Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-11 Thread Dave
On 4/9/2013 12:06 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > >> --- On Tue, 4/9/13, Viesturs Lācis wrote: >> >> >> >>> It has been discussed many times on this list that there is >>> only one or two >>> pci-to-parport cards out there that do actually work in EPP >>> mode. All the >>> others do so only in t

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-11 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, I just put together an e350n with 4GB ram and 120GB SSD. The only bios play I did was to try to boot with a USB HDD. No joy there so I used a sata dvd to install. The all day servo thread latency settles around 9600 (an overnight run was 12000 in the morning). The all day base thread

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 11 April 2013 08:39:43 Marius Liebenberg did opine: > Gene > What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the > insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it > over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like. I've done

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Gene What I sometimes do is to take a piece of electrical wire and strip the insulation off. Then I split the insulation along the length and slip it over the sharp edge. You can glue it with some epoxy or the like. On 2013/04/11 12:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:5

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:12:55 Marius Liebenberg did opine: > Gene, > The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do > that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier > and had a look at the MB to see how they do it. > You could always make a li

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 18:10:37 andy pugh did opine: > On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's > > CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? > > Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical head

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-10 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/10/2013 8:59 AM, Marcus Bowman wrote: > There seem to be 4 models of E350N board. The GA-E350N (rev 1.0) the GA-350N > (rev 3.0) and the GA-E350N Win8 (rev 1.0) all seem to have a parallel port, > but the GA-E350N-USB3 (rev 1.0) does not. The -USB3 has a different chipset > (AMD 50M as oppo

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Gene, The pins on the MB is just a double header so you should be able to do that. I am looking at doing just that so I made a visit to the supplier and had a look at the MB to see how they do it. You could always make a little slot in the end plate of the PCI card or pop out one of the unused p

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/4/10 andy pugh > On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's > CNC4PC > > model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? > > Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43. And keep all

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 April 2013 16:43, Gene Heskett wrote: > Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC > model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's? Yes. Even better, it can go direct to the identical header on a Mesa 7i43. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 10 April 2013 11:40:26 Rudy du Preez did opine: > The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and > needs a ribbon cable extension. Can the ribbon cable be fed directly to a B.O.B. such as Leonardo's CNC4PC model C1G?, bypassing at least one set of db25's?

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote: > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:39:52 -0300 > From: Ricardo Moscoloni > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX bo

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-10 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote: > Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:20:41 -0300 > From: Ricardo Moscoloni > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX bo

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-10 Thread Marcus Bowman
>>>> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >>>> >>>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >>> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? >>>> &

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-10 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
;Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" < >> emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? >> > >> > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh wrote: >> > >> >> The 6i25 ought to work. Tha

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-10 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
ly-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? > > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > > >> The

Re: [Emc-users] : Which mini ITX board to choose? (Rudy du Preez)

2013-04-09 Thread Rudy du Preez
The Intel D2800MT actually has a parallel port. It sits on the board and needs a ribbon cable extension. I am currently running a Linuxcnc 2.5.2 on this board with two parports: one in the PCI-E slot and one on the ribbon cable. One is configured as "out" and the other as "in". Rudy ---

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-09 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013, Eric Keller wrote: > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:28:11 -0400 > From: Eric Keller > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose? >

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-09 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Guys, I think you can pretty much get any Atom these days. I have done several installations on the Intel Atoms and never had any problems. I just did an Installation on a 2800MUD (the very latest) and it took about two hours to clock the first motor. It does not have a parport but only a PCI/E

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-09 Thread Jon Elson
> --- On Tue, 4/9/13, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > > >> It has been discussed many times on this list that there is >> only one or two >> pci-to-parport cards out there that do actually work in EPP >> mode. All the >> others do so only in theory and docs, not in reality. >> I think Viesturs i

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-09 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM, andy pugh wrote: > The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that > can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. > (But check with Mesa) > that's weird, when I go to newegg they have a ga-e350N with a PCI slot that's in stock and one with a

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-09 Thread andy pugh
On 9 April 2013 05:14, propcoder wrote: > Now I am thinking of ability to put some MESA PCI card to MB. As I > understand, this is not possible with > GA-E350N? The 6i25 ought to work. That looks to be a 16x slot, running x4, that can negotiate down to x1 with a 6i25 in there. (But check with Me

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-09 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/9/2013 12:14 AM, propcoder wrote: > Dave, thank you for Gigabyte mini-ITX GA-E350N. It is a good candidate. As an addendum to this discussion, I got a chance (doesn't everyone carry a LiveUSB stick in their pocket "just in case"?) to run latency-test on a substantially similar motherboard,

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-09 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Tue, 4/9/13, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > It has been discussed many times on this list that there is > only one or two > pci-to-parport cards out there that do actually work in EPP > mode. All the > others do so only in theory and docs, not in reality. It's almost enough to make me miss the d

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-09 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/4/9 propcoder > Dave, thank you for Gigabyte mini-ITX GA-E350N. It is a good candidate. > > How about micro-ATX? > It just takes up more space in control box and that is it. > Now I am thinking of ability to put some MESA PCI card to MB. As I > understand, this is not possible with > GA-E

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-08 Thread propcoder
Dave, thank you for Gigabyte mini-ITX GA-E350N. It is a good candidate. How about micro-ATX? Now I am thinking of ability to put some MESA PCI card to MB. As I understand, this is not possible with GA-E350N? Is it possible to add second PCI-E parport and run it with MESA EPP card? Marius On 20

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-08 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote: > > Intel has one SSD that has a mean time between failure rating of over > 100 years. So the CNC machines I do now might outlive me! ;-) > > Do NOT trust these insane MTBFs, they are calculated numbers designed for bragging, and have NO basis in reality. They are derived from a

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-08 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/4/8 propcoder > I am going to use MESA cards, but pulsegen might be used too. Which new > ITX (or mATX, if such would be much better) board would you recommend? > What about small disk on memory / SSD? > 30 GB Kingston SSD is one of the cheapest hard drives there is in my favorite store. Si

Re: [Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-08 Thread Dave
From March 30th by Christopher Purcell posted this note below: I have been partial to the Intel D525MW and the D525MWE but the E350N board should be much faster than the D525 boards. The Intel board was discontinued last fall but they still keep making them regardless. the newer Intel MITX boa

[Emc-users] Which mini ITX board to choose?

2013-04-08 Thread propcoder
I am going to use MESA cards, but pulsegen might be used too. Which new ITX (or mATX, if such would be much better) board would you recommend? What about small disk on memory / SSD? -- Minimize network downtime and maxim