[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm
Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow -
I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down
to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work
better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to
do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance
(less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't
think big honking fenders would work as well.
More tomorrow...
On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel wrote:
> You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend
> I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in
> order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the
> fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still
> pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
>
> But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
>
> -nathan
>
> On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote:
>
>
>
> > I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
> > just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
> > recently upped them to the 50mm.
>
> > -gino
>
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban wrote:
> >> I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud
> >> stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
> >> Honjos.
>
> >> Anyone have any experience?
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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Chainring Clearance
It's pretty tight. But I figured, as long as there was _some_ clearance, it didn't matter to me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/7850...@n06/4189629392/ Horace. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Eric Norris wrote: > Just wondering how much clearance other QBs have between the inner > chainring and the chainstay on their stock bikes (first gen). > > --Eric > campyonly...@me.com > www.campyonly.com > www.wheelsnorth.org > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Chainring Clearance
Barely any! I have often thought that the slightest tweak of the chain ring would cause it to hit the stay each revolution. Haven't ever had that problem, though. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Eric Norris wrote: From: Eric Norris Subject: [RBW] Quickbeam Chainring Clearance To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 7:46 PM Just wondering how much clearance other QBs have between the inner chainring and the chainstay on their stock bikes (first gen). --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: calendars?
Sign me up. You can even make the calendar run from January to January. I just look at the pictures. On Dec 15, 1:46 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > on 12/14/09 11:01 PM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > So, time is getting kinda tight. Did I miss an email about a current > > classics calendar for 2010? > > No. > > Here's the plan at this point - > > Assuming I can get enough pre-orders (which I _don't_ think will be an > issue), the 2010 calendar will run from February to January 2011. The > turnaround looks to be a mid-January ship date to you. > > Email was going to go out tomorrow (work/class crunch right now). > > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > Workshops of the iBob's > > Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > "My nighttime attitude is anyone can run you down and get away with it. > That's why I don't even own a bike light or one of those godawful reflective > suits. Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to > see you in order for you to be safe...you've already blown it." > -- Neal Stephenson, "Zodiac" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
Thanks. I thought that you had to be operating a motorized vehicle for your UM/UIM coverage to kick in, but apparently not. That gives me a better feeling of security. My widow and children can benefit from my bike riding. On Dec 15, 5:26 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > UIM is meant to cover damages to you that the other party's liability > insurance ought to have covered if he had it, or if he had enough of it. If > someone hits you and is at fault (in the insurance sense, not a legal > sense), then his insurance is contractually obligated to reimburse you. If > he doesn't have it or doesn't have enough, your own UIM coverage takes its > place. > > I am sure because (1) I sold the stuff and (2) I received a UIM payout, > temporarily, when I got hit in 2006 and the poleece report said that the > hitter had no insurance. (His momma had insurance, but my UIM kicked in > until my company figured that out.) > > Your UIM will cover you in any situation, riding, walking, sitting, lying, > levitating, for which you might have a right to be compensated by someone > else's liability coverage, were he driving his insured vehicle and, at fault > in the insurance sense, did you damages that can be represented in some way > in terms of money. > > "At fault in the insurance sense" doesn't mean he broke some law, it just > means that he and not you or some third party caused the damage to you and > yours. > > So yes, I am sure. > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:37 PM, R Gonet wrote: > > > > > > > Patrick: Are you sure your auto underinsured coverage covers you > > while on a bicycle? I hope you're correct, but I haven't seen that in > > my policy. > > > On Dec 15, 3:50 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > Your home or renter's insurance will not cover accidents. If you have an > > > accident and the other party is at fault, then (1) if he has insurance, > > his > > > property liability will cover it. If (2) he does not have it, or has too > > > little, your own auto Uninsured/Underinsured coverage will cover it. > > > > If you know how to talk to an adjuster, you will get your money's worth > > -- > > > at least, if the company is a reputable one: Hartford, Progessive, > > Travelers > > > and the other prime companies I now gleefully forget. Your bottom feeder > > > companies are often amenable to a letter saying, in effect: "I think > > $ > > > is fair. I have given good reasons why it is fair. if you want to jerk me > > > around, I will hire a lawyer. If I hire a lawyer, then you can pay $ > > > PLUS my lawyer's fees. Have a nice day. Sincerely yours, etc." > > > > On the two occasions I've had to claim for bicycle losses -- one a theft, > > > the second an accident -- I got full and prompt settlement -- heck, even > > > made a bit on the deals. > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Ken Yokanovich < > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > e...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: parts for sale: Xtracycle, nitto, etc.
The shimano bar ends are 9 speed. The Xtracycle is for 26" wheels, though I run 650b on it now. Includes only the extension, no bags or other accessories. On Dec 15, 7:23 pm, "colin p. cummings" wrote: > Must clear stuff out... > > Xtracycle Free Radical: $140 plus shipping (no accessories included, > pics/info available) > > Nitto tech stem 8cm extension: $35 shipped > > Nitto Noodle 44cm: $40 shipped > > Shimano bar ends (friction/index): $40 shipped > > Please contact me off list. > > Cheers, > > Colin Cummings > Amarillo, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: calendars?
I'm sure it will be in good taste. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Mark wrote: > > > Will the bicycles be nude? > > I couldnt resist. :)) > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] calendars?
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:46 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > on 12/14/09 11:01 PM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: > >> So, time is getting kinda tight. Did I miss an email about a current >> classics calendar for 2010? > > No. > > Here's the plan at this point - > > Assuming I can get enough pre-orders (which I _don't_ think will be an > issue), the 2010 calendar will run from February to January 2011. The > turnaround looks to be a mid-January ship date to you. > > Email was going to go out tomorrow (work/class crunch right now). > Cool. Count me in for a pre-order. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Quickbeam Chainring Clearance
Just wondering how much clearance other QBs have between the inner chainring and the chainstay on their stock bikes (first gen). --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
I don't use GK pedals because they don't appear wide enough for my wide feet. I had been using Crank Bros. 50/50 pedals and now use a Taiwanese brand magnesium pedal with sealed bearings. These grip a little better than the Crank Bros. and seem to be of higher quality. I have been riding retentionless now for about 15,000 miles on various pedals and I don't get numb feet. I ride with Tevas and now with my LaCrosse duck boots for winter. I also ride with any other shoe I own depending on where I am going or what I need to be wearing when I get there. There just is no reason in my experience to use any form of retention when a large surface area pedal with traction pins works just as well. Its just common sense that a large surface area pedal will distribute the pressure out on my feet no matter what shoe I wear. If I had rubber covers I could ride barefoot. I never have dismount problems either unlike when I feel over ( three times) when using clip in shoes. On Dec 15, 6:26 am, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King > pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. > > I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides > started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a > problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use > those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely > successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with > the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little > uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always > in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't > pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. > Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't > have to? > > This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased > surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom > of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any > thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them > relieved by using the Grip Kings? > > Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up > some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece > of mind. > > Thanks, > Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne for a triathlon and a visit to RBWHQ (My first Riv!)
I participate in one sprint triathlon a year (the Canby Telephone Gator Grinder). Way fun. I am on a steel bike (my Lemond Zurich, not my Riv), but there is also an MTB category, and I've seen everything out there. I think part of it is that many of the participants do not take this too seriously. Ride what you want. Have fun. Lynne F On Dec 14, 10:36 am, Jason wrote: > Awesome to hear, I'm just starting to see how much variability there > is. Asking the tri folks so far there hasn't been a single person who > was riding or suggesting steel. Hopefully someday I'll be in the happy/ > fast/steel ridin' category. Right now I'm 2 out of 3. > > On Dec 14, 9:35 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > wrote: > > > > > We had a guy come in to the shop a couple years ago to buy some canvas/ > > leather bags for his all-carbon bike. Seems strange, but you can't > > exactly clamp any luggage capacity on carbon seatstays, seatpost, or > > handlebar. > > > Anyway, he told me about his intention to do at least one brevet > > series leading up to and including PBP 2007. While we were chatting, I > > suggested a test ride on a Rambouillet, which was probably about 8-ish > > lbs heavier than his carbon bike. He liked the ride quality on a short > > test ride, but left without buying the bike. He called a week later to > > tell me he wanted to buy it, but, unfortunately, that bike had been > > sold, and the only one I had left seemed too big. He said he wasn't > > sensitive to bike-fit and decided to buy the bigger bike despite my > > apprehensions. I lowered the saddle as low as it would go, and sent > > him on his way. A few weeks later, he told me he loved the bike and > > was, in fact, noticeably faster on some of his regular training loops > > than he was on the same loops with his lighter bike. I watched the > > brevet results come in all season, and noted that this guy was > > consistently one of the fastest riders. (it should be noted the he > > didn't fit my stereotype of a fast rider: middle-aged, stocky, etc, > > but he is WAY faster than me, and I'm 25 years younger!) He did it all > > on a "heavy" bike with comparatively wide, heavy tires. > > > The point is that the weight of the bike and the width of the tire is > > way less important than people think it is. I know guys who go ga-ga > > over 16-lb bikes with all the trimmings and then ride "long" 20-mile > > flat-terrain rides all-out at 12 mph, and I know others who ride 38-lb > > super-commuters with big tires and cruise long distances closer to 20 > > mph. > > > On Dec 13, 11:55 pm, Jason wrote: > > > > This is a follow up to the post "Visit to RBWHQ and Sam Hillborne > > > purchase" (It's a little long but I wanted to include everything I > > > wish I'd known when I started looking at the Hillborne) > > > > After much resistance my wife got me to take a Sam Hillborne for a > > > test ride and the next thing I knew I'd handed over a credit card for > > > a deposit. > > > > I'm new to cycling, in November I signed up with team-in-training to > > > do a triathlon and raise money for cancer research. Up until this > > > point I've been happy with any bike that rolls, but I've never really > > > enjoyed riding. > > > > The tri that I'm doing is an Olympic, so the biking distance is only > > > 25 miles. That said, I have a hard time being passed, so I didn't want > > > to get a bike that would slow me down too much. The bike that I've > > > been riding is an aluminum Giant with really compact geometry. > > > > As soon as I test rode the Hillborne I noticed that I could breath > > > better (and I was smiling). My posture felt much more natural, chest > > > more open. I think the combination of a longer top tube, a higher/less > > > aggressive handlebar height, and wider handle bars made for much > > > better breathing (and probably more belly room). > > > > The Hillborne rides beautifully, and the feel of the steel is much > > > more humane than what I'm used to with my aluminum bike. > > > > The tires on the shop bike were chubby and plush. I was initially > > > talked out of getting thinner tires and ended up calling back to > > > meekly request the the Ruffy Tuffy tires (it felt like ordering a > > > steak at a vegan restaurant). The Ruffys are a great ride and all the > > > reviews say they are nearly impossible to puncture. They feel faster > > > than the larger tires, and even though everyone at Rivendell said they > > > looked strangely thin, they're 28mm and do a good job on the > > > treacherous San Francico streets. > > > > Notes on the rest of the build: > > > > Wheels: I went for the budget wheel set. I met Rich Lesnik on my first > > > visit and he couldn't have been nicer. If you don't know about Rich, > > > he builds all the Riv custom wheel sets (here's his > > > website:http://handsonwheels.com/). What I didn't know is that Rich also > > > tunes > > > all of the "budget" wheel sets. There's some cache with getting Rich > > > to build you
[RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
I have a colleague at work who has a rider on his homeowner's policy which specifically insures his bikes (he has three high end bikes) against theft. This colleague has had several bikes stolen and always gets satisfaction from his insurance carrier (unusual in my experience). His carrier is State Farm. The last time he was separated from one of his bikes, he replaced it with a particularly nice bike built to his specifications including a Rohloff hub. The bike that was stolen was an older full suspension Gary Fisher (probably cost $2 - 3K new). This colleague lives in San Francisco. I do not believe the latest bike was stolen from his residence - otherwise they probably would have taken one of his other steeds - the Gary Fisher is not his nicest. As I recall, the rider to his policy cost something on the order of $100 - $200 per year extra. I think the rider must provide for replacement cost. I'm sure he had to pay his deductible - but that is probably minimal. My experience with claims adjusters is much closer to Ken's. After a fire destroyed our house, we had a long fight with the adjusters about what they would pay. It eventually came down to what you replaced. If you did not replace something - they might agree on the price you claimed (all my data was checked against receipts and/or the web) - but they would counter that by depreciating the item so much that the original value was insignificant (sometimes we only got 10 cents on the dollar). If you replaced something, you usually got reimbursed for the full replacement price up to the policy limit. I don't think Ken is being cynical. Ken was clearly harassed by a claims adjuster who mistook holding the line on claims fraud (not that Ken's claim was in any way fraudulent - just that insurance companies tend to see fraud or the potential for fraud in many places) as good customer service. Please excuse the long rant. Corwin On Dec 15, 10:11 am, Seth Vidal wrote: > Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for > bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my > homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that > and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that > explicitly offers bike-theft insurance? > > thanks, > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Local Redlands company! Not much of a outlet/seconds presence, so don't make the trip just for that. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Ray Shine wrote: > Steve - These are the shoes I wore on my last tour. They were very comfy > on the Grip Kings. > > http://www.fiveten.com/ > > --- On *Tue, 12/15/09, Ray Shine * wrote: > > > From: Ray Shine > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 8:51 AM > > > Steve -- I should have added that Power Grips DO MOUNT to GripKing pedals. > Despite what some other posters are saying, mine were mounted quite well > with just minor alterations. For instance, you must remove the reflectors > from each pedal, and use a plastic spacer on the strap end side. I might > have some pix of the set up. If I find any, I'll post them. > > The other thing I'd like t point out about the Power Grips is that to > remove your foot -- let's say the right foot -- you need to push the heel > out then pull the foot back to free the shoe from the strap. That is the > exact same movement you do to release from a cleated pedal. There's really > no difference. > > Ray > > --- On *Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce * wrote: > > > From: Bruce > Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:47 AM > > Steve: > > I suffered from cold feet when I was clipped in to either spd or look > style pedals. I also did not like having my feet locked in just one location > on the pedals. Thanks to a suggestion from another list member, I tried > Power Grip straps on MKS touring pedals. They work well. The straps allow me > to pull up on the pedals and bring hip flexors to bear which is good for > climbing in my case. The grip kings are no difficulty at all to get out of > if you bog down going uphill or though sloshy stuff and need to get your > feet down fast. RBW sells them and you also find them elsewhere. You enter > them on a slant, and when your feet straighten, they are quite secure. > I've been pedaling the past 6 months with nothing at all, which is how > Grant recommends, but just this weekend put the power grips back on. They > just work for me. They also work with many other pedals, but not Grip Kings. > Grip Kings are great pedals so far. They are on my touring bike and I did > a 3 day self supported tour with them, and with no straps, clips, etc. Their > extra length provides excellent support for your entire foot. Contrary to > the name, they are NOT the kings of grip. MKS calls them "Lambdas." They > are fine for temperature regulation of your feet in cold weather, which was > your original question. That is, if you wear the right socks and footwear. > > Tailwinds > > -- > *From:* Steve Wimberg > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Tue, December 15, 2009 8:26:17 AM > *Subject:* [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet > > I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King > pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. > > I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides > started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a > problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use > those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely > successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with > the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little > uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always > in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't > pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. > Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't > have to? > > This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased > surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom > of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any > thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them > relieved by using the Grip Kings? > > Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up > some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece > of mind. > > Thanks, > Steve > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this
Re: [RBW] parts for sale: Xtracycle, nitto, etc.
Sorry for the off-list blunder... Dave - Original Message - From: David Faller To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] parts for sale: Xtracycle, nitto, etc. Is your Nitto stem in really nice shape? I think I'd like it, unless it's got some deep uglies. Let me know. I'd be replacing my very clean 9 cm Nitto technomic deluxe. Oh, and payment method? Thanks! dfal...@charter.net Redding Dave - Original Message - From: colin p. cummings To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: [RBW] parts for sale: Xtracycle, nitto, etc. Must clear stuff out... Xtracycle Free Radical: $140 plus shipping (no accessories included, pics/info available) Nitto tech stem 8cm extension: $35 shipped Nitto Noodle 44cm: $40 shipped Shimano bar ends (friction/index): $40 shipped Please contact me off list. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] parts for sale: Xtracycle, nitto, etc.
Is your Nitto stem in really nice shape? I think I'd like it, unless it's got some deep uglies. Let me know. I'd be replacing my very clean 9 cm Nitto technomic deluxe. Oh, and payment method? Thanks! dfal...@charter.net Redding Dave - Original Message - From: colin p. cummings To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: [RBW] parts for sale: Xtracycle, nitto, etc. Must clear stuff out... Xtracycle Free Radical: $140 plus shipping (no accessories included, pics/info available) Nitto tech stem 8cm extension: $35 shipped Nitto Noodle 44cm: $40 shipped Shimano bar ends (friction/index): $40 shipped Please contact me off list. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: ST Glove review - Rivendell winter gloves
The only time I had a pair of gloves that fit was back in the days after the pill and before herpes. I had a pair of gloves made by an Austrian woman who had a small room in a building full of clothing sub- contractors and bright young things creating a label on daddy's money or a loan from the boyfriend. She made me a pair of motorcycle gloves which were really a pair of winter riding gloves as worn by the Heavy Cavalry in Austria. They really did fit like a glove as she explained to me, between reminiscinces about life in Vienna when she wore the Emperor's badge, the human body is not symmetrical and your hands are different sizes to each other let alone anyone else's hands. When it comes to "off the shelf" gloves, the best you can hope for is a rough approximation. Personally, I shop for gloves from german suppliers which fit on the thumb and first two fingers but the other two especially the little finger are too long. regards George Millwood Sydney, Australia On Dec 16, 4:50 am, jim_OLP wrote: > I don't think I've ever had gloves or mittens where the thumb wasn't > too short. They all seem to be made for the species that came right > before us. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] parts for sale: Xtracycle, nitto, etc.
Must clear stuff out... Xtracycle Free Radical: $140 plus shipping (no accessories included, pics/info available) Nitto tech stem 8cm extension: $35 shipped Nitto Noodle 44cm: $40 shipped Shimano bar ends (friction/index): $40 shipped Please contact me off list. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne for a triathlon and a visit to RBWHQ (My first Riv!)
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:58 AM, beth h wrote: > On Dec 14, 12:55 pm, Bruce wrote: > > Cheryl: > > There may be others on this list who would like to introduce their wive's > (or significant others) to you. You can parlay it into a career of > "Rivendell Sensitivity Training" > > Hear, hear. But let's not forget that there are many on this list with > understanding spouses/partners/S.O.'s who understand without being > enthusiastic or year-round riders themselves. I am blessed with such a > partner. She's so cool that when we walk down the street she'll notice > the cool bikes before I do now: "Honey, look at those lugs. Aren't > they gorgeous?" > > Life is good. > Beth > > -- > > Agreed. Living with someone who appreciates these things is pretty cool! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
I've used this front/rear-switcharoo technique before, but also had a similar concern about the rigidity. The trick I used was: - clamp one of the recessed bolts in vice - drill-out the allen-head end - hold it in place from below the crown using a needle nose plier - spin the rear-brake down onto this now "coupler"-bolt - use a M5 (or whatever it is) allen to tighten things up, as one would a traditional nutted front brake =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 12/15/09, Jim Cloud wrote: > Thanks for your suggestion Phil. I'd seen this on some blog as a > possible solution. I'm not really certain that this method, however, > it as safe an approach as I'd like. It seems to me that the brake > would not have as much rigidity as would be needed under hard braking. > > Jim > > On Dec 15, 11:05 am, Phil Brown wrote: >> On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud wrote: >> >> > Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell >> > Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a >> > Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was >> > possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a "cheap" Tektro 800 >> > brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. >> >> > By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro >> > R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify >> > a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a >> > conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27" wheel size to 700c. >> >> > Jim Cloud >> > Tucson, AZ >> >> Put the front on the rear and put the rear on the front with the nut- >> Allen-inside the steerer and accessed through the hole in the rear of >> the crown. >> Phil Brown > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
I'm glad to find someone who has actually used the approach of replacing the center pivot bolt. I'd like to know how difficult it was to install the pivot bolt on the Tektro R556, did it require a considerable amount of effort to dismantle the brake assemby? Or is this a rather easy Sunday afternoon project? Did you experience any particular difficulties in the procedure? Thanks, Jim On Dec 15, 12:01 pm, "rswat...@me.com" wrote: > On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Jim Cloud wrote: > > > Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell > > Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a > > Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was > > possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a "cheap" Tektro 800 > > brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. > > I've modified a Tektro R556 that way, using R800A bolts. Silver's are > the same brake with a different logo. > I might have even been the one who first posted that over on the 650B > list. > It's a little tedious, but nothing major. The bolts have two different > sized threaded bits on them as well as a little set screw. It takes a > little fiddling to find the sweet spot where they pivot freely, but > don't have too much play. > > Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
Thanks for your suggestion Phil. I'd seen this on some blog as a possible solution. I'm not really certain that this method, however, it as safe an approach as I'd like. It seems to me that the brake would not have as much rigidity as would be needed under hard braking. Jim On Dec 15, 11:05 am, Phil Brown wrote: > On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud wrote: > > > Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell > > Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a > > Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was > > possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a "cheap" Tektro 800 > > brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. > > > By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro > > R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify > > a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a > > conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27" wheel size to 700c. > > > Jim Cloud > > Tucson, AZ > > Put the front on the rear and put the rear on the front with the nut- > Allen-inside the steerer and accessed through the hole in the rear of > the crown. > Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
I will add that the most prosperous agents are those who give excellent service, including accurate and complete information about coverage and premium options as well as claims and billing assistance. The most profitable business is the long term business with clients who want coverage and not just low price, and if you give good service such clients will come to you and stay with you. We had a policy of discouraging those who wanted to buy just on premium -- real money losers, in fact - just as we focused on selling coverage and not premium. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Mark wrote: > Ken, you need to quit being cynical about Agents.Patrick is > correct, there are good ones and bad ones. If you have any doubts > about your agent or the carrier, its not too smart to have your HOME > much less your bicycle insured with them. Its not hard to find > reputable agents and good insurance carriers. As mentioned they dont > want to be sued under thier E and O coverage. > So if this is how you feel about your agent, you need to go shopping > today for a good agent and carrier. > Also take pictures of your Riv or whatever you ride. Keep a copy of > the bill of sale from RIV, and the adjuster shouldnt give you grief. > > Sincerley, Surf > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: calendars?
Will the bicycles be nude? I couldnt resist. :)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
Ken, you need to quit being cynical about Agents.Patrick is correct, there are good ones and bad ones. If you have any doubts about your agent or the carrier, its not too smart to have your HOME much less your bicycle insured with them. Its not hard to find reputable agents and good insurance carriers. As mentioned they dont want to be sued under thier E and O coverage. So if this is how you feel about your agent, you need to go shopping today for a good agent and carrier. Also take pictures of your Riv or whatever you ride. Keep a copy of the bill of sale from RIV, and the adjuster shouldnt give you grief. Sincerley, Surf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
UIM is meant to cover damages to you that the other party's liability insurance ought to have covered if he had it, or if he had enough of it. If someone hits you and is at fault (in the insurance sense, not a legal sense), then his insurance is contractually obligated to reimburse you. If he doesn't have it or doesn't have enough, your own UIM coverage takes its place. I am sure because (1) I sold the stuff and (2) I received a UIM payout, temporarily, when I got hit in 2006 and the poleece report said that the hitter had no insurance. (His momma had insurance, but my UIM kicked in until my company figured that out.) Your UIM will cover you in any situation, riding, walking, sitting, lying, levitating, for which you might have a right to be compensated by someone else's liability coverage, were he driving his insured vehicle and, at fault in the insurance sense, did you damages that can be represented in some way in terms of money. "At fault in the insurance sense" doesn't mean he broke some law, it just means that he and not you or some third party caused the damage to you and yours. So yes, I am sure. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:37 PM, R Gonet wrote: > Patrick: Are you sure your auto underinsured coverage covers you > while on a bicycle? I hope you're correct, but I haven't seen that in > my policy. > > On Dec 15, 3:50 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > Your home or renter's insurance will not cover accidents. If you have an > > accident and the other party is at fault, then (1) if he has insurance, > his > > property liability will cover it. If (2) he does not have it, or has too > > little, your own auto Uninsured/Underinsured coverage will cover it. > > > > If you know how to talk to an adjuster, you will get your money's worth > -- > > at least, if the company is a reputable one: Hartford, Progessive, > Travelers > > and the other prime companies I now gleefully forget. Your bottom feeder > > companies are often amenable to a letter saying, in effect: "I think > $ > > is fair. I have given good reasons why it is fair. if you want to jerk me > > around, I will hire a lawyer. If I hire a lawyer, then you can pay $ > > PLUS my lawyer's fees. Have a nice day. Sincerely yours, etc." > > > > On the two occasions I've had to claim for bicycle losses -- one a theft, > > the second an accident -- I got full and prompt settlement -- heck, even > > made a bit on the deals. > > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Ken Yokanovich < > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend
I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in
order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the
fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still
pretty: http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/
But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :)
-nathan
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote:
> I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works
> just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but
> recently upped them to the 50mm.
>
> -gino
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban wrote:
>> I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud
>> stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the
>> Honjos.
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Re: [RBW] Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but recently upped them to the 50mm. -gino On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban wrote: > I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud > stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the > Honjos. > > Anyone have any experience? > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
I have 50mm fluted Honjos on the bike now, and the fender line is perfect with CdlVs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4156647923/ The Protovelo is a custom from Mark Nobilette, built to resemble the geometry of a Saluki, but its different in small ways (lugs) and maybe larger ways (the seat stay bridge looks rather low to me). Of course, this bike is a great candidate for the Pari-Moto, which I have on order. But wouldn't it be fun to run some fatter Hetres in there!? I have them, and I"m going to see if they fit - if not they'll go on another bike. Maybe I'll have to buy another bike to fit them :) Here's where they say 50mm Berthouds are preferable on the Herse site: http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-144/Berthoud-650b-x-50mm/Detail But, of course, their bikes are built for the Hetre. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 15, 12:50 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 11:35 -0800, rcnute wrote: > > I tried with a Bleriot and Saluki (50mm Berthouds). Front fits fine. > > Rear does not (brake bridge won't allow enough clearance). > > Perhaps the size of the frame matters. On my 60cm Saluki, Hetres fit > fine. I'm using 57mm Honjos with them. I had stainless 50mm Berthouds, > but I thought the clearance with those fenders was insufficient -- and > besides, I had another P/R coming, and I wanted to use the Berthouds on > that bike. I had to modify the Honjos to get them to fit between the > chainstays. Photos > here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/show/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
Patrick: Are you sure your auto underinsured coverage covers you while on a bicycle? I hope you're correct, but I haven't seen that in my policy. On Dec 15, 3:50 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > Your home or renter's insurance will not cover accidents. If you have an > accident and the other party is at fault, then (1) if he has insurance, his > property liability will cover it. If (2) he does not have it, or has too > little, your own auto Uninsured/Underinsured coverage will cover it. > > If you know how to talk to an adjuster, you will get your money's worth -- > at least, if the company is a reputable one: Hartford, Progessive, Travelers > and the other prime companies I now gleefully forget. Your bottom feeder > companies are often amenable to a letter saying, in effect: "I think $ > is fair. I have given good reasons why it is fair. if you want to jerk me > around, I will hire a lawyer. If I hire a lawyer, then you can pay $ > PLUS my lawyer's fees. Have a nice day. Sincerely yours, etc." > > On the two occasions I've had to claim for bicycle losses -- one a theft, > the second an accident -- I got full and prompt settlement -- heck, even > made a bit on the deals. > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Ken Yokanovich < > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Ray: You are correct, you do have to remove the reflectors to use Power Grips with the Grip Kings. I didn't need to make any other alterations, though. I'm curious about your use of plastic spacers on the strap end side, since I needed no such modifications. The important point to make is that they *DO mount* to the Grip Kings with little effort. I'd also like to point out that I used to use the Power Grips for mountain biking, where you often have to get off the pedal ASAP with little warning, and I never once got hung up on them. When you're not thinking about it, it just happens. On Dec 15, 11:51 am, Ray Shine wrote: > Steve -- I should have added that Power Grips DO MOUNT to GripKing pedals. > Despite what some other posters are saying, mine were mounted quite well with > just minor alterations. For instance, you must remove the reflectors from > each pedal, and use a plastic spacer on the strap end side. I might have > some pix of the set up. If I find any, I'll post them. > > The other thing I'd like t point out about the Power Grips is that to remove > your foot -- let's say the right foot -- you need to push the heel out then > pull the foot back to free the shoe from the strap. That is the exact same > movement you do to release from a cleated pedal. There's really no difference. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Steve: I attached the PG's according to the directions. I don't think I can write a description, but if you still want, I will take a pic and send it to you off-list. As another list member noted, you do have to pop off the reflectors from the pedal, but when I ride at night I have blinkies, reflective tape, spoke reflectors, and one of Grant's reflexite triangles on my back. The reflectors are nice, but you do need more. > > I do like the idea of using Power Grips on the Grip Kings, but also > read that doesn't work. Richard - where to the ends of the straps > connect to the pedals? Any pix? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 09:26 -0500, Steve Wimberg wrote: > However, I have found that I get a little > uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always > in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't > pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. > Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't > have to? I suggest you practice some emergency bailouts with your clipless pedals. It's a useful skill, and it's a lot cheaper than buying new pedals. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King > pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. > > I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides > started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a > problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use > those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely > successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with > the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little > uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always > in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't > pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. > Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't > have to? > > This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased > surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom > of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any > thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them > relieved by using the Grip Kings? > > Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up > some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece > of mind. > > Thanks, > Steve > > > -- I really like the Grip Kings. I had problems with numbness with clipless pedals mainly due to the fact that I have wide feet and it was difficult to find cycling shoes that fit well. With the Grip Kings I can wear pretty much any shoe. I also like the large platform. The longest ride I have done with Grip Kings is 75 miles and I had no problems with my feet. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
A good agent isn't merely a salesman. How do I know? I was a good agent and
knew many of them who also were good ones. Besides, no agent wants to face a
due diligence lawsuit or complaint to the Insurance Commission.
Your home or renter's insurance will not cover accidents. If you have an
accident and the other party is at fault, then (1) if he has insurance, his
property liability will cover it. If (2) he does not have it, or has too
little, your own auto Uninsured/Underinsured coverage will cover it.
If you know how to talk to an adjuster, you will get your money's worth --
at least, if the company is a reputable one: Hartford, Progessive, Travelers
and the other prime companies I now gleefully forget. Your bottom feeder
companies are often amenable to a letter saying, in effect: "I think $
is fair. I have given good reasons why it is fair. if you want to jerk me
around, I will hire a lawyer. If I hire a lawyer, then you can pay $
PLUS my lawyer's fees. Have a nice day. Sincerely yours, etc."
On the two occasions I've had to claim for bicycle losses -- one a theft,
the second an accident -- I got full and prompt settlement -- heck, even
made a bit on the deals.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Ken Yokanovich <
reflector.collec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm a sceptic. There's a difference between what your agent tells you
> and what the insurance adjuster eventually says. Basically, your
> agent is the sales guy... (s)he is going to tell you whatever you
> really want to hear.
>
> In the case of my accident, my Quickbeam was destroyed. I'd rebuilt
> my bicycle with dynamo, different wheels, Phil rear hub and bottom
> bracket, Nitto front / rear racks, Brooks saddle, lights, pedals,
> Brooks bar wrap, etc. The adjuster offered $400 for the replacement
> value of the bicycle. It took over 40 weeks to come to a more
> realistic figure of what the bicycle was "worth." It was one of the
> more miserable experiences I've had to go through.
>
> How does one put a value on a bicycle that one cannot go out and buy?
> Given the nature of the Rivendell products, how would I place a value
> on my Atlantis? How about a custom? How does one go about being
> reimbursed for a multi-year wait? How about parts that you cannot go
> out and buy?
>
> If you've ever tried to justify your bicycle expenditures to someone
> INTERESTED in your bicycle, just wait until you have to try to justify
> it to someone holding the checkbook who's job it is to close the claim
> for the least amount possible.
>
> Clearly, there could be a better solution similar to specialty auto
> insurance that people might use for collector cars.
>
>
> On Dec 15, 1:59 pm, Jon Grant wrote:
> > In my only actual bike/car collision, I was clearly at fault. I injured
> > myself and damaged my bike frame, and the car I hit sustained a dented
> > fender and hood, and a crushed windshield. My homeowners policy covered
> it
> > all, though I don¹t remember whether or not I paid a deductible, or how
> much
> > it might have been.
> >
> > YM definitely MV.
> >
> > --
> > Jon ³Papa² Grant
> > Illustration + Information Graphics
> > Austin, Texas
> > jgr...@papagrant.com
> > 512-284-9599
> >
> > Drawings ‹ all sorts
> >
> > From: Clayton Scott
> > Reply-To:
> > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:37:10 -0800
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
> >
> > What about in the case of a crash (assuming it is my fault). Is there any
> > insurance that would cover that?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Clayton Scott
> > SF CA
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, CycloFiend
> wrote:
> > >> > on 12/15/09 10:11 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > >>> >> Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for
> > >>> >> bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my
> > >>> >> homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test
> that
> > >>> >> and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that
> > >>> >> explicitly offers bike-theft insurance?
> >
> > >> > Renter's/homeowner's should cover it. There may be limits on the
> policy
> > >> > payouts, and pay attention to an specific-item exclusions or limits.
> But,
> > >> if
> > >> > you have documented replacement values, it's hard for them to argue
> > >> > otherwise.
> >
> > >> > A call to your agent (if you have one) or to the company might help.
> I'd
> > >> > verbally give them a general list of items ("computers, jewelry,
> hi-fi,
> > >> > electronics, oh, and bicycles, a couple of musical instruments...")
> to
> > >> > confirm nothing is excluded or needs a specific additional coverage
> rider.
> >
> > > I specifically asked:
> >
> > > I go to a coffee shop. I ride my bike there. I lock my bike up
> > > outside. It gets nicked. What happens?
> >
> > > He said - $500 deductible and the rest is covered for replacement
> value.
> >
> > > thanks for the suggestion,
> > > -sv
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 11:35 -0800, rcnute wrote: > I tried with a Bleriot and Saluki (50mm Berthouds). Front fits fine. > Rear does not (brake bridge won't allow enough clearance). Perhaps the size of the frame matters. On my 60cm Saluki, Hetres fit fine. I'm using 57mm Honjos with them. I had stainless 50mm Berthouds, but I thought the clearance with those fenders was insufficient -- and besides, I had another P/R coming, and I wanted to use the Berthouds on that bike. I had to modify the Honjos to get them to fit between the chainstays. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/show/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
Your homeowner's or rental policy will cover it as with any other property, but it won't cover it for damages caused by an accident, AFAIK. You do have to pay the deductible. OTOH, who is to say what the original price was? I don't recommend lying and cheating, but I do recommend using full list. After all, the insurance companies are not Benevolent Societies and one has every right to get one's money's worth from them. Patrick "ex-personal lines (and small business P&C AND Life and Health) agent who has gleefully let all his licenses lapse and who says, take this job and shove it'" Moore On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Z wrote: > > Good question. Would be helpful info. > > > > I just called me insurer again and he said: > > 1. use of it outside of the home provided that the device is NOT > motorized is covered under your homeowners insurance policy. > > 2. replacement value is covered > > 3. under NC law to get replacement value the bike must be replaced, > you cannot take the money and walk away. (for the record the idea of > not replacing a bike when it gets stolen makes me sad) > > 4. Normal deductible limits apply for stolen goods. In my case a $500 > deductible. > > -sv > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com (505) 227-0523 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Last summer I put in some miles on my Hilsen with Grip Kings. They were very comfortable. The longest ride I did was 60+ miles (each way) on an extended S24O. They worked well and I do love the simplicity of wearing sneakers while out on the bike. Still, to call the pedals Grip Kings is a bit of a misnomer. While the pedals are comfy I don't know that I'd use them off road or in situations where I'd be worried about slipping off the pedal. Prior to putting the Grip Kings on my Hilsen they had been on my commuter and worked fine for that. I ended up going with clipless pedals for my tour and was fine with that, no problems at all. I ended up putting my MKS touring pedals back on the commuter and realize that those work better for my feet, just a little more comfortable and grippy. Next summer I'll definitely be doing more S24Os and I'll definitely be pedaling free. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
On Dec 15, 12:59 pm, "Frederick, Steve" wrote: > Cleat position can contribute to foot numbness, too. Try moving them back a > little. Shoe's not too tight is it? > > Not trying to convince you to stay with them if you don't want to, but if you > otherwise like the clipless pedals, there are solutions for foot numbness. the way i'm reading the OP's problem is this: he likes clipless pedals - it remedied the foot numbness experienced with flat pedals, but he isn't totally comfortable with unclipping, especially when climbing. he's now asking whether a flat pedal - Grip Kings - will solve the numbness he experienced with the MKS touring pedal. to me, this sounds more like a shoe issue (soft sole v. stiff sole) than pedal issue. an easy way to test this would be to do as Dave suggested above: take a ride on the touring pedal with the clipless cycling shoes (and perhaps some power grips/other retention device as the OP would like to retain power through the entire pedal stroke). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: insurance for bikes.
I'm a sceptic. There's a difference between what your agent tells you
and what the insurance adjuster eventually says. Basically, your
agent is the sales guy... (s)he is going to tell you whatever you
really want to hear.
In the case of my accident, my Quickbeam was destroyed. I'd rebuilt
my bicycle with dynamo, different wheels, Phil rear hub and bottom
bracket, Nitto front / rear racks, Brooks saddle, lights, pedals,
Brooks bar wrap, etc. The adjuster offered $400 for the replacement
value of the bicycle. It took over 40 weeks to come to a more
realistic figure of what the bicycle was "worth." It was one of the
more miserable experiences I've had to go through.
How does one put a value on a bicycle that one cannot go out and buy?
Given the nature of the Rivendell products, how would I place a value
on my Atlantis? How about a custom? How does one go about being
reimbursed for a multi-year wait? How about parts that you cannot go
out and buy?
If you've ever tried to justify your bicycle expenditures to someone
INTERESTED in your bicycle, just wait until you have to try to justify
it to someone holding the checkbook who's job it is to close the claim
for the least amount possible.
Clearly, there could be a better solution similar to specialty auto
insurance that people might use for collector cars.
On Dec 15, 1:59 pm, Jon Grant wrote:
> In my only actual bike/car collision, I was clearly at fault. I injured
> myself and damaged my bike frame, and the car I hit sustained a dented
> fender and hood, and a crushed windshield. My homeowners policy covered it
> all, though I don¹t remember whether or not I paid a deductible, or how much
> it might have been.
>
> YM definitely MV.
>
> --
> Jon ³Papa² Grant
> Illustration + Information Graphics
> Austin, Texas
> jgr...@papagrant.com
> 512-284-9599
>
> Drawings ‹ all sorts
>
> From: Clayton Scott
> Reply-To:
> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:37:10 -0800
> To:
> Subject: Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
>
> What about in the case of a crash (assuming it is my fault). Is there any
> insurance that would cover that?
>
> Thanks,
> Clayton Scott
> SF CA
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, CycloFiend
> > wrote:
> >> > on 12/15/09 10:11 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>> >> Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for
> >>> >> bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my
> >>> >> homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that
> >>> >> and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that
> >>> >> explicitly offers bike-theft insurance?
>
> >> > Renter's/homeowner's should cover it. There may be limits on the policy
> >> > payouts, and pay attention to an specific-item exclusions or limits. But,
> >> if
> >> > you have documented replacement values, it's hard for them to argue
> >> > otherwise.
>
> >> > A call to your agent (if you have one) or to the company might help. I'd
> >> > verbally give them a general list of items ("computers, jewelry, hi-fi,
> >> > electronics, oh, and bicycles, a couple of musical instruments...") to
> >> > confirm nothing is excluded or needs a specific additional coverage
> >> > rider.
>
> > I specifically asked:
>
> > I go to a coffee shop. I ride my bike there. I lock my bike up
> > outside. It gets nicked. What happens?
>
> > He said - $500 deductible and the rest is covered for replacement value.
>
> > thanks for the suggestion,
> > -sv
>
> > --
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Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
In my only actual bike/car collision, I was clearly at fault. I injured
myself and damaged my bike frame, and the car I hit sustained a dented
fender and hood, and a crushed windshield. My homeowners policy covered it
all, though I don¹t remember whether or not I paid a deductible, or how much
it might have been.
YM definitely MV.
--
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Illustration + Information Graphics
Austin, Texas
jgr...@papagrant.com
512-284-9599
Drawings ‹ all sorts
From: Clayton Scott
Reply-To:
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:37:10 -0800
To:
Subject: Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
What about in the case of a crash (assuming it is my fault). Is there any
insurance that would cover that?
Thanks,
Clayton Scott
SF CA
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, CycloFiend wrote:
>> > on 12/15/09 10:11 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>>> >> Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for
>>> >> bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my
>>> >> homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that
>>> >> and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that
>>> >> explicitly offers bike-theft insurance?
>> >
>> > Renter's/homeowner's should cover it. There may be limits on the policy
>> > payouts, and pay attention to an specific-item exclusions or limits. But,
>> if
>> > you have documented replacement values, it's hard for them to argue
>> > otherwise.
>> >
>> > A call to your agent (if you have one) or to the company might help. I'd
>> > verbally give them a general list of items ("computers, jewelry, hi-fi,
>> > electronics, oh, and bicycles, a couple of musical instruments...") to
>> > confirm nothing is excluded or needs a specific additional coverage rider.
>> >
>
> I specifically asked:
>
> I go to a coffee shop. I ride my bike there. I lock my bike up
> outside. It gets nicked. What happens?
>
> He said - $500 deductible and the rest is covered for replacement value.
>
> thanks for the suggestion,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Frederick, Steve wrote: > Cleat position can contribute to foot numbness, too. Try moving them back a > little. Shoe's not too tight is it? > > Not trying to convince you to stay with them if you don't want to, but if you > otherwise like the clipless pedals, there are solutions for foot numbness. > > steve frederick, east lansing, mi I was going to suggest this too. My clipless setup got a lot more comfortable a couple of years ago when i move the cleats back, almost to the back of the slot. With the cleat under the ball of my foot, all the pressure went there and i'd get tired feet, and more stress on my calves too. Having it further back disperses the pressure a lot. That said, i love my Grip Kings too; they're the only pedal i have that i can comfortably use to ride in Chaco sandals and Chuck Taylor sneakers (both with very soft soles). -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
What about in the case of a crash (assuming it is my fault). Is there any
insurance that would cover that?
Thanks,
Clayton Scott
SF CA
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, CycloFiend
> wrote:
> > on 12/15/09 10:11 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for
> >> bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my
> >> homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that
> >> and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that
> >> explicitly offers bike-theft insurance?
> >
> > Renter's/homeowner's should cover it. There may be limits on the policy
> > payouts, and pay attention to an specific-item exclusions or limits. But,
> if
> > you have documented replacement values, it's hard for them to argue
> > otherwise.
> >
> > A call to your agent (if you have one) or to the company might help. I'd
> > verbally give them a general list of items ("computers, jewelry, hi-fi,
> > electronics, oh, and bicycles, a couple of musical instruments...") to
> > confirm nothing is excluded or needs a specific additional coverage
> rider.
> >
>
> I specifically asked:
>
> I go to a coffee shop. I ride my bike there. I lock my bike up
> outside. It gets nicked. What happens?
>
> He said - $500 deductible and the rest is covered for replacement value.
>
> thanks for the suggestion,
> -sv
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[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
I tried with a Bleriot and Saluki (50mm Berthouds). Front fits fine. Rear does not (brake bridge won't allow enough clearance). I second the Zeppelins. Ryan II On Dec 15, 11:11 am, "rswat...@me.com" wrote: > On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Esteban wrote: > > > I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud > > stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the > > Honjos. > > > Anyone have any experience? > > Not on a Rivendell, but: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/1908661660/ > > Note that there is a 60mm Berthoud as well. And the 58mm Honjos from BQ. > > My first choice for the Hetre is the Velo-Orange Zeppelin 52mm. Nicely > made, good looking, cheap enough, and the fit is perfect. I'm told the > 58mm Honjos are even perfecter, but I'm completely happy with the > Zeppelins. > > Cheers, > Ryan > > PS: Esteban, let me know about that fork. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Esteban wrote: > I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud > stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the > Honjos. > > Anyone have any experience? Not on a Rivendell, but: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/1908661660/ Note that there is a 60mm Berthoud as well. And the 58mm Honjos from BQ. My first choice for the Hetre is the Velo-Orange Zeppelin 52mm. Nicely made, good looking, cheap enough, and the fit is perfect. I'm told the 58mm Honjos are even perfecter, but I'm completely happy with the Zeppelins. Cheers, Ryan PS: Esteban, let me know about that fork. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 27.0 seatpost
Thanks all. Can always count on this group. On Dec 15, 1:00 am, Beardpapa wrote: > anyone have a 27.0 seatpost (silver) you're looking to get rid of? > > thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, CycloFiend wrote:
> on 12/15/09 10:11 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for
>> bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my
>> homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that
>> and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that
>> explicitly offers bike-theft insurance?
>
> Renter's/homeowner's should cover it. There may be limits on the policy
> payouts, and pay attention to an specific-item exclusions or limits. But, if
> you have documented replacement values, it's hard for them to argue
> otherwise.
>
> A call to your agent (if you have one) or to the company might help. I'd
> verbally give them a general list of items ("computers, jewelry, hi-fi,
> electronics, oh, and bicycles, a couple of musical instruments...") to
> confirm nothing is excluded or needs a specific additional coverage rider.
>
I specifically asked:
I go to a coffee shop. I ride my bike there. I lock my bike up
outside. It gets nicked. What happens?
He said - $500 deductible and the rest is covered for replacement value.
thanks for the suggestion,
-sv
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Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
on 12/15/09 10:11 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for
> bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my
> homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that
> and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that
> explicitly offers bike-theft insurance?
Renter's/homeowner's should cover it. There may be limits on the policy
payouts, and pay attention to an specific-item exclusions or limits. But, if
you have documented replacement values, it's hard for them to argue
otherwise.
A call to your agent (if you have one) or to the company might help. I'd
verbally give them a general list of items ("computers, jewelry, hi-fi,
electronics, oh, and bicycles, a couple of musical instruments...") to
confirm nothing is excluded or needs a specific additional coverage rider.
- Jim
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Re: [RBW] Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Jim Cloud wrote: > Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell > Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a > Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was > possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a "cheap" Tektro 800 > brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. I've modified a Tektro R556 that way, using R800A bolts. Silver's are the same brake with a different logo. I might have even been the one who first posted that over on the 650B list. It's a little tedious, but nothing major. The bolts have two different sized threaded bits on them as well as a little set screw. It takes a little fiddling to find the sweet spot where they pivot freely, but don't have too much play. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the Honjos. Anyone have any experience? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] calendars?
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Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Z wrote: > Good question. Would be helpful info. > I just called me insurer again and he said: 1. use of it outside of the home provided that the device is NOT motorized is covered under your homeowners insurance policy. 2. replacement value is covered 3. under NC law to get replacement value the bike must be replaced, you cannot take the money and walk away. (for the record the idea of not replacing a bike when it gets stolen makes me sad) 4. Normal deductible limits apply for stolen goods. In my case a $500 deductible. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.
Good question. Would be helpful info. From: Seth Vidal To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:11:52 PM Subject: [RBW] insurance for bikes. Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that explicitly offers bike-theft insurance? thanks, -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: If you haven't done so already, check out our new and improved web catalog
Now easily works with Amazon's Universal Wish List button. Cool. chris. On Dec 14, 11:35 am, John Bennett wrote: > It's got some cool new features, and we like it a lot. > > Cheers, > > John > RBW HQ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] insurance for bikes.
Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that explicitly offers bike-theft insurance? thanks, -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
On Dec 15, 9:41 am, Jim Cloud wrote: > Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell > Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a > Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was > possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a "cheap" Tektro 800 > brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. > > By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro > R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify > a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a > conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27" wheel size to 700c. > > Jim Cloud > Tucson, AZ Put the front on the rear and put the rear on the front with the nut- Allen-inside the steerer and accessed through the hole in the rear of the crown. Phil Brown -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
-Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Patrick in VT Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:57 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet On Dec 15, 11:35 am, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I should have been more clear on the cause of the numbness... Patrick responded: >...you might consider whether your shoes are the issue... Cleat position can contribute to foot numbness, too. Try moving them back a little. Shoe's not too tight is it? Not trying to convince you to stay with them if you don't want to, but if you otherwise like the clipless pedals, there are solutions for foot numbness. steve frederick, east lansing, mi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: ST Glove review - Rivendell winter gloves
I don't think I've ever had gloves or mittens where the thumb wasn't too short. They all seem to be made for the species that came right before us. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Question for members on converting Tekro/Silver brakes for nutted mounting
Has anyone in this group had experience converting the Rivendell Silver brake to a nutted mounting? I've found one reference on a Google search for the 650B internet list group that indicated it was possible to swap out the center pivot bolt from a "cheap" Tektro 800 brake to modify the Tektro R556/Rivendell Silver for nutted mounting. By the way, I'm aware that Velo-Orange is presently selling the Tektro R538/R556 brakes in nutted mount versions, I'd like, however to modify a set of the Rivendell Silver brakes. This is intended for a conversion of my Schwinn Paramount P15 from a 27" wheel size to 700c. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
All true. I rode GKs on my road bike for a long time. There's nothing wrong with them, and they are certainly cheaper than new pedals. I prefer the reversible Shimano pedals, now. same ease of use, with any shoe, and added benefit of the cleats. With my release settings so low, I snap out with very little effort. On my commuter bike, I use standard rat trap pedals, no straps. I have moderate climbs to and from the office, and have often thought about mounting Power grips to those pedals, but haven't. I gave my Grip Kings to my son. He uses them sans straps and loves them. I'm not likely to return to use of GKs. I'm quite satisfied with the current set ups. RS --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce wrote: From: Bruce Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:14 AM Ray: The note in my post re:Grip Kings and Power Grips assumed no modifications made. For touring, I leave the reflectors in, along with the hi-vis triangle and the trouser reflector bands. Being seen is a good thing out on the back roads. I disagree with your note on foot removing from the straps. It is easier to get out straps than cleats. Or perhaps you had your straps tighter than I wear mine. As another poster pointed out, added strap benefits are the usability of any street shoe and the freedom to slide your foot around on the pedal. You can push with the ball of your foot, the arch over the spindle as Dave mentioned, or with your heels closer to center which is great for going up hills. Tailwinds... From: Ray Shine To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 10:51:31 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet Steve -- I should have added that Power Grips DO MOUNT to GripKing pedals. Despite what some other posters are saying, mine were mounted quite well with just minor alterations. For instance, you must remove the reflectors from each pedal, and use a plastic spacer on the strap end side. I might have some pix of the set up. If I find any, I'll post them. The other thing I'd like t point out about the Power Grips is that to remove your foot -- let's say the right foot -- you need to push the heel out then pull the foot back to free the shoe from the strap. That is the exact same movement you do to release from a cleated pedal. There's really no difference. Ray --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce wrote: From: Bruce ... I've been pedaling the past 6 months with nothing at all, which is how Grant recommends, but just this weekend put the power grips back on. They just work for me. They also work with many other pedals, but not Grip Kings -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: anyone notice the subtle change to RBW website
And when you want to return the photo to the thumbnail, you enlittlen it. dougP On Dec 15, 6:29 am, Tim McNamara wrote: > On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:59 PM, manueljohnacosta wrote: > > > I like the click to embiggen. Didn't even know that embiggen was a > > word. If it isn't it is now. I shall use it in my classroom! > > Not only is embiggen[1] a word, it's downright cromulent.[2] > > [1], [2] "The Simpson's" references. The City of Springfield's motto > is "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." > > http://fact-archive.com/encyclopedia/Made-up_words_in_The_Simpsons -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Steve: My current pedal of choice is the Grip King as it has a large surface area and good shoe traction, even when wet. I used Looks for many years, then SPDs. SPDs caused "hot foot" syndrome from too much pressure on long rides, especially multi-day tours. As I toured more, I needed more versatile shoes and went back to MKS platform touring pedals, sans toe clips. I have wide feet and the lack of retention and being able to wear any shoes was a delight. I've used MKS BMX pedals (sold by Riv), some other BMX pedals with a rough surface, and now Grip Kings. Once I got away from SPDs, the hot foot problem and tenderness disappeared. The off-roading I do is mainly fire trails and similar non-techncial stuff. dougP On Dec 15, 6:26 am, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King > pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. > > I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides > started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a > problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use > those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely > successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with > the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little > uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always > in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't > pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. > Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't > have to? > > This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased > surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom > of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any > thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them > relieved by using the Grip Kings? > > Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up > some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece > of mind. > > Thanks, > Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
I see that the link didn't work. The model of the shoe I wore is the Freerider. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Ray Shine wrote: From: Ray Shine Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 9:06 AM Steve - These are the shoes I wore on my last tour. They were very comfy on the Grip Kings. http://www.fiveten.com/ --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Ray Shine wrote: From: Ray Shine Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 8:51 AM Steve -- I should have added that Power Grips DO MOUNT to GripKing pedals. Despite what some other posters are saying, mine were mounted quite well with just minor alterations. For instance, you must remove the reflectors from each pedal, and use a plastic spacer on the strap end side. I might have some pix of the set up. If I find any, I'll post them. The other thing I'd like t point out about the Power Grips is that to remove your foot -- let's say the right foot -- you need to push the heel out then pull the foot back to free the shoe from the strap. That is the exact same movement you do to release from a cleated pedal. There's really no difference. Ray --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce wrote: From: Bruce Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:47 AM Steve: I suffered from cold feet when I was clipped in to either spd or look style pedals. I also did not like having my feet locked in just one location on the pedals. Thanks to a suggestion from another list member, I tried Power Grip straps on MKS touring pedals. They work well. The straps allow me to pull up on the pedals and bring hip flexors to bear which is good for climbing in my case. The grip kings are no difficulty at all to get out of if you bog down going uphill or though sloshy stuff and need to get your feet down fast. RBW sells them and you also find them elsewhere. You enter them on a slant, and when your feet straighten, they are quite secure. I've been pedaling the past 6 months with nothing at all, which is how Grant recommends, but just this weekend put the power grips back on. They just work for me. They also work with many other pedals, but not Grip Kings. Grip Kings are great pedals so far. They are on my touring bike and I did a 3 day self supported tour with them, and with no straps, clips, etc. Their extra length provides excellent support for your entire foot. Contrary to the name, they are NOT the kings of grip. MKS calls them "Lambdas." They are fine for temperature regulation of your feet in cold weather, which was your original question. That is, if you wear the right socks and footwear. Tailwinds From: Steve Wimberg To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 8:26:17 AM Subject: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't have to? This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them relieved by using the Grip Kings? Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece of mind. Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Ray: The note in my post re:Grip Kings and Power Grips assumed no modifications made. For touring, I leave the reflectors in, along with the hi-vis triangle and the trouser reflector bands. Being seen is a good thing out on the back roads. I disagree with your note on foot removing from the straps. It is easier to get out straps than cleats. Or perhaps you had your straps tighter than I wear mine. As another poster pointed out, added strap benefits are the usability of any street shoe and the freedom to slide your foot around on the pedal. You can push with the ball of your foot, the arch over the spindle as Dave mentioned, or with your heels closer to center which is great for going up hills. Tailwinds... From: Ray Shine To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 10:51:31 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet Steve -- I should have added that Power Grips DO MOUNT to GripKing pedals. Despite what some other posters are saying, mine were mounted quite well with just minor alterations. For instance, you must remove the reflectors from each pedal, and use a plastic spacer on the strap end side. I might have some pix of the set up. If I find any, I'll post them. The other thing I'd like t point out about the Power Grips is that to remove your foot -- let's say the right foot -- you need to push the heel out then pull the foot back to free the shoe from the strap. That is the exact same movement you do to release from a cleated pedal. There's really no difference. Ray --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce wrote: >From: Bruce > > >... I've been pedaling the past 6 months with nothing at all, which is how >Grant > recommends, but just this weekend put the power grips back on. They just work > for me. They also work with many other pedals, but not Grip Kings > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Steve - These are the shoes I wore on my last tour. They were very comfy on the Grip Kings. http://www.fiveten.com/ --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Ray Shine wrote: From: Ray Shine Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 8:51 AM Steve -- I should have added that Power Grips DO MOUNT to GripKing pedals. Despite what some other posters are saying, mine were mounted quite well with just minor alterations. For instance, you must remove the reflectors from each pedal, and use a plastic spacer on the strap end side. I might have some pix of the set up. If I find any, I'll post them. The other thing I'd like t point out about the Power Grips is that to remove your foot -- let's say the right foot -- you need to push the heel out then pull the foot back to free the shoe from the strap. That is the exact same movement you do to release from a cleated pedal. There's really no difference. Ray --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce wrote: From: Bruce Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:47 AM Steve: I suffered from cold feet when I was clipped in to either spd or look style pedals. I also did not like having my feet locked in just one location on the pedals. Thanks to a suggestion from another list member, I tried Power Grip straps on MKS touring pedals. They work well. The straps allow me to pull up on the pedals and bring hip flexors to bear which is good for climbing in my case. The grip kings are no difficulty at all to get out of if you bog down going uphill or though sloshy stuff and need to get your feet down fast. RBW sells them and you also find them elsewhere. You enter them on a slant, and when your feet straighten, they are quite secure. I've been pedaling the past 6 months with nothing at all, which is how Grant recommends, but just this weekend put the power grips back on. They just work for me. They also work with many other pedals, but not Grip Kings. Grip Kings are great pedals so far. They are on my touring bike and I did a 3 day self supported tour with them, and with no straps, clips, etc. Their extra length provides excellent support for your entire foot. Contrary to the name, they are NOT the kings of grip. MKS calls them "Lambdas." They are fine for temperature regulation of your feet in cold weather, which was your original question. That is, if you wear the right socks and footwear. Tailwinds From: Steve Wimberg To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 8:26:17 AM Subject: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't have to? This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them relieved by using the Grip Kings? Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece of mind. Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+u
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Steve I was clear on what you were describing. The numbness is usually directly a cause of pressure that impinges nerve branches in your foot. The cure for most cyclists is a combination of strategies that reduces that pressure. Some cyclists are more susceptible than others. Wearing shoes with a thick sole or a rigid, nylon shank helps (e.g., cycling shoes), as does reducing pressure by loosening toe straps. In your case, it sounds like you were using MKS touring pedals without clips and you felt numbness. Is that correct? If so, were you using soft, non-cycling shoes? That would be a reasonable cause. I am prone to foot numbness, and I can ride MKS touring pedals WITH cycling shoes, but not without. The other strategy that helps deal with numbness is moving cleats on clipless shoes back a few mm's - but, you're not having numbness problems with your clipless set-up. The Grip King pedals have a long platform and that will disperse the pressure over a wider area, thus relieving the cause of the numbness with a wider range of shoe choices. Dave On Dec 15, 9:35 am, Steve Wimberg wrote: > Thanks for the replies. > > I should have been more clear on the cause of the numbness. It's not > cold, but circulation(?) and pressure on the bottom of my foot is > causing it. > > I do like the idea of using Power Grips on the Grip Kings, but also > read that doesn't work. Richard - where to the ends of the straps > connect to the pedals? Any pix? The main thing I didn't want to give > up by using the Grip Kings is the ability to pull up on the pedal > stroke. If the GKs can provide relief from numbness, and can use the > Power Grips, while supplying a stable surface, maybe that is the best > of both worlds. It's not too much to ask, right? > > Steve > > On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:16 AM, R Gonet wrote: > > > > > Although the RBW site says Power Grips do not work with Grip King > > pedals, they do. I use that setup on three different bikes and they > > work well. I don't understand why Riv makes this disclaimer. > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
On Dec 15, 11:35 am, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I should have been more clear on the cause of the numbness. It's not > cold, but circulation(?) and pressure on the bottom of my foot is > causing it. were you using any retention with the MKS touring pedals? and what kind of shoes were you using? with the move to clipless, you made a switch to a pedal with *less* surface area and most likely a shoe with a stiffer sole. you might consider whether your shoes are the issue before buying new pedals. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Steve -- I should have added that Power Grips DO MOUNT to GripKing pedals. Despite what some other posters are saying, mine were mounted quite well with just minor alterations. For instance, you must remove the reflectors from each pedal, and use a plastic spacer on the strap end side. I might have some pix of the set up. If I find any, I'll post them. The other thing I'd like t point out about the Power Grips is that to remove your foot -- let's say the right foot -- you need to push the heel out then pull the foot back to free the shoe from the strap. That is the exact same movement you do to release from a cleated pedal. There's really no difference. Ray --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Bruce wrote: From: Bruce Subject: Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:47 AM Steve: I suffered from cold feet when I was clipped in to either spd or look style pedals. I also did not like having my feet locked in just one location on the pedals. Thanks to a suggestion from another list member, I tried Power Grip straps on MKS touring pedals. They work well. The straps allow me to pull up on the pedals and bring hip flexors to bear which is good for climbing in my case. The grip kings are no difficulty at all to get out of if you bog down going uphill or though sloshy stuff and need to get your feet down fast. RBW sells them and you also find them elsewhere. You enter them on a slant, and when your feet straighten, they are quite secure. I've been pedaling the past 6 months with nothing at all, which is how Grant recommends, but just this weekend put the power grips back on. They just work for me. They also work with many other pedals, but not Grip Kings. Grip Kings are great pedals so far. They are on my touring bike and I did a 3 day self supported tour with them, and with no straps, clips, etc. Their extra length provides excellent support for your entire foot. Contrary to the name, they are NOT the kings of grip. MKS calls them "Lambdas." They are fine for temperature regulation of your feet in cold weather, which was your original question. That is, if you wear the right socks and footwear. Tailwinds From: Steve Wimberg To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 8:26:17 AM Subject: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't have to? This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them relieved by using the Grip Kings? Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece of mind. Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Steve -- I toured last summer on Grip Kings with uncleated mountain bike shoes. I rode 2500 miles over many long and steep mountain passes. I originally started out with PowerGrips attached to my Grip Kings, and I drilled and tapped set screws into the reverse side of each pedal to hold my shoe in place when not strapped in. By the second day on the road, I had removed the Power Grips altogether and mailed them home. I found the free pedaling with a heavy load more compelling than being strapped in. By the end of the first week, I had even removed all of the set screws, and was totally free. Another technique I use is to not pedal with the ball of my foot centered on the pedal. Rather, I move my foot forward so that the arch of my foot is centered over the pedal. That made quite a noticeable difference. It went well, and my feet never went numb. That said, I have grown to like the cleated shoe/pedal combo for regular daily rides. I push the cleat as far back as allowed on standard mountain bike shoes, and I have set the release pressure to the absolute minimum. I snap out very easily and quickly, and I use the reversible Shimano pedals that also allow me to pedal free on the flip side of the cleat. I use that mode when in heavy traffic, or when riding with uncleated shoes. If I tour fully loaded on roads again, I will try it with cleated moutain bike shoes on these reversible pedals. I find that cleats do facillitate long climbs. Here are the pedals I have mounted on my bikes. Two sets of "mountain" pedals, and one set of "road." By the way, I replaced the upward releasing cleats that came with the two sets of mountain pedals with road style cleats.: http://www.rei.com/product/764688 http://www.rei.com/product/668198 --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Steve Wimberg wrote: From: Steve Wimberg Subject: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:26 AM I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't have to? This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them relieved by using the Grip Kings? Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece of mind. Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Thanks for the replies. I should have been more clear on the cause of the numbness. It's not cold, but circulation(?) and pressure on the bottom of my foot is causing it. I do like the idea of using Power Grips on the Grip Kings, but also read that doesn't work. Richard - where to the ends of the straps connect to the pedals? Any pix? The main thing I didn't want to give up by using the Grip Kings is the ability to pull up on the pedal stroke. If the GKs can provide relief from numbness, and can use the Power Grips, while supplying a stable surface, maybe that is the best of both worlds. It's not too much to ask, right? Steve On Dec 15, 2009, at 10:16 AM, R Gonet wrote: > Although the RBW site says Power Grips do not work with Grip King > pedals, they do. I use that setup on three different bikes and they > work well. I don't understand why Riv makes this disclaimer. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne for a triathlon and a visit to RBWHQ (My first Riv!)
On Dec 14, 12:55 pm, Bruce wrote: > Cheryl: > There may be others on this list who would like to introduce their wive's (or > significant others) to you. You can parlay it into a career of "Rivendell > Sensitivity Training" Hear, hear. But let's not forget that there are many on this list with understanding spouses/partners/S.O.'s who understand without being enthusiastic or year-round riders themselves. I am blessed with such a partner. She's so cool that when we walk down the street she'll notice the cool bikes before I do now: "Honey, look at those lugs. Aren't they gorgeous?" Life is good. Beth -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: contemplating change: 1999 longlow
> > > .. But sometime, just to round out your knowledge base as a > > > crackerjack wrench and bicycle guru (which I know you are) you > > > should set up a pair of Mafac or Weinmann centerpulls with modern > > > cables and housings, sturdy cable hangers and Kool Stop brakes. Noted. I would also second Patrick's note about modern aero levers. Totally makes sense. The Rivvy in question uses North Road bars and an old, lovely pair of Suntour XCPro atb levers, which I adore. Last time I tried a set of Mafacs with these -- just before buying them off a friend's bike -- they just about bottomed out against the grip. Changing the pads (OMG! Those awful Mafac pads should be outlawed) helped some, but not enough for me to consider using C-pulls on a bike of my own at the time. (From all my reading on the topic I strongly suspect brazing the center-pulls onto the bike would make a significant difference in brake response.) As for Weinmann brakes, good luck finding a decent used pair in this bike-mad town. We've got a box of sloppy seconds -- mostly parts-of- parts -- because so many more folks are fixing up their old bikes now instead of buying new. It's an odd problem to have, and not entirely unpredicted. I'm going with cantis. I may have a line on a local builder with time in his schedule next month and hopefully things will move forward from there. I promise photos, of course, when everything gets underway. Thanks again --BH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Yuba cargo bike pics
That's pretty cool. I probably couldn't get that gate into my car! Horace. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Kip Otteson wrote: > This post is only for those who get excited by using bikes as trucks > or SUVs. I love this bike. The Yuba Mundo is a wonderful machine for > anyone with a grand laying around. The Riv connection are the John's > Irish Straps holding stuff down. (I love those things.) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157623004914628/ > > In Thailand, where people carry ridiculous loads on all sorts of > contraptions, we got our share of stares on the main road. > > My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are > building at our school. > > Not a professional photographer or writer, just a dad who digs doing > bike stuff with his son, even if it's not on our Rivendells. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Road Test: New Tektro CR720s on the Quickbeam;Swobo tights
I'll weigh in with the opposite opinion on Rainlegs . . . I bought them because I hate wearing rain pants, but I also dislike walking into a restaurant on a rainy day bicycle tour and leaving a puddle on the floor. So, I tried the Rainlegs on the Oregon coast and found that within two days, the waterproofing at the crotch had delaminated where it rubbed the saddle. I'm sure that bicycle tourists always look a little weird to the locals, but a bicycle tourist who looks like he's pee'd his pants probably makes folks downright uncomfortable. I'm back to high quality rain pants. The durability of the Rainlegs didn't impress me. Dave On Dec 15, 8:10 am, Ron MH wrote: > I just l-o-v-e my Rainlegs! > No more sweaty legs, no more wet legs from the rain. A classic win- > win. > And this, from a guy who commutes by bike year-round in Portland, OR. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Although the RBW site says Power Grips do not work with Grip King pedals, they do. I use that setup on three different bikes and they work well. I don't understand why Riv makes this disclaimer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Road Test: New Tektro CR720s on the Quickbeam;Swobo tights
I just l-o-v-e my Rainlegs! No more sweaty legs, no more wet legs from the rain. A classic win- win. And this, from a guy who commutes by bike year-round in Portland, OR. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Steve: I easily get numb feet when the pedal pressure hits too far forward on the ball of my foot and my foot is restrained by some sort of retainer. This happens with Power Grips, clipless pedals or toe clips and straps. I've toured for almost 2,000 miles with Power Grips on MKS touring pedals, and, with the straps snug, but not tight, I've been very comfortable. I also commute in regular street shoes on "bear trap" pedals without retainers with no issues. And, I've dialed in my clipless pedals with the cleat as far back as it will go - I'm usually numbness free with that set-up as well, during countless miles touring and training. If you've found a pedal system that allows you to pedal without numbness, why change the system? Instead, you might try reducing the spring tension on your clipless pedals so they release more easily. I know a couple of riders who have had similar concerns to yours (falling over while clipped). Interestingly, they also had never actually had it happen to them! I reduced the spring tension on their pedals, as I've suggested to you. But, in the end, both solved their concern in different ways. One decided that he wasn't willing to give up the perceived efficiency of clipless and he has improved his riding skills to the point where he no longer fears falling over. The other rider (my wife) begrudgingly switched to power grips and touring pedals and has discovered that she loves them! She found, as have I, that the Power Grip set-up combines pedaling efficiency with an easy release, the ability to wear "normal" shoes, and the ability to change up foot position over a long ride. I'll note here that both of the riders are middle-aged, fit, high mileage riders. One was able to get over his fear of falling and the other wasn't. I hope that helps. Dave On Dec 15, 7:26 am, Steve Wimberg wrote: > I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King > pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. > > I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides > started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a > problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use > those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely > successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with > the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little > uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always > in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't > pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. > Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't > have to? > > This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased > surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom > of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any > thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them > relieved by using the Grip Kings? > > Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up > some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece > of mind. > > Thanks, > Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Road Test: New Tektro CR720s on the Quickbeam;Swobo tights
I just l-o-v-e my Rainlegs! No more sweaty legs, no more wet legs from the rain. A classic win- win. And this, from a guy who commutes by bike year-round in Portland, OR. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
Steve: I suffered from cold feet when I was clipped in to either spd or look style pedals. I also did not like having my feet locked in just one location on the pedals. Thanks to a suggestion from another list member, I tried Power Grip straps on MKS touring pedals. They work well. The straps allow me to pull up on the pedals and bring hip flexors to bear which is good for climbing in my case. The grip kings are no difficulty at all to get out of if you bog down going uphill or though sloshy stuff and need to get your feet down fast. RBW sells them and you also find them elsewhere. You enter them on a slant, and when your feet straighten, they are quite secure. I've been pedaling the past 6 months with nothing at all, which is how Grant recommends, but just this weekend put the power grips back on. They just work for me. They also work with many other pedals, but not Grip Kings. Grip Kings are great pedals so far. They are on my touring bike and I did a 3 day self supported tour with them, and with no straps, clips, etc. Their extra length provides excellent support for your entire foot. Contrary to the name, they are NOT the kings of grip. MKS calls them "Lambdas." They are fine for temperature regulation of your feet in cold weather, which was your original question. That is, if you wear the right socks and footwear. Tailwinds From: Steve Wimberg To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 8:26:17 AM Subject: [RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't have to? This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them relieved by using the Grip Kings? Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece of mind. Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Yuba cargo bike pics
Nice, love an orange bike :^). The redesigned Yuba is pretty impressive, something like 15lbs. lighter than the original and better equipped. I wish it was (more) compatible with Xtracycle stuff... Doug On Tuesday, December 15, 2009, Kip Otteson wrote: > This post is only for those who get excited by using bikes as trucks > or SUVs. I love this bike. The Yuba Mundo is a wonderful machine for > anyone with a grand laying around. The Riv connection are the John's > Irish Straps holding stuff down. (I love those things.) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157623004914628/ > > In Thailand, where people carry ridiculous loads on all sorts of > contraptions, we got our share of stares on the main road. > > My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are > building at our school. > > Not a professional photographer or writer, just a dad who digs doing > bike stuff with his son, even if it's not on our Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: anyone notice the subtle change to RBW website
On Dec 14, 2009, at 9:59 PM, manueljohnacosta wrote: > I like the click to embiggen. Didn't even know that embiggen was a > word. If it isn't it is now. I shall use it in my classroom! Not only is embiggen[1] a word, it's downright cromulent.[2] [1], [2] "The Simpson's" references. The City of Springfield's motto is "A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man." http://fact-archive.com/encyclopedia/Made-up_words_in_The_Simpsons -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grip Kings and Numb Feet
I would like to get some feedback from the group regarding Grip King pedals and their ability to eliminate numb feet on long rides. I started using clipless pedals about a year ago after my rides started increasing in length, and numbness in my feet became a problem. I had been using MKS touring pedals, and really can't use those on rides over 30 miles or so. The switch was extremely successful in keeping my feet from going numb, and I like riding with the clipless, in general. However, I have found that I get a little uncomfortable being clipped in when going up steep hills. It's always in the back of my mind that if I need to bail out because I can't pedal anymore, it's gonna be difficult because I'm clipped in. Granted, this hasn't happened yet, but why have the anxiety if I don't have to? This is where the Grip Kings come in. I am hopeful that the increased surface area of the pedal will spread the weight out over the bottom of my foot enough to keep the numbness at bay. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Has anyone had numb feet problems and had them relieved by using the Grip Kings? Like I said, I like the clipless pedals, but am willing to give up some of the things I like about them in order to gain a little piece of mind. Thanks, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: anyone notice the subtle change to RBW website
I like the antonym. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ensmallen Should be on the hover to close the window On Dec 15, 7:30 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/embiggen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Yuba cargo bike pics
An amazing load. I would have expected you to be a huge athlete or something. Amazing how a well designed machine combined with dedicated people power can get the job done. > My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are > building at our school. An even more positive story. You and that handsome young guy are doing some good and enjoying the ride while doing it. Definitely consistent with Riv philosophy. A great post. On Dec 15, 4:40 am, Kip Otteson wrote: > This post is only for those who get excited by using bikes as trucks > or SUVs. I love this bike. The Yuba Mundo is a wonderful machine for > anyone with a grand laying around. The Riv connection are the John's > Irish Straps holding stuff down. (I love those things.) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157623004914628/ > > In Thailand, where people carry ridiculous loads on all sorts of > contraptions, we got our share of stares on the main road. > > My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are > building at our school. > > Not a professional photographer or writer, just a dad who digs doing > bike stuff with his son, even if it's not on our Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: anyone notice the subtle change to RBW website
Ahhh... much better. On Dec 14, 7:42 pm, eflayer wrote: > don't think I've read about it yet. No more having to "look at it" > or "read about it." Now both perspectives one the same page. Nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: anyone notice the subtle change to RBW website
Isn't embiggen redundant? Doesn't biggen actually say it all? My wife has asked me to louden the stereo for decades now, but I don't recall her ever suggesting I enlouden it. Anyway I too liken it, or enliken it if you prefer michael Westford, Vt On Dec 15, 7:30 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 19:59 -0800, manueljohnacosta wrote: > > I like the click to embiggen. Didn't even know that embiggen was a > > word. If it isn't it is now. I shall use it in my classroom! > > http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/embiggen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: anyone notice the subtle change to RBW website
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 19:59 -0800, manueljohnacosta wrote: > I like the click to embiggen. Didn't even know that embiggen was a > word. If it isn't it is now. I shall use it in my classroom! http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/embiggen -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Yuba cargo bike pics
Were you able to actually pedal it with that cargo? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kip Otteson Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:40 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Yuba cargo bike pics This post is only for those who get excited by using bikes as trucks or SUVs. I love this bike. The Yuba Mundo is a wonderful machine for anyone with a grand laying around. The Riv connection are the John's Irish Straps holding stuff down. (I love those things.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157623004914628/ In Thailand, where people carry ridiculous loads on all sorts of contraptions, we got our share of stares on the main road. My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are building at our school. Not a professional photographer or writer, just a dad who digs doing bike stuff with his son, even if it's not on our Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Yuba cargo bike pics
This post is only for those who get excited by using bikes as trucks or SUVs. I love this bike. The Yuba Mundo is a wonderful machine for anyone with a grand laying around. The Riv connection are the John's Irish Straps holding stuff down. (I love those things.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/39159...@n08/sets/72157623004914628/ In Thailand, where people carry ridiculous loads on all sorts of contraptions, we got our share of stares on the main road. My son and I dropped off the gate at the organic garden we are building at our school. Not a professional photographer or writer, just a dad who digs doing bike stuff with his son, even if it's not on our Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
