Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

> Would it be possible to start logging and saving (and publishing) MP > messages somewhere so a person with a grievance would have some hard > evidence to show what happened. Right now when push comes to shove, > we are > in a "he said/she said" situation. But if we logged every "message > +

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

One account per IP address is not a good idea, because it is very well possible for several independent people to use the same public IP address. In IPv4 at least with NAT routers. I can think of examples in student homes with a shared broadband connection. Or the clubhouse of the flying club.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

Hal V. Engel wrote > On Tuesday, October 19, 2010 02:15:08 pm Vivian Meazza wrote: > > Gary Neely wrote > > > > > A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as > > > jackmermod in the FG forums: > > > > > > "I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying u

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

Gary Neely wrote > > A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as > jackmermod in the FG forums: > > "I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying up > on the attackers 6 o'clock in my F-14 and firing upon him with over 20 > Aim-9's in hopes of causin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On Tuesday 19 October 2010 18:51:37 Martin Spott wrote: > Stefan Seifert wrote: > > Very sensible words. Technical solutions usually don't work for social > > problems. > > Exactly this is the point, and I'd like to add that the social problem > we're currently looking at might be manifold B

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

Instead of trying to put together a list, you should watch a video of George Carlin's "Seven dirty words." Censorship is not the solution to this kind of problem. It is just too easy to come up with a way to be offensive, or to threaten someone. If you decide to censor, then YOU take the res

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

Stefan Seifert wrote: > Very sensible words. Technical solutions usually don't work for social > problems. Exactly this is the point, and I'd like to add that the social problem we're currently looking at might be manifold Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just se

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as jackmermod in the FG forums: "I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying up on the attackers 6 o'clock in my F-14 and firing upon him with over 20 Aim-9's in hopes of causing him to lag. Luckily I caused hi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

Promoting the concept of free market place of ideas here: The multiplayer server source is open and anyone can setup their own server. Sure the MP system is only fun when there are lots of people participating ... But if someone wants to have their own private free for all and express any opinio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

Curtis Olson wrote: > Would it be possible to start logging and saving (and publishing) MP > messages somewhere so a person with a grievance would have some hard > evidence to show what happened. I do sense certain privacy issues by logging/storing/publishing callsigns and MP messages (similarly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On Tuesday 19 October 2010 16:41:35 Mally wrote: > ?Forgive my ignorance, but what happens at the moment? Does nobody say > anything to the abusers? Doesn't peer pressure, good example and setting > guidelines present a more realistic solution (realistic by comparison with > what happens in real wo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Curtis Olson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > >> A filter like this belongs in the client machine, not the server. >> >> It's not the job of a multi-player server to provide nanny services. If >> the end user doesn't want to see adult language, t

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Gene Buckle wrote: > A filter like this belongs in the client machine, not the server. > > It's not the job of a multi-player server to provide nanny services. If > the end user doesn't want to see adult language, they're welcome to enable > whatever filtering tha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:25 AM, syd adams wrote: > That stuff is unnecessary and in > > real life you'd probably get your license yanked if you were caught using > > foul language on the radio. > > Here, in Canada , its a $5000 fine and/or a year in jail.That,s a > pretty good deterrent :). >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Curtis Olson wrote: > Oh dear ... > > http://www.noswearing.com/dictionary > > I was going to say that we could probably do a pretty good job at coming up > with a list ourselves, then I saw this site and realized I'm a complete > novice ... > A filter like this belongs in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Reagan Thomas wrote: > On 10/19/2010 7:56 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote: >> >>> Hi Everybody, >>> I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own >>> business, when another pilot asked a gen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

?Forgive my ignorance, but what happens at the moment? Does nobody say anything to the abusers? Doesn't peer pressure, good example and setting guidelines present a more realistic solution (realistic by comparison with what happens in real world aviation I mean) rather than coming up with an au

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On 10/19/2010 7:56 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote: >> Hi Everybody, >> I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own >> business, when another pilot asked a general newbie question: "Where can I >> find the Nimitz?". In only g

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

 That stuff is unnecessary and in > real life you'd probably get your license yanked if you were caught using > foul language on the radio. Here, in Canada , its a $5000 fine and/or a year in jail.That,s a pretty good deterrent :).

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

Oh dear ... http://www.noswearing.com/dictionary I was going to say that we could probably do a pretty good job at coming up with a list ourselves, then I saw this site and realized I'm a complete novice ... Could we also filter at the MP server level? It might be nice to filter at the sending

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers

On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote: > Hi Everybody, > I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own > business, when another pilot asked a general newbie question: "Where can I > find the Nimitz?". In only good intent, I replied: "Look around the Golden > Gate

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