Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-07-10 Thread Jose Huerta
t(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *John Sundberg > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:55 AM > > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula > > ** Dave, > > Thanks for the feedback… > > >

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-07-10 Thread Shellman, David
Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>] On Behalf Of John Sundberg Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:47 AM To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG> Subject: Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or f

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-07-10 Thread John Sundberg
- > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *John Sundberg > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:47 AM > *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG > *Subject:* Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula > > ** Just won

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-07-10 Thread Shellman, David
ating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula ** Just wondering -- I am always confused by this 5 to 1 concept. If you have 5000 defined float users - and you have 100 float licenses -- is that 50 to 1 ??? So - to go from 5 to 1 to 8 to 1 -- how are you doing that? Are you taking away full lic

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-07-10 Thread John Sundberg
Just wondering -- I am always confused by this 5 to 1 concept. If you have 5000 defined float users - and you have 100 float licenses -- is that 50 to 1 ??? So - to go from 5 to 1 to 8 to 1 -- how are you doing that? Are you taking away full licenses - and switching people to floats? Or - are yo

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-07-10 Thread Sean O'Sullivan
Good Morning Listers, Jose, We started out by purchasing a fixed licence for most of the folks who use the system full time. This included helpdesk and operations center folks. The only ones from helpdesk or NOC who got float licenses were those who routinely worked night shift. Because we

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-07-09 Thread Jose Huerta
In order to give response to this question I wrote this approach: http://theremedyforit.com/2012/07/estimating-the-required-number-of-licenses/ That was my idea for a paper for the WWRUG12. And to develop the calculator in a web application of free use. But, now I know I won't go, I publish it on

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-29 Thread Mauricio M.
I guess the first approach and easiest way to proceed is to estimate a 3:1 ratio or 5:1 ratio according to the "book", maybe applying some % up, and providing with two or three scenarios. After that, more precise measurment should be done, we need to measure the actual license usage over a period o

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-29 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi, In that case they need to spend much more money, as they have to spend according to the budget instead of their actual need. I understand that you NEED a budget, but that does not mean that you have to SPEND the whole budget. And I also understand that sales reps might have a different idea

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-29 Thread Jose Huerta
I think that the problem is that he can't buy extra licenses. I mean, He needs to provide a budget to assist the decision of buying Remedy. To buy a minimum number of licenses and then increase as needed, is to make the decision without known the final TCO. Jose M. Huerta Project Manager** Movil

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-29 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi, I would divide it into two things. One is budget, and the other thing how you actually do when you buy your licenses. Budget: 1. Look into the sky and figure out your concurrent user count 2. Do a 1:1 ratio (50% fixed 50% floating) and use that as a basis for your budget Buying licenses: 1.

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-28 Thread Mauricio M.
Hi Misi, But in your experience how do you do when it is for budgeting purposes, these are custom applications that have not been used before and they need to provision the licenses needed for the future load ... you say the only way to have a number close to reality is based only in previous usage

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-28 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi, I would say that there is no rule of thumb. Even if you have historical data, you could come up with 5:1 or 1:5, all depending how your system is used. One days worth of data will give you some information, and one week will give you a very good estimate. You can even try the free version o

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-28 Thread Shellman, David
- rule of thumb or formula ** Hi Jose, So in order to simplify a model, don´t you think you can compare this distribution to the behaviour of ocassional users logging in and updating records? because RRRLicense measures over a period of time and I do not have historical data and no window frame to

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-28 Thread Mauricio M.
Hi Jose, So in order to simplify a model, don´t you think you can compare this distribution to the behaviour of ocassional users logging in and updating records? because RRRLicense measures over a period of time and I do not have historical data and no window frame to measure from this present tim

Re: Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-28 Thread Jose Huerta
Erlang formulas assume Poisson distribution. Your team won't be distributed in any computable wat. So I recommend you to study the use. Maybe you can try the RRR|License tool. Jose M. Huerta Project Manager** Movil: 661 665 088 Telf.: 971 75 03 24 Fax: 971 75 07 94

Floating License Estimation - rule of thumb or formula

2012-06-28 Thread Mauricio M.
Hello All, I know this is and old age question but it continues to be relevant on how you estimate the appropiate number of floating licenses that will be needed in the near future for a given application, but not taking into account any past behaviour, I mean, suppose that we do not have historic