There is a remote control connected to it and is detected as a serial keyboard. Now I want the xorg-server not to process events coming from this keyboard. I also have a bluetooth keyboard that I want to connect to that system and events coming from this keyboard should be processed. So, is it possible to deactivate one keyboard? Thanks for help -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 29 May 2007 22:04, Paul Varner wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-25 at 20:14 -0700, maxim wexler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls / ls: cannot open directory /: Permission denied [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ What does 'ls -ld /' and 'ls -ld /etc' return? Both of them should look like: drwxr-xr-x 20 root root 4096 May 29 04:40 / drwxr-xr-x 56 root root 4096 May 29 11:39 /etc Oops! mine looks like this: # ls -ld / drwxrwxrwt 22 root root 648 Apr 6 18:44 / What's wrong here? PS. I do not suffer from Maxim's problem, but clearly something is wrong with my access rights on the root directory? Having root world-writeable looks a bit suspicious, especially if you don't remember doing it yourself. :) The 't' bit on a directory just means that deletes in that directory are restricted to the superuser or file owner (as opposed to anyone with +w permissions to the directory). I'm not sure why that would affect sudo, or ls for that matter, unless it's something funny with how opendir() works? You could try turning off the odd permsisions: chmod o-wt / chmod g-w / and see if anything changes. -- -- Mike Still using IE? Get Firefox! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesid=6492t=1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - spamassassin not rewriting subject headers
I'm having a problem. I'm running spamassassin with exim: baby ~ # emerge -pv exim spamassassin These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] mail-mta/exim-4.67 USE=exiscan exiscan-acl ldap mysql pam perl sasl ssl syslog tcpd -X -dnsdb -domainkeys -dovecot-sasl -gnutls -ipv6 -lmtp -mailwrapper -mbox -mbx -nis -postgres -radius -spf -sqlite -srs 0 kB [ebuild R ] mail-filter/spamassassin-3.1.8-r1 USE=berkdb doc mysql ssl -ipv6 -ldap -postgres -qmail -sqlite -tools 980 kB and I've finally gotten spamassassin to add X-Spam headers to potential spammish emails, but it's not rewriting the Subject header. Here's the ACL from /etc/exim/exim.conf: acl_check_data: # Deny if the message contains a virus. Before enabling this check, you # must install a virus scanner and set the av_scanner option above. # # denymalware= * # message= This message contains a virus ($malware_name). # Add headers to a message if it is judged to be spam. Before enabling this, # you must install SpamAssassin. You may also need to set the spamd_address # option above. # warnspam = nobody add_header = X-Spam_score: $spam_score\n\ X-Spam_score_int: $spam_score_int\n\ X-Spam_bar: $spam_bar\n\ X-Spam_report: $spam_report # Accept the message. accept Here's my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf: baby ~ # cat /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf # This is the right place to customize your installation of SpamAssassin. # # See 'perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' for details of what can be # tweaked. # # Only a small subset of options are listed below # ### # Add *SPAM* to the Subject header of spam e-mails # rewrite_header Subject *SPAM* # Save spam messages as a message/rfc822 MIME attachment instead of # modifying the original message (0: off, 2: use text/plain instead) # report_safe 0 # Set which networks or hosts are considered 'trusted' by your mail # server (i.e. not spammers) # #trusted_networks 70.234.122. # Set file-locking method (flock is not safe over NFS, but is faster) # lock_method flock # Set the threshold at which a message is considered spam (default: 5.0) # required_score 5.0 # Use Bayesian classifier (default: 1) # use_bayes 1 # Bayesian classifier auto-learning (default: 1) # bayes_auto_learn 1 # Set headers which may provide inappropriate cues to the Bayesian # classifier # # bayes_ignore_header X-Bogosity # bayes_ignore_header X-Spam-Flag # bayes_ignore_header X-Spam-Status # # header CITIBANK Body =~ /Citi/ score -100 header YAHOOGROUPS Reply-To =~ /yahoogroups.com/ score -100 So why isn't it rewriting the Subject header? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Switching to Bellsouth dial-up, trying to anyway. :-(
Hi, I'm trying to switch ISPs over to Bell South. I can not get it to connect up though. I have tried wvdial and Kppp with no luck. This is what I am getting. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # wvdial WvDial*1: WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.56 WvDial*1: Initializing modem. WvDial*1: Sending: ATZ WvDial Modem*1: ATZ WvDial Modem*1: OK WvDial*1: Sending: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 WvDial Modem*1: ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 C1 D2 +FCLASS=0 WvDial Modem*1: OK WvDial*1: Modem initialized. WvDial*1: Sending: ATDT*70,4952462 WvDial*1: Waiting for carrier. WvDial Modem*1: ATDT*70,4952462 WvDial Modem*1: CONNECT 26400/V34/NONE WvDial*1: Carrier detected. Waiting for prompt. WvDialNotice: Don't know what to do! Starting pppd and hoping for the best. WvDialNotice: Starting pppd at Tue May 29 17:57:20 2007 WvDialNotice: Pid of pppd: 15088 WvDial*1: Using interface ppp0 WvDial*1: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08] WvDial*1: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08] WvDial*1: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08] WvDial*1: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08] WvDial*1: pppd: ([06][08][18][06][08] WvDial*1: Disconnecting at Tue May 29 17:57:50 2007 WvDial*1: The PPP daemon has died: A modem hung up the phone (exit code = 16) WvDial*1: man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. WvDialNotice: Try again and look into /var/log/messages and the wvdial and pppd man pages for more information. WvDialNotice: Auto Reconnect will be attempted in 5 seconds From /var/log/messages May 29 17:53:48 smoker pppd[11949]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0 May 29 17:53:48 smoker pppd[11949]: Using interface ppp0 May 29 17:53:48 smoker pppd[11949]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 May 29 17:54:18 smoker pppd[11949]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests May 29 17:54:18 smoker pppd[11949]: Connection terminated. May 29 17:54:18 smoker pppd[11949]: Modem hangup May 29 17:54:18 smoker pppd[11949]: Exit. May 29 17:55:35 smoker pppd[27516]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0 May 29 17:55:35 smoker pppd[27516]: Using interface ppp0 May 29 17:55:35 smoker pppd[27516]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 May 29 17:56:05 smoker pppd[27516]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests May 29 17:56:05 smoker pppd[27516]: Connection terminated. May 29 17:56:05 smoker pppd[27516]: Modem hangup May 29 17:56:05 smoker pppd[27516]: Exit. When I tried to use Kppp, I got this error: May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: pppd 2.4.4 started by dale, uid 1000 May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: using channel 403 May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: Using interface ppp0 May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 May 29 17:59:29 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:32 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:35 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:38 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:41 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:44 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:47 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:50 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:53 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:56 smoker pppd[2131]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xe7380598 pcomp accomp] May 29 17:59:59 smoker pppd[2131]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests May 29 17:59:59 smoker pppd[2131]: Connection terminated. May 29 17:59:59 smoker pppd[2131]: Modem hangup May 29 17:59:59 smoker pppd[2131]: Exit. I did a google search and nothing made sense to me. I did try adding lcp-max-configure 30 to /etc/ppp/options though. Still no go. Anybody have a clue on how to fix this?? Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- www.myspace.com/-remove-me-dalek1967 Copy n paste then remove the -remove-me- part. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mail server Active Directory authentication
Hello, I'm looking for a solution to intergrate mail server like qmail or postfix with AD for user authentication. I tried google but didnt found anything about it. Please help. Thanks in advance. Kacper Goc -- Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse.
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail server Active Directory authentication
Kacper Goc wrote: Hello, I'm looking for a solution to integrate mail server like qmail or postfix with AD for user authentication. I tried google but didn't found anything about it. Please help. Postfix - LDAP - AD That would be the setup I'd use. You'd need a how-to for exporting AD to LDAP and then one for Postfix accounts in LDAP. Both of those should exist in many different forms though it's possible that a complete AD/LDAP/Postfix how-to might exist. Try http://gentoo-wiki.org/ for Gentoo specific how-tos. kashani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] wifi statup backgrounds
When i start my wifi network (with wpa_supplicant in debug mode) it backgrounds and I cant see the rest of the debug messages. How do i stop the backgrounding? Make sure of two things: 1. At /etc/conf.d/net, you add the -d to the line wpa_supplicant_wlan0=whatever -d I already have wpa_supplicant_ath0=- -Dmadwifi 2. That you start the net.wlan0 service as /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 --verbose start That doesn't seem to make any difference. I still get; Added interface ath0 Daemonize.. [ ok ] * Starting wpa_cli on ath0 ... [ ok ] * Backgrounding ... Optionally, you can also run tail -f /var/log/everything/current I don't seem to have that file, and I only get hardware related stuff in my messages file. Any other ideas? The ath0 interface also starts itself automatically, even though I havent set that up with rc-update. Cheers, Adam -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? Should one do this once a week? Once in two weeks? How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? As soon as new things become available, or, say, once a month or so? The reason I ask is because I often don't have a lot of time to devote to system administration on a regular basis but do want to keep my box updated as much as possible. How do some of you non-developers balance system administration with your day job? Last thing before I hop off each night, emerge --sync followed by a -pv -uDN world, if I'm happy I fire it up and head to bed :) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On 5/29/07, Tim Allinghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last thing before I hop off each night, emerge --sync followed by a -pv -uDN world, if I'm happy I fire it up and head to bed :) I'm sure that makes for particularly sweet dreams ;-) One thing I've wondered about... When you update X or nvidia drivers, do you need to kill X before running emerge? I usually dread kernel updates because then I have to go through kernel menuconfig all over again, and for me, that takes some time. I guess one can reuse the old .config file, but I understand it's not always a safe thing to do. Is it reasonably ok to wait for every major 2.6.x release to update, or is it necessary to update on every minor 2.6.x.y release also? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] seg fault emerging abiword
Hi All, I found Gentoo a couple of weeks ago after using redhat and debian for a while. So far I love it, I've managed to get everything configured the way I want and it seems so much more stable. My only little problem is that when I try to emerge AbiWord (2.4.5-r1), it compiles fine but when it tries to install to files into the real filesystem it segfaults like so: /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/system.profile-zh-CN --- /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/ /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/xap_UnixDlg_Image.glade /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/xap_UnixDlg_WindowMore.glade /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/ap_UnixDialog_New.glade /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/xap_UnixDlg_Encoding.glade /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/xap_UnixDlg_Language.glade /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/ap_UnixDialog_Options_ColorSel.glade /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/ap_UnixDialog_Options.glade /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/ap_UnixDialog_WordCount.glade /usr/share/AbiSuite-2.4/AbiWord/glade/ap_UnixDialog_Styles.glade Segmentation fault I can't find anything in the emerge logs, it only mentions going to merge abiword then nothing. I have searched on google but am unable to find anything relevant. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Mat Harris pgpwJvK1otnZY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: two identical /etc/sudoers -- only one works
m450 backups # ls -al / total 72 drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Apr 29 13:38 . drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Apr 29 13:38 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 19 10:36 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 17 18:07 boot drwxr-xr-x 16 root root 13460 May 25 14:39 dev drwxr-xr-x 57 root root 4096 May 22 01:51 etc drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 May 1 00:08 home drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 May 19 22:29 lib drwx-- 2 root root 16384 Apr 26 15:35 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 May 6 23:46 mnt drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 29 02:47 opt dr-xr-xr-x 72 root root 0 May 17 14:13 proc drwx-- 6 root root 4096 May 27 13:13 root drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 19 22:29 sbin drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 0 May 17 14:13 sys drwxrwxrwt 11 root root 4096 May 27 14:35 tmp drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 May 19 13:42 usr drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Apr 28 20:36 var Note the permissions for / drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Apr 29 13:38 . Everybody needs to have x in order to even read any files in there. As root, try... chmod 755 / My permissions are just like yours. Nevertheless I did what you suggested and ... hey, presto! permission is no longer denied. sudo works too. Thanks Walter! mw Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Why doesn't esearch find exact packages? [Bug: 180307]
Is this a known issue with a fix coming or is this by design (which seems shockingly short-sighted). I searched bugs.gentoo.org for quite a while and didn't see anything like this amongst the bajillion other portage bugs, so I added a new one: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180307 Why can't I just search for an exact package (like to find out which versions I have installed/available, or other info). daevid ~ # esearch python | less [ Results for search key : python ] [ Applications found : 54 ] * dev-lang/python Latest version available: 2.4.4-r4 Latest version installed: 2.4.4 Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] Homepage:http://www.python.org/ Description: Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming language. License: PSF-2.2 daevid ~ # esearch dev-lang/python [ Results for search key : dev-lang/python ] [ Applications found : 0 ] Yes, I can use eix, but I don't have this on all my boxes, nor do I want to install it and maintain yet another package cache and all that (for example, on a dev VMWare guest that I want to keep as small as possible). daevid ~ # eix dev-lang/python [U] dev-lang/python Available versions: (2.3) 2.3.5-r2 2.3.5-r3 ~2.3.6 ~2.3.6-r2 (2.4) 2.4.3-r1 2.4.3-r4 2.4.4 2.4.4-r4 (2.5) [M]~2.5-r2 [M]~2.5.1-r2 Installed: 2.3.5-r2(2.3)(17:50:44 09/10/05)(X berkdb -bootstrap -build -doc gdbm ipv6 ncurses -nocxx readline ssl -tcltk -ucs2) 2.4.4(2.4)(00:06:19 05/12/07)(berkdb -bootstrap -build -doc gdbm ipv6 ncurses -nocxx readline ssl -tk -ucs2) Homepage:http://www.python.org/ Description: Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming language. ÐÆ5ÏÐ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk
Mick wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2007 14:36, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote: I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just crashed. I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive to mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her. Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be able to make this happen? If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much nothing you can do. On the other hand if it is a matter of an MS OS crash, just use a LiveCD and save the data onto a DVD/CDROM, CF memory stick, or a server. Tried something like that, no good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 27 May 2007, Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote: I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just crashed. I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive to mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her. Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be able to make this happen? If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much nothing you can do. Wrong. If the drive suffered a head crash, you would be amazed what data recovery experts can do. They are very expensive, if I recall correctly? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk
Albert Hopkins wrote: On Sun, 2007-05-27 at 09:26 -0400, sean wrote: I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just crashed. I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive to mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her. Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be able to make this happen? If the drive experienced a head crash, then there is pretty much nothing you can do. -- Albert W. Hopkins I think it is such a crash. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/29/07, Tim Allinghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last thing before I hop off each night, emerge --sync followed by a -pv -uDN world, if I'm happy I fire it up and head to bed :) I'm sure that makes for particularly sweet dreams ;-) One thing I've wondered about... When you update X or nvidia drivers, do you need to kill X before running emerge? I've never done it *before* the emerge, but I usually restart after the merge, like any other service. Only time I've ever had a problem with a program running while emerging is with a glibc upgrade a while back screwing with a running Firefox, restarting Firefox solved things. I usually dread kernel updates because then I have to go through kernel menuconfig all over again, and for me, that takes some time. I guess one can reuse the old .config file, but I understand it's not always a safe thing to do. Is it reasonably ok to wait for every major 2.6.x release to update, or is it necessary to update on every minor 2.6.x.y release also? I use 'gunzip -c /proc/config.gz .config make oldconfig' consistently, never had a problem. I always keep a working kernel in grub.conf in case of screwups, and I read the options very carefully before selecting. One caveat: going from 2.4 to 2.6 I reconfigured by hand from scratch. Whenever we get to 2.8 (or whatever the next major release is), I'll do that again. -- Ryan W Sims -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 22:20 -0400, Ryan Sims wrote: On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/29/07, Tim Allinghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last thing before I hop off each night, emerge --sync followed by a -pv -uDN world, if I'm happy I fire it up and head to bed :) I'm sure that makes for particularly sweet dreams ;-) One thing I've wondered about... When you update X or nvidia drivers, do you need to kill X before running emerge? I've never done it *before* the emerge, but I usually restart after the merge, like any other service. Only time I've ever had a problem with a program running while emerging is with a glibc upgrade a while back screwing with a running Firefox, restarting Firefox solved things. I usually dread kernel updates because then I have to go through kernel menuconfig all over again, and for me, that takes some time. I guess one can reuse the old .config file, but I understand it's not always a safe thing to do. Is it reasonably ok to wait for every major 2.6.x release to update, or is it necessary to update on every minor 2.6.x.y release also? I use 'gunzip -c /proc/config.gz .config make oldconfig' consistently, never had a problem. I always keep a working kernel in grub.conf in case of screwups, and I read the options very carefully before selecting. One caveat: going from 2.4 to 2.6 I reconfigured by hand from scratch. Whenever we get to 2.8 (or whatever the next major release is), I'll do that again. If you wanted to shorten your command, I believe zcat does the exact same thing as gunzip -c -Michael Sullivan- -- Ryan W Sims -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On 5/29/07, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use 'gunzip -c /proc/config.gz .config make oldconfig' consistently, never had a problem. I always keep a working kernel in Oh neat-o! I didn't know there was a copy of the running config in /proc... Does this basically just insert the current kernel configuration inside the menuconfig interface of the new kernel as the starting point? How does this play with the new kernel options that have since appeared or those that have been eliminated? I suppose you still have to check over every menu in the new kernel to make sure you're not missing anything... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to mount a bad disk
Mark Kirkwood wrote: sean wrote: I have a Windows XP driver here that belongs to a friend that just crashed. I am trying to figure out if there is some way I can force the drive to mount on my system so that I can get some data off it for her. Not having much luck, would anyone have any tips as to how I might be able to make this happen? What happened when you tried to mount it (and is it formatted NTFS or FATXX)? If the disk has real errors (i.e bad sectors as opposed to software/windows problems), then app-forensics/autopsy might get the important user data off. Cheers Mark Tried to mount it as NTFS. Not familiar with this software, will have to check it out. Thanks Sean -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On 5/29/07, Denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I usually dread kernel updates because then I have to go through kernel menuconfig all over again, and for me, that takes some time. I guess one can reuse the old .config file, but I understand it's not always a safe thing to do. Is it reasonably ok to wait for every major 2.6.x release to update, or is it necessary to update on every minor 2.6.x.y release also? You can use the old .config safely if you make oldconfig before anything else. It will prompt you for replies to any new things, and quietly ditch anything it doesn't recognize. I've been doing this for years. I mostly reply no to all the prompts, but sometimes the new stuff is interesting. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FW: mail-mta/exim (is blocking mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2) (more info added)
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 06:51:12 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Tuesday 29 May 2007 10:32:23 Daevid Vincent wrote: * mail-mta/exim Latest version available: 4.67 Latest version installed: 4.54 Size of downloaded files: [no/bad digest] Homepage:http://www.exim.org/ So I have this in my package.mask: =mail-mta/exim-4.55 [SNIP] [nomerge ] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r10 [4.1-r9] [ebuild N] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2 USE=ipv6 ssl -mailwrapper vixie-cron has a run-time dependency on virtual/mta which can be satisfied by both exim and ssmtp (and 8 other packages in the tree). ssmtp is the default provider. It matters despite the nomerge because it's a run-time dependency rather than build-time. You have at least four options. Another, less tenable, option is to use paludis as your package manager. It will satisfy dependencies (including virtuals) with installed packages. Also, paludis's --show-reasons summary option is usually easier to understand and more informative than emerge/portage's --tree option. However, paludis does have some missing features that may be critical for your environment: binary packages (both building and using) and a revdep-rebuild equivalent (although this can be hacked around) AND you can't simply switch between using paludis and emerge/portage; they use the same VDB, but repositories are configured differently and paludis can perform some caching that emerge/portage will not use/update. It also runs the ebuild test phase by default which results in more merge failures and thus more required interaction; you can turn that off if you desire. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp5UWuEL5RKe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
On Tuesday 29 May 2007 09:01:39 Denis wrote: I'm curious to know your approach to keeping your Gentoo box current without it becoming a full-time job. I'm not talking about maintaining servers - just your daily driver, so to say. In server-land I would perform all upgrades on a test system before rolling to production anyway. How often do you sync with the current portage tree and compare it your versions in world? I sync, update system and world, and then revdep-rebuild daily. I run ~amd64. Unfortunately, this can get you into some sticky situations: my pdns still doesn't like my new postgres. If you are running stable, it's much less likely to result in bad situations, and you should be able to put off upgrades much longer. A daily (or weekly) sync is still a good idea IMHO; having an up-to-date tree is rarely a disadvantage. How often to you update major components, like Xorg, kernel, and system tool chain? I live on the edge and treat them like any other package. Well, 'cept the kernel, which I only actually compile and reboot into occasionally. If you don't have time to wrestle with issues, but off the upgrade. Nothing sucks worse than not having the time to fix X, but needing it to work/play and having to broken. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgp07TFMJOymi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] how do you keep up with system administration?
While we're on the subject of administration, I have a question about emerge. Sometimes emerge would display important information in green or yellow stars after it's finished merging a package - such as warnings or valuable tips. However, if emerge is processing several packages in a chain, it flashes that information for several seconds and then moves right along to the next package, and usually I'm not fast enough to read/remember it. Can this information be retrieved? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
