Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 00:23 +, William Skaggs wrote: > No! The way I did it was broken. But the whole process is broken. It > is impossible to fix the interface if every tiny change can be vetoed > by any random person. The question is, how to find a process that > actually allows cha

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread William Skaggs
Michael Schumacher wrote: > And you do feel that the way to do this is to just commit things, and > everyone else has to keep up with the changes without knowing what > others are to be expected, and if something isn't right, we'll just have > to revert it? No! The way I did it was broken. But

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 20:51 +, William Skaggs wrote: > > You have a point here. But you also need to look at the costs of > > renaming a menu item. The documentation needs to change and > > users need to learn the new name. With the amount of plug-ins that > > we have it is rather diffi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread Michael Schumacher
William Skaggs wrote: > So I have a pretty coherent vision of which filters are useful > for which tasks, and what sort of interface a user needs in > order to make use of them. I feel that, given a free hand, > I would be able very rapidly to turn GIMP's filter collection > into something that t

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 20:21 +, William Skaggs wrote: > As I tried to explain, Wrap is not useful with edge detection. > It is very useful with blurring, because it makes opposite > edges look similar. With edge detection, all it does is to > cause an edge to be drawn at the border of the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread William Skaggs
Sven wrote: > You have a point here. But you also need to look at the costs of > renaming a menu item. The documentation needs to change and > users need to learn the new name. With the amount of plug-ins that > we have it is rather difficult to keep track of changes so IMO we should > try to a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread William Skaggs
From: Csar Rolln [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Please, don't remove the Wrap and Smear options, > because it are useful (tileable patterns is a example). > Removing the functionality of GIMP isn't usability. As I tried to explain, Wrap is not useful with edge detection. It is very useful with blurring, bec

[Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread César Rollán
> 4) Removed the "wrap-style" radio buttons from the interface [...] > > This was a little bit controversial. Let me add that as far as I can > see, it was a mistake to create these options in the first place. The > idea behind the Wrap option was to let a user make tileable patterns, > but it w

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-17 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Dec 17, 2007 10:32 AM, Sven Neumann wrote: > As you already noted, this plug-in does not have much use for the casual > user. Quite in opposite. Edge detection is one of the steps to make sky not look pale on photos ;-) Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 00:12 +, William Skaggs wrote: > > 1) Changed the menu entry from "Edge" to "Sharp Edges". Having > > an entry called "Edge" in the "Edge-detect" category is silly, and > > the thing that distinguishes this plugin is that it detects edges > > between neighboring pix

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-16 Thread Kevin Cozens
William Skaggs wrote: > 2) Added an "invert" control, so that you can see the edges as dark >lines on a light background. Without this, the preview is almost >useless. I did some voodoo to make "invert" the default for >interactive use, but not to change the result when "edge" is call

Re: [Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-16 Thread William Skaggs
Okay, that provoked a lot of controversy on #gimp. Let me follow up here because it's easier to say things in a coherent way. > 1) Changed the menu entry from "Edge" to "Sharp Edges". Having > an entry called "Edge" in the "Edge-detect" category is silly, and > the thing that distinguishes this

[Gimp-developer] Some changes to the "Edge" plug-in

2007-12-16 Thread William Skaggs
I've made a few tweaks to the "Edge" plug-in in the development branch, in order to make it easier to use and understand, which I would like to explain. 1) Changed the menu entry from "Edge" to "Sharp Edges". Having an entry called "Edge" in the "Edge-detect" category is silly, and the th