Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-04-02 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
bility to get to any acceptable level, not that I > >>>> want to run before I can walk. It’s the sheer body of knowledge, the > >>>> concepts and terms that I feel I haven’t got a solid grasp of, and > >>>> there’s so much more. So when I was doing th

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
t; Andrew > >>> On 31 Mar 2020, at 08:14, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Andrew, > >>> > >>> What you’ve done sounds great congrats, > >>> > >>> And don’t become an alcoholic, > >>> Become a d

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
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Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Original Message- > From: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2020 2:12 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A couple Terminal questions > > Oh, Simon, Simon !! > Perhaps coffee brew the next time? At least it isn't

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
; > > And don’t become an alcoholic, > > Become a drunkid > > > > Alcoholics have to go to meetings > > > > Drunkids just keep drinking. > > > > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com&

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
go to meetings > > Drunkids just keep drinking. > > From: 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> > Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2020 7:08 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com&g

RE: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread Simon A Fogarty
rom: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg > Sent: Monday, 30 March 2020 10:47 PM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: A couple Terminal questions > > Hi! > What does homebrew actually do? > Is this a library or what? &g

RE: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-31 Thread Simon A Fogarty
ubject: Re: A couple Terminal questions Hello Janina, I think I’ve done it. I’ve made TDSR talk with Daniel, British voice. I’m exhausted and my nerves are jangling but I’m so glad. by the time I become a mediocre cli user, I shall probably become an alcoholic too. I got the same warning m

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
aries@googlegroups.com On > Behalf Of Anders Holmberg > Sent: Monday, 30 March 2020 10:47 PM > To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries > Subject: Re: A couple Terminal questions > > Hi! > What does homebrew actually do? > Is this a library or what? > Thanks. > /A >

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: Wow. You are moving forward quickly, Andrew. Congratulations! Quick Comment: I wouldn't worry about TDSR on Linux, unless you want to compare and contrast between it and Speakup and/or Fenrir. Of course, if you prefer it to those other two, by all means add it to your Linux! It also

RE: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Well the last time I had home brew It made me really really ill, I was throwing up for hours. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Monday, 30 March 2020 10:47 PM To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: A coupl

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hello Janina, I think I’ve done it. I’ve made TDSR talk with Daniel, British voice. I’m exhausted and my nerves are jangling but I’m so glad. by the time I become a mediocre cli user, I shall probably become an alcoholic too. I got the same warning message I’m pasting just underneath: "You

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi Again, Andrew: Yeah, I can't say for sure, but I think I must have steered you to an out of date repository. I checked with my installation which runs as expected and got the following pointer: https://docs.brew.sh If you go there and follow the Installation link, you should have up to date

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: Homebrew should be fine with Sierra. It's possible the link in the page you got from me was old. That would explain the error you got. So, I'm thinking good clear instructions, but an old, out of date web pointer. I'll check that out for you. Meanwhile, there's no damage done. You ju

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Dear Janina, Ok, so I have gone ahead and installed Homebrew. Everything seems to have gone ok apart from the fact that after executing the command to install Homebrew, I got a warning message saying that this installation was old and unsupported and whether I wanted to go ahead. I ddid go ah

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks, Greg. This is helpful. If I believe I find a bug, or if I have an RFE, shall I simply open an issue on github? Thanks again for forwarding this info. Janina Greg Wocher writes: > Hello, > Here is a podcast dedicated to learning the terminal on the Mac. It is called > taming the termin

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: A couple responses to your questions here up top: 1.) Sounds -- Usually it's some kind of audio file, not speech. You might call it a boing, or a bleep, or whatever. In W3C we sometimes call them sonicons, or even earcons (punning on a mispelling of icons as eye cons). If you pres

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, Here is a podcast dedicated to learning the terminal on the Mac. It is called taming the terminal. https://www.bartbusschots.ie/s/blog/taming-the-terminal/ There is also a text tutorial for each of the individual podcasts. Greg

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hi Janina, Just to report that I have just successfully put the info from ls -l command into a text file using redirection and the greater than > sign. It’s worked! How clever. So exciting! When you use in your description the verb “sound”, do you mean send/write content or result of the co

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Anders: Very excellent answer to your question, plus good instructions for getting homebrew on your mac at this page: https://www.studytonight.com/post/what-is-homebrew-and-how-to-install-it-on-mac-osx Anders Holmberg writes: > Hi! > What does homebrew actually do? > Is this a library or what? >

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: I can, and sbelow will, walk you through getting homebrew installed on your Mac. It's just useful to have it. What it does: Allows you to run a lot of Linux utilities directly on your Mac terminal. Now, for tdsr, which I presume means something like "terminal desktop screen readner,'

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! What does homebrew actually do? Is this a library or what? Thanks. /A > 30 mars 2020 kl. 11:33 skrev 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > : > > Janina, > > I’ve looked carefully at Greg’s suggestion and then did a search for Homebrew > and TDSR and since the only thing i understand about

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Janina, I’ve looked carefully at Greg’s suggestion and then did a search for Homebrew and TDSR and since the only thing i understand about Python is that it is one of the programming languages, I thought I’m too green around the gills to even attempt to play around with TDSR in case I mess up m

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Hello Janina, I’m having a big grin on my face as I’m reading your very informative but also witty response. Fabulous! In these tense times, any amount of humour is precious. Take care Andrew > On 30 Mar 2020, at 05:48, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, Andrew: > > Glad

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Simon, Andrew, All: Simon is correct. The correct switches will indeed allow you to write the output of any command to a file. This works everywhere, because everybody wants this kind of functionality--whether Mac, Windows, or Linux/Unix. It's called redirection, and it goes one of two ways: Usi

RE: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-30 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Andrew, Terminal should let you do what your after, With the listing of files and if you use the correct switchs you should be able to write the list of files and associated data to a file I know it's possible to do this in ms dos and power shell, so I would think linux etc would do the s

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Thanks for the reminder, Greg. I'm just now starting the install of TDSR. For me that means an update of homebrew, followed by an upgrade of python3, and that is taking quite some time. Hopeing the result will truly be easier to use than VO in the terminal, as you suggest. That would be a good thi

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Andrew: Glad to hear you're giving the CLI the old college try. Hope it becomes a very comfortable environment for you! I want to suggest it's important you focus on zsh as Apple now defaults to zsh. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208050. Since you're a beginning command line user, you d

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries
Hi Jonathan, Andrew, All: With respect to using the tab key in the terminal ... Jonathan Cohn writes: > Your second question was related to file completion. This says too little. Yes, filename completion, but also command completion. In fact the strategy is widely implemented because it helps u

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries
Jonathan, You are so kind. Thank you for your response. I’m new to the command line, but I’m very serious in learning. So your kind attitude and response in non-technical terms is very welcome. As to the 2nd point, I was surprised because I’m following Joe Kissel’s from TitBits Take Control

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread Jonathan Cohn
Well, for the first question just interact a few times with the window and you should be able to use the voiceover cursor to review and select things. VO-return should start selecting and vo-return a second time should finish the selection operation. Also, double tapping with mouse will select

Re: A couple Terminal questions

2020-03-29 Thread Greg Wocher
Hello, You might want to try the TDSR console screen reader for Mac. It makes working with the terminal a bit easier. It can be found at: https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr Greg Wocher > On Mar 29, 2020, at 10:21 AM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries > wrote: