>
> Which is used? ( for fvwm-2.5.21.tar.gz )
According to this page:
http://www.etla.net/libstroke/
you should use the second one.
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ses.
Or having the first keypress raise a menu then the second keypress
select a hot key in the menu. Menus are plenty fast enough that
they can go by almost faster than you can see them.
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with Firefox.
I'm using 2.5.x now but I think it's been working all along.
The "full incantation" I use is"
DestroyFunc PageR
AddToFunc PageR I Style $0 StartsOnPage $1 $2 $3, SkipMapping, RandomPlacement
PageR Seamonkey-bin 0 0 1
PageR Netscape 0 0 1
PageR Mozilla* 0 0 1
(The Mozilla* entry will do Firefox.)
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a
> branch in CVS which breaks existing compatibility to try and do this
> though.
If the windows have 2 different class values, Fvwm should be able to match
to each one, providing that value isn't also the name or resource.
(Fvwm matches all 3.)
I thought the issue with the bran
ou want to use submenus with hotkeys assigned.
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> On 11/22/07, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "robert muth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I have a bunch of menus assigned to function keys.
> > > When I want to browse them, I
happened once before. I can drag things around. But I
> am sure this will stop as it has the last time. So, the question is -
> can I cause fvwm to dump some sort of a state, or something, which I
> could compare to the output when things don't work to figure out what
> the hell is g
f you look at the documentation for Exec
> (http://fvwm.org/documentation/manpages/unstable/fvwm.php#lbBW) it
> specifies that Exec doesn't wait for the command to complete. So what
> is probably happening is that you are starting to run SelectWindow.sh
> before you finish writing to wlist.txt
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> >
> > so, my question is how to find the exact name in the above config?
>
> Use xprop to find the class, which generally works well.
Or FvwmIdent.
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"John Meissen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thomas Adam said:
>> 2008/8/6 Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> I use the FvwmIconBox, so I have these lines in my .fvwmrc file:
>>
>> That's a pity.
>
> Why the sarcasm?
>
> Making that sort of judgmental statement without justification doesn't
>
Thomas Adam writes:
> 2009/1/27 Alexander Burger :
>> The effect is that xterm windows often will not receive the keyboard
>> focus when they get exposed because another window is closed above them,
>> or when the mouse cursor is moved into them after passing over some
>> other underlying window.
Alexander Burger writes:
> Thanks Thomas and Hans,
>
> now I tried some variations from Hans's config, without avail.
Thomas Dickey (Xterm author) will show up here sooner or later
(he always has in the past). If you are impatient you might
try to track him down.
way you want:
Key F7 A M Move
But this doesn't:
Key F7 A M Move 10p 10p
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> Hi Dan,
>
> thank's for the suggestions, but unfortunately they both don't do what
> I'm looking for:
>
> On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:45:13PM -0500, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Does this work the way you want:
>>
>>
nify Off
>
> Amongst many other ways of doing the same thing.
>
> More specific answers will come with more specific information from you, if
> the above doesn't help you.
Yep.
When I lose windows I use the built in Alt-Tab to find the window.
Pretty much the only time I use Alt-Tab.
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Thomas Adam writes:
> On 28 February 2012 00:26, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Am I the only one that can't figure out those Captchas?
>
> Hmm -- I've never had a problem with them in the past, although I
> didn't need to register since I already had a google accoun
"
>> +"K&Notes" Exec knotes
>> +"K&TeaTime" Exec kteatime
>
> A better solution might be to see if there is some sort of keybinding
> mnemonic field in the .menu file; I didn't look into this, but this
> works well enough for my needs, and so I submit it here in the hope it
> may be helpful to someone else.
Recently I started working on a new version of fvwm-menu-desktop.
Using the new version I'm able to edit menu descriptions using Alacarte
to include "&" where desired and have shortcuts appear in the menus.
Plus it gets the mini-icons right.
I'll redo the documentation when I'm ready to commit the changes.
If you like, I'll send you a copy.
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tFunction I exec applicationname
> And also how to make applications sticky only on certain pages?
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UT_MOVE_DISTANCE 5 /* pixels */
#define KDB_SHORTCUT_MOVE_DISTANCE_SMALL 1 /* pixels */
#define KDB_SHORTCUT_MOVE_DISTANCE_BIG 100 /* pixels */
And the logic is in:
libs/Target.c
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Walter Alejandro Iglesias writes:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 02:24:42PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Walter Alejandro Iglesias writes:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > On interactive Move/Resize the default step is 5 pixels, 100p holding
>> > Shi
then calling on another Page All (State
> 10) MoveToPage. This works, but I do not see it, when windows are
> tagged.
State is for conditional expressions.
We need more information about what you are trying to do.
Perhaps when you set the state, you should also set the style.
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d some programs.
Fvwm doesn't have a command to generate keystrokes.
(Note: this reply was first posted in 2002.)
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> On 22Nov12 09:17 -0500, Dan Espen wrote:
>> Fvwm doesn't have a command to generate keystrokes.
>
> I was thinking about:
>
> WindowId 0x1402179 FakeKeypress press H
>
> where the winid is a urxvtc
>
> this works for me as an example...
is one:
Key F2 A 4 Maximize grow grow
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Piotr Isajew writes:
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 07:53:16AM -0500, Dan Espen wrote:
>
>> Key F2 A 4 Maximize grow grow
>
> Thanks, Dan. It's almost what I want. It expands the window using
> all the available space based on it's current location. What I'm
> l
Piotr Isajew writes:
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:37:03AM -0500, Dan Espen wrote:
>
>> I guess you are thinking of the largest free rectangular area.
>
> yes, that's right
>
>> I'm not aware of any such feature.
>
> I'll try to look for a soluti
root window. Puzzling
>
> (The X-server is "NOUVEAU" the free server for nvidia cards) in the
> vesa server
I had similar problems with Nouveau.
Installing the Nvidia driver cured the problem.
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hat what I'm asking you this time can be
> too complex.
Hi,
Question should go to f...@fvwm.org.
I've copied them.
Not sure of the answer myself.
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ersion to openSuse and still experience the same
> problem. It may be me being stupid, but I would appreciate any help.
FAQ question 0.1?
http://www.fvwm.org/documentation/faq/#0.1
(Check your numlock key.)
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I've been using dclock since forever:
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may I ask?
I agree, really nice.
Except for where Thomas talks about function setRCDefaults,
I think you'll find it all in the man page.
The tutorial style is good for explaining how all the
parts work together.
The man page is meant to be a complete reference.
This means you have to find all the pieces.
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issue, but I guess it could be fixed.
Did you submit a stack dump?
I can set up a Schedule test, but it sounds like it's going to take
a couple of weeks to recreate the problem.
I don't see anything in the current code that would cause
a problem.
I suggest you start with running something current.
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stem.
Very likely the menu fvwm-menu-desktop generates is identical
to your Debian menu.
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ration step, Fvwm
creates a $HOME/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc file. Read it to see how
to create key bindings and to see if you have bindings to toggle full
screen.
If you don't already have one, they are easy to create.
You can access the built in menu with F1 (or Shift F1)
if unshifted F1 got assigned.
As you might be catching on, Fvwm is for people that like total
control of their system.
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lee writes:
> Hi,
>
> the subject pretty much says it:
>
> Can I somehow make it so that fvwm ignores particular windows when
> figuring out where to place a new one?
Not that I know of.
What are you trying to do?
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> thought "ok, it's been restarted like so often and might be confused and
> this will go away on a fresh start" --- but it didn't.
>
> The configuration is here: https://github.com/lee-/fvwm
Somewhere in there you're issuing a Delete or Destroy not in a window
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> Michael Großer writes:
>
>> Michael Großer wrote:
>>> Dan Espen wrote:
>>>> lee writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> the subject pretty much says it:
>>>>>
>>>
elliot s writes:
> If fvwm can (be made to) optionally ignore lower layers during
> auto-placement, that would work.
Long ago, Fvwm got so many options that I'm unable to keep track.
MinOverlapPlacementPenalties has a series of arguments including "below"
that may help.
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> Dan Espen writes:
>
>> lee writes:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what could be the reason for fvwm showing its kill icon on startup and
>>> when restarting?
>>
>> Do you mean kill cursor?
>
> I guess so --- it's so
attached screenshot.
Try:
Style * EWMHIgnoreWindowType
Then contact the Evince developers and tell them NO, NO, NO!
Let us know if that works. My copy of Evince doesn't display that
problem, so my suggestion is purely a guess.
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Tethys writes:
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Dan Espen wrote:
>
>> Style * EWMHIgnoreWindowType
>
> Nope, that didn't work. I'll buzz the evince developers, but I'm
> pretty much certain they'll ignore me. I don't exist in their brave
> new
n from yesterday get missed?
You should try:
Style * GNOMEIgnoreHints
If that doesn't do it, I'll build a recent version of one of these from
source and try to find out what's going on.
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dg.DesktopEntry Python classes to build menus myself.
>
> If Fvwm hold menu images into memory (without loading on demand) - present of
> (2) option looks natural for me.
You've lost me.
menudefs.hook looks to me like some kind of menu generator.
You should try fvwm-menu-desktop if you haven't done so already.
Use the size= parameter to control the icon sizes.
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Thomas Funk writes:
> Oleksandr Gavenko wrote:
>> On 2015-12-12, Dan Espen wrote:
> [snip]
>>> You should try fvwm-menu-desktop if you haven't done so already.
>>> Use the size= parameter to control the icon sizes.
>>
>> $ fvwm-menu-desktop | g
me> gthumb -v
gthumb 3.6.2, Copyright © 2001-2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
Hopefully, this post shows how to clear an existing set of options or
if you can get gthumb started, you can see where to turn off full screen.
Damn thing just started again for me.
I'm going to uninstall it.
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Dr Rainer Woitok writes:
> Greetings,
>
> On Wednesday, 2019-06-19 14:32:06 -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>
>> In message ,
>> Dan Espen wrote:
>>
>> >So, I'm afraid I can't duplicate your issue but I can see gthumb
>> >is re
screen" option
> under "Settings -> Browser". Bummer.
Try one of these:
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/gthumb/
versions 1.105 to 3.8.
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presses and releases the mouse button. 'H' stands for "Hold", i.e. if
the user presses a mouse button and holds it down for more than
ClickTime milliseconds. 'D' stands for "Double-click". The action 'I'
causes an action to be performed on the button-press, if the function is
invoked with prior knowledge of which window to act on.
These letters are only used in functions, menus have a different syntax.
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> Games
>
>
> and that doesn't work in that the menu entry doesn't show up regardless
> of the existance of the file. There doesn't seem to be a way to test
> whether something is defined or not; if there was, I could test if a
> menu has been defined and only then add it to another menu.
Try PipeRead. Use shell, Perl, Python, your choice.
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hw writes:
> Dan Espen writes:
>
>> hw writes:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> how can I conditionally add menu entries? For example:
>>>
>>>
>>> [...]
>>> Read fvwm-functions-starters-common.fvwm
>>> Read
ot;,$func);
if ( $f1 eq "Exec" ) {
$x=`which $f2 2>&1`;
$rc=$?;
if ( $rc != 0 ) {
# print "cant find &f2, rc $rc, cmd o/p $x\n";
return;
}
}
...
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> Hi all,
> I was wondering if there is a way to explicitly set (i.e. override the
> default
> inheritance) of the colorset used for the segment-drawing in the Vector style?
Nope, don't think so.
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> (best would be something which can be added to stalonetray).
The search "xbacklight gui" suggests there are multiple choices.
Perhaps this one:
https://github.com/theelous3/xbacklight-tooltip
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(rarely actually, but often enough to be annoying).
> >
>
> Could this be related to
> <http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.fvwm.general/2571>
After using the patch mentioned in my post a few days,
I found the problem came back.
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his done so that current path will bedisplayed on the title bar
> of the Xterm.
Your question has nothing to do with a window manager.
> I will higlly appreciate your help.
Do a Google search using:
current directory in title bar
you will find many answers.
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home> gcc -v
Reading specs from /new/local/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.3/specs
Configured with: ../configure
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.4.3
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nly have it grab all non-xterm windows?
>
> I tried
>
> Style "! xterm" ...
>
> but that didn't work. Any ideas? Thanks.
The order of style commands matters.
If you do:
Style * IconBox ...
Style xterm IconBox
The first command affects everything except xterm windows.
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tried the CVS snapshot of yesterday. Platform is
> amd64 (Debian).
>
> Any idea how to track this???
I don't have this problem.
Under options, preferences, options, uncheck save playlist positions
to see if that helps.
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y way to use a color xpm?
You can get color cursors from the latest X servers.
This has nothing to do with fvwm.
Do google searches for xcursor and xcursor theme.
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ted to think of ways that I could write a script that would
> traverse the directory structure and build the menu accordingly.
>
> If anyone has any help to offer, I'd appreciate it.
Look at the fvwm-menu-directory command, it comes with
fvwm. There is a man page too.
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st two other
> systems I've tried remote sessions from - it is only the system I use
> most of the time where it doesn't work (naturally :-)).
>
> I'll append my .fvwmrc2 file in case it hides any clues (but it is
Hmm, you do mean .fvwm2rc don't you?
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; root window bindings.
I forget the details, but didn't we agree that we
could create a "MoveFunc" for the current "Move" command
and have a builtin function for "Move".
If you had the bug, you would use "MoveFunc" otherwise
just use "Move".
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Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 10:24:58AM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
> > Dominik Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 12:28:46PM +, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > > > On 22 Sep 2005 11:31:43 +
the
> > > screen, the decorations would encroach on neighboring pages. Having a
> > > page size larger than the screen size would fix this.
If you don't want overlap, use desks, not pages.
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b/libexpat.so.0 (0x4036d000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x4038d000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
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wm background?
>
> I have tried adding the following line on init.hook
>
> + I exec feh -F $[fvwm_images]/file.png # -F == Fullscreen mode
> bu the image is showed only in Desktop 0, but not in the other Desktops.
Use --bg-scale
to put the image on the background.
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Style *firefox* StartsOnPage 0 2
>
> to start Firefox on a specific page?
Styles use Name, Class, or Resource.
You can see all 3 using FvwmIdent.
Notice how some of those names can change depending on application
state. For example, the Name changes to reflect the page viewed.
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> Does really no one know the FVWM option which
> is responsable for centering Windows?
Did you ask?
Style gnome-breakout CenterPlacement
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l 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> SVR4-style, SVR4-style, from 'FvwmForm'
Post a backtrace:
gdb `FvwmForm` core.5481
then type 'where',
then 'quit'
Copy, paste the output.
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eeded, where to start ?
>
> I use fvwm-2.4.6.
FvwmAnimate lets you use various colors, or a pixmap.
It always xor's.
There are dialogs to try various colors, check the man page.
If you want to change the source, see:
modules/FvwmAnimate/FvwmAnimate.c, search for "xor".
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ces a setting of important options it
detected, you should review them to make sure they are what you want.
You might want to make sure you build in the location of your icons
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an page prefers $DISPLAY (as do I)
> for better performance on local connections. (Besides, some scripts that
> invoke FvwmCommand -f don't have $HOSTDISPLAY.)
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Piscat
he commands in your config file. It might help
to take some out until the problem goes away.
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lockers, xscreensaver, xlock...
You can do that in your .xinitrc.
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board oriented:
In my .xinitrc:
nice xscreensaver -timeout 30 -cycle 60 -lock-mode&
In my .fvwm2rc:
Key Scroll_Lock A N Exec xscreensaver-command -activate
Locks after 30 minutes, changes every 60 minutes.
The scroll lock key locks the display.
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suppose you could try using a very short name, maybe an underscore
or period, or setting the foreground and the background to the same
color, but I think you'll be happiest with NoTitle.
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no effect.
The xterm man page will give you the correct name (background).
XTerm*background: black
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n/echo '*FvwmFormDefault: ButtonPointerFore $(ButtonPointerFore)';\
/bin/echo '*FvwmFormDefault: ButtonPointerBack $(ButtonPointerBack)';\
/bin/echo '*FvwmFormDefault: ButtonInPointerFore $(ButtonInPointerFore)';\
/bin/echo '*FvwmFormDefault: ButtonInPointerBack $(Butt
I don't know if anyone will be able to help,
but I think you want to check in with the XFree86 folks.
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that case, the program down there would be
xload. That program graphs CPU usage.
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theres not much development going
on.
Fvwm can replicate the top buttons with pixmaps.
The borders look flat. I believe fvwm can do that.
The borders are of unequal width, I don't think Fvwm can
do that.
The resize handle looks like a little pixmap in the lower right
corner, I don't t
hoping someone else would answer this one.
The normal way to get stack traces is to find the core file
and do:
gdb `whence X` core
and then type in where.
I don't know if that will work on Linux. I know I've had the
hardest time getting core files on Solaris.
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ed the sun freeware xpm package perhaps this is the issue.
You should include the configure output, but most likely,
its failing when trying to run the little sample program
it creates using the XPM library.
The fix is described in the INSTALL.fvwm file under:
"Shared Libraries in Non-stand
in the windowlist too.
This may be what you want.
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he sunpci software the keys will just cease working. What do I do?
1. Check the FAQ. I think its the first question.
2. Pay attention to the numlock key setting.
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quot; and "Mouse" commands.
The "Key" and "Mouse" commands are described under
"mouse, key and stroke bindings".
The R field in the Key and Mouse commands is the "context".
That's described in the Mouse command section.
le * NoIcon
You can still access apps using Alt-tab (Windowlist),
FvwmIconMan, FvwmIconBox, FvwmTaskBar.
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mber of maximal possible clients?
Install the latest Xsun patches and add "-clients 1024" to the Xsun
command line (if using the standard login screen, copy
/usr/dt/config/Xservers to /etc/dt/config/Xservers, then edit the last
line in /etc/dt/config/Xservers).
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n switch to full
> > screen mode like
> > acrobar reader or opera? Does the task disappear as
> > well?
> I don't have Opera installed.
> Acrobat Reader fullscreen still has the taskbar.
> Taksbar has "StaysOnTop" Style.
Please don't top post.
Does:
BugOpts
lash screen though.
FvwmEvent gets a message at "end_config_info" perhaps that
could be used instead of a timeout to remove the splash screen.
To hide the desktop, perhaps you could find a program that created
a full screen window and put that window in the top layer.
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o make fvwm show only CurrentPage hits when pressing
> alt-tab?
The information in the man page should give you all the hints
you need.
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> with with several windows strikes regularly.
>
> Can I preempt Mozilla's placement fetishism more effectively?
Do you know you can get Mozilla to open new windows in tabs?
I don't normally like MIDI applications but in the case of the
browser, it seems lik
Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 19:06 24 May 2002, Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | > Is there a setting to say "don't overlap the window with the focus"?
> | > Mozilla r
> ystem. I have seen the ones for 2.4.7, but there is no font loading section
> in there.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
If you are using FVWM from CVS, the file name for the man page
has changed from fvwm2.1 to fvwm.1.
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the configuration tool of choice. There are so many things a
gui can't anticipate.
I guess I should have known about "FvwmScript FvwmScript-BaseConfig",
maybe I've seen it before but I forgot about it. I'll have
to add it to my menus.
Maybe we should do more work
a specific "~/FVWM_Menu" directory, rather than dealing
> with .fvwm2rc.
There are 2 shells in the utils directory:
fvwm_make_browse_menu
fvwm_make_directory_menu
that demonstrate how to make a menu from directories.
Maybe, those shells will give you some ideas.
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r using the Fvwm command:
CursorStyle ROOT gumby
The cursor name "gumby" can be replaced with any of the names
in /usr/X11R6/include/X11//cursorfont.h. (The actual location
depends on your system.)
Check the man pages for fvwm and xsetroot for more information.
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uced color
> were used instead
Very nice look.
Sorry for the long delay, but I finally did get around to adding
your screenshot.
> Fvwm2 **does** rock !
> Waiting impatiently for native PNG support.
The betas have png support.
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misbehaves. Fvwm is not on the list of window managers
that it looks for.
We've contacted the Java developers, and its my understanding that
Java 1.4 should start working better.
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