Re: [Opensim-dev] Opensim beginner

2010-02-12 Thread Stefan Andersson
I would presume you also need to schedule the prim for a terse or a full update. /Stefan From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Nilushi perera Sent: den 12 februari 2010 07:16 To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opens

Re: [Opensim-dev] How Was OpenSim "Born"?

2010-02-11 Thread Stefan Andersson
I just had a quick look, and I think 01-03 is in the git repo; for some reason the version naming scheme that was introduced around 0.4 has gotten corrupted on the earlier versions; at least the 'origin' branches 0.1-prestable Sugilite Tourmaline Ruby Zircon And quite possibly "Standalone

Re: [Opensim-dev] peticion de ayuda

2010-02-05 Thread Stefan Andersson
So, I guess we will need a to devise a format, protocol or app named PADL. What will the acronym stand for? /Stefan From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of James Stallings II Sent: den 5 februari 2010 14:51 To: opensim-dev@lists.

[Opensim-dev] Friends in trouble

2010-02-01 Thread Stefan Andersson
Esteemed fellow metanauts, Today I read this disturbing post; http://blogs.sun.com/wonderland/entry/good_news_and_bad_news Basically, the SUN Wonderland seems to be losing SUN (now Oracle) support. They now need to transition into a community-driven effort. This prompted me to add t

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mumble & Voice

2009-12-07 Thread Stefan Andersson
essage- > > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- > > boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Stefan Andersson > > Sent: Monday, 7 December 2009 8:26 AM > > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Mumble & Voice >

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mumble & Voice

2009-12-07 Thread Stefan Andersson
u could > have standard clients getting crappy PCM8000, people with better clients > would get whatever you could negotiate (Speex?) > > Adam > > > -Original Message- > > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- > > boun...@lists.berlios.

Re: [Opensim-dev] Opensim Wave?

2009-12-07 Thread Stefan Andersson
On a side note, from what I understand, The Blink 3D arch (that is client-based, with very little going on on the server) uses xmpp to communicate object property updates between the clients. So, without diving too deep into the protocol, I’d venture you could do quite a lot with it, not only te

Re: [Opensim-dev] Mumble & Voice

2009-12-07 Thread Stefan Andersson
Since the SL viewer accepts command line options to tell it what port the SLVoice service is available on, and also whether to attempt to start SLVoice.exe, if you don't want to replace the exe, you could just as well have the custom voice exe start first, establish a service port, then let it (the

[Opensim-dev] OpenSim turns Three

2009-12-02 Thread Stefan Andersson
Hey people, Just figured I'd remind you out that in less than two months, on 29th of Jan 2010, OpenSim turns three. Celebrations and announcements are in order. As a starter, this is my blog post from the last birthday: http://lbsa71.net/2009/01/21/opensim-turns-two/ Love, /Stefan

Re: [Opensim-dev] Min and Max X,Y location

2009-10-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
You also need to make sure your default and default is set correctly; otherwise the grid service is sending you to a non-existing location, even if its in standalone. /Stefan From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Huan Dau Sent:

[Opensim-dev] Stepping down from OpenSim core

2009-09-23 Thread Stefan Andersson
then, I didn't agree; for some time now, I have. So rather than lingering, I'm leaving. I wish to thank all core devs, past and present; thank you all gridnauts, testers, hosts, customers and partners - It's been an immensely satisfying ride. Hope to see you all on the 3D We

Re: [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?

2009-09-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
he existing databases. Many times > the extra data is just a few more fields. Having to setup entire > databases for those plugins, separate from the existing ones, and > requiring coordination with the existing ones, seems like an > unnecessary > complexity. > > So definitel

Re: [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?

2009-09-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
For what it's worth, I'd rather have us encourage exploring notions of cloud-like and distributed services than to create a serve-all string storage. Pitched against monolithic database providers, I feel it's more in line with the OpenSim distributed, modular and decoupled mantras. /Stefan > ---

Re: [Opensim-dev] Thoughts on adding a generic key-value storage system to OpenSim?

2009-09-21 Thread Stefan Andersson
John, I'm not a big fan of tall/skinny untyped string/string storage, as I believe that approach always come back to bite you in the ass in the end. Adam F did propose the same thing a year ago, and I was against it then as well. Since then, my stance has softened somewhat, as there hasn't really

Re: [Opensim-dev] scene import/export to another app: oar? dotscene? collada?

2009-09-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
Shack, Have you read http://opensimulator.org/wiki/OpenSim:Xml_Serialization page? Also, Adam F authored (?) an orphaned page http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Xml_Objects_Format that I'm wondering what it's about? /Stefan > -Original Message- > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [

Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning reference servers in core

2009-09-16 Thread Stefan Andersson
+1 and some cheers to go. > -Original Message- > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- > boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of d...@metaverseink.com > Sent: den 16 september 2009 16:23 > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] pruning refere

[Opensim-dev] Proposal: OpenSim StyleCop compliance

2009-09-10 Thread Stefan Andersson
Hey guys, I've been working with Microsoft StyleCop compliance for legacy projects lately, and wrote a blog about it: http://lbsa71.net/2009/09/10/introducing-stylecop-on-legacy-projects-using-s tylecop-for-resharper/ basically, StyleCop is a tool for enforcing Micrososft Source Analysis r

Re: [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?

2009-09-09 Thread Stefan Andersson
Good call; if nobody objects within a reasonable timeframe, I'm all +1 for it as well. /Stefan From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Nebadon Izumi Sent: den 9 september 2009 22:44 To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [

Re: [Opensim-dev] Make ODE and Meshmerizer the default options?

2009-09-09 Thread Stefan Andersson
Yes, One of the main reason for introducing, and keeping, .Net-only modules for physics was to ensure minimal friction on first install. One option would be to work on the installation procedure; to add an "engine" configuration step to initial setup, having ODE as default; this would let u

Re: [Opensim-dev] versioning question

2009-09-03 Thread Stefan Andersson
I haven't been working with git all that much since the switch, but it seems to me, that what the community wants is some sense of progression to compare two "official" git revisions to each others. While sequence make no or little sense in a 'true' git world, I believe that we might want to think

Re: [Opensim-dev] Currency

2009-08-21 Thread Stefan Andersson
Aldon, The source codes are hosted mostly on the GForge; some resources I could dig up was these: . The DTL Module - http://forge.opensimulator.org/gf/project/currency/ . OpenCurrency, was the SampleMoneyModule - http://forge.opensimulator.org/gf/project/opencurrency/ .

Re: [Opensim-dev] Changes to IAssetDataPlugin

2009-08-16 Thread Stefan Andersson
> I propose that we change to just having one "Store" method that > replaces both the insert and update method, which will insert or > update. This is what we have in practice with MySQL, so this will > just change the interface to match it. My biggest concern would be > breaking external data pr

Re: [Opensim-dev] author names in git vs. svn

2009-07-21 Thread Stefan Andersson
> lbsa71 = lbsa71 > -- > __ > > Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley > sda...@gmail.com Linux Users Group > http://dague.net http://mhvl

Re: [Opensim-dev] Currency

2009-07-21 Thread Stefan Andersson
Mark, Just a couple of corrections: I have heard no 'rage' from any core dev over the concept of an "OpenCurrency" project. On the contrary, that is what we want to see happen, preferably several currency projects targeting different usage models and catering for differing audiences. Wh

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for documentation - InventoryItems.InvType

2009-07-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
jradford > Sent: den 16 juli 2009 07:59 > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for documentation - > InventoryItems.InvType > > Its in OpenMetaverseTypes.dll which I believe you guys are using. > > On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:47:54 +0200, "S

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for documentation - InventoryItems.InvType

2009-07-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
Maybe that should go into an enum somewhere, for documentations sake. /Stefan > -Original Message- > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- > boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Frisby, Adam > Sent: den 16 juli 2009 06:46 > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Su

Re: [Opensim-dev] STUN for OpenSim?

2009-07-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
to not let that > > happen, except in carefully prescribed circumstances.  Same thing > > applies to VOIP. > > > > The problem of people not being able to find your IP address has > already > > been solved by services such as DynDNS. > > > > On Tue, 2009-07

Re: [Opensim-dev] Where to put synthetic objects?

2009-07-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
Do you mean they will be included in core, and what functionality does these 'Synth' objects bring? /Stefan > -Original Message- > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- > boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Sean Dague > Sent: den 10 juli 2009 20:21 > To: open

[Opensim-dev] STUN for OpenSim?

2009-07-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
One of the main shortcomings of the linden-legacy model is that OpenSim does not work well (as in simple and consistent) from behind NATs and several home routers. I was thinking, if something like STUN could help us overcome this? There is a c# implementation here; http://www.codeplex.co

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: change opensim command line options for console

2009-07-10 Thread Stefan Andersson
and line options for console Minimal? +1 too 2009/7/10 Melanie Well, basic _is_ a basic console no editing, no colors. Otherwise functional. So what should it be called? Melanie Stefan Andersson wrote: > Same here, +1 but better name for 'basic'. > > /Stefan > >>

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: change opensim command line options for console

2009-07-10 Thread Stefan Andersson
Same here, +1 but better name for 'basic'. /Stefan > -Original Message- > From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev- > boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Melanie > Sent: den 10 juli 2009 13:35 > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: c

Re: [Opensim-dev] Visual Studio 2005 support

2009-07-09 Thread Stefan Andersson
+1 From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behalf Of Charles Krinke Sent: den 9 juli 2009 22:18 To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Visual Studio 2005 support +1, seems reasonable to me. Charles _ From

Re: [Opensim-dev] Deprecate OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer and OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer?

2009-07-09 Thread Stefan Andersson
How about “Redesigned OpenSim Basic Universal Server Technology” – R.O.B.U.S.T? ;) Btw, You will hear no end of references to LoA from me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1jzVJjk32E /Stefan From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de [mailto:opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de] On Behal

Re: [Opensim-dev] Deprecate OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer and OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer?

2009-07-09 Thread Stefan Andersson
This discussion went west pretty fast it seems. To try to get things on track; this is what I've heard said, and proposed, in roughly this proposed order: 1) The BUST architecture might or might not change name. *This is a separate item for discussion*. 2) The BUST architecture s

Re: [Opensim-dev] Currency

2009-07-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
Aldon, > Clearly, there are issues about people not understanding what it means to > use alpha code, as we learned last April, but that is also not a reasonable > excuse for not producing code. All code is alpha at some stage. I can assure you that neither of us are looking for excuses not t

Re: [Opensim-dev] Currency

2009-07-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
development and quality assurance resources. That said, there is nothing stopping noone from creating and distributing currency, points or other economic implementations. We have provided hooks and examples. Best regards, Stefan Andersson From: colin.with...@eumetsat.int To: opensim

Re: [Opensim-dev] Currency

2009-07-07 Thread Stefan Andersson
Rock, An implementation of a functional monetary system has been declared as out of scope for OpenSim. It is something that has to go into the custom implementation/third party provider layer. There is a live and ongoing discussion as of where to draw the line for what goes into the core, a

Re: [Opensim-dev] Deprecate OpenSim.Grid.InventoryServer and OpenSim.Grid.AssetServer?

2009-07-07 Thread Stefan Andersson
+1 by all means. At the same time, I invite discussion on the cable beach descendant - do you see that this one could be merged into the... bust? Again, big thanks to you and Diva for pulling this off. It's a major step forward indeed! /Stefan > -Original Message- > From: opensim-dev-bo

Re: [Opensim-dev] Question: Collaborative tools in Opensim

2009-07-03 Thread Stefan Andersson
I know Darren implemented a pretty nifty real-time standard-issue SL viewer OpenSim whiteboard for drawing and placing images on, point and click - and the Rex people have been supporting VNC-on-a-prim for quite some time. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:53:37

[Opensim-dev] Proposal: Changing Runprebuild.bat

2009-07-01 Thread Stefan Andersson
Guys, As we officially no longer support Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 (neither Pro nor Express) I propose we get rid of either of the runprebuild bats. My vote is for the runprebuil2008.bat to go, and upgrade runprebuild to build the vs2008 target. Thoughts? /Stefan ___

Re: [Opensim-dev] Adding virtual to many methods on Region/Framework/* for experimentation

2009-07-01 Thread Stefan Andersson
I would argue that opening up for (reasonable) subclassing is a very core ideal of opensim-as-an-API. And on the subject; somewhere in 0.7 land, I would argue that we have to rethink the whole scene/SOG/SOP bit - right now, state and behavior is intermingled to the degree that we cannot do anyt

Re: [Opensim-dev] Help needed for stand alone grid for 800 users... HELP!

2009-06-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
I'm so happy saltwater melds in my eyes. <3 Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:35:48 +0200 > From: mela...@t-data.com > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Help needed for stand alone grid for 800 users... > HELP

Re: [Opensim-dev] Shaping the user services

2009-06-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
7;re at it, could we please make the authentication token pluggable, or at least something a little bit less SL-centric than first, last, pass? pluggable credentials class would be best, but even string + pass would be better than the current. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Mon, 22 J

[Opensim-dev] Using Grider to teleport SL <-> OpenSim

2009-06-02 Thread Stefan Andersson
I would set up an sl lightweight sim as a 'storefront' on SL, couldn't grider then intercept tp requests to that storefront and redirect it to my opensim region and vice versa? Best regards, Stefan Andersson ___ Opensim-dev maili

Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion

2009-06-01 Thread Stefan Andersson
and would have to be re-confirmed) and quite possibly some other things as well. I believe this class is quite similar to the 'updater' class we already have, but that we don't use. Maybe with some tweaking, it could become that? Anybody out there would want to be such a &#x

Re: [Opensim-dev] HUGE ASSET CACHE

2009-05-31 Thread Stefan Andersson
On a side note, one thing to profile would be to work towards having large binaries transferred as streams instead of bringing them into memory and transforming them into various temporary forms. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 08:12:30 -0700 > From

Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion

2009-05-31 Thread Stefan Andersson
e major restructuring) in a "post 0.7.0" category This way, we could "clear" mantis, as in getting to a point where all issues with the current feature set is fixed or closed. Again, only striving to set a tone. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Sun,

Re: [Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion

2009-05-31 Thread Stefan Andersson
sures that would make us all look pretty god damn good. And hell, I stated it would be ambitious. Aim for the stars, hit the treetops, you know. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 06:24:51 -0700 From: nebadon2...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Op

[Opensim-dev] 0.7 Release Discussion

2009-05-31 Thread Stefan Andersson
p us recoup, and then we can all go back to fiddling with our various dev projects again. What you say? Best regards, Stefan Andersson ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Is the message "Please wait 5 minutes" still needed?

2009-05-31 Thread Stefan Andersson
How about configurable, with 0 being immediately? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 20:52:19 +0200 From: drscofi...@xyzzyxyzzy.net To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Is the message "Please wait 5 minutes" still needed? Frisby,

Re: [Opensim-dev] Anonymous Avatar

2009-05-28 Thread Stefan Andersson
third party user database) If somebody would code a reasonably encapsulated and configurable patch for something like this, I think many would be thankful. /Stefan Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:00:29 +0200 From: thomas.schind...@t-systems-mms.com To

Re: [Opensim-dev] Tag 0.6.6

2009-05-28 Thread Stefan Andersson
I don't think there should be any limits as to when a release is tagged; go forth with the release cycle recipe - just make sure to apply the newly (post 0.6.5) introduced 'Flavour' if you decide to do so. http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Release_Cycle Best regards, S

Re: [Opensim-dev] Memory cache

2009-05-27 Thread Stefan Andersson
Imaze, if you are doing work from scratch, you always have the option to keep a proprietary version for yourself, whilst releasing one version as BSD. As long as you're not using code that any other OpenSim developer has committed, all rights still belong solely to you. > Before jumping

[Opensim-dev] OpenSim lightweight Release Cycle

2009-05-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
I've added http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Release_Cycle and http://opensimulator.org/wiki/On_revisions%2C_tags_and_branches to the wiki. I would appreciate greatly if somebody could link to these pages from good places on the wiki. Best regards, Stefan Ande

Re: [Opensim-dev] What is the difference between various releases

2009-05-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
r for the 'tag' revision. (it's not a reference, it's a copy) the act of renaming 0.6.5-rc1 to 0.6.5-post-fixes advances its revision number. et c. simply: the revision number is not a 'version number'. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Tue, 26 May 2

[Opensim-dev] FW: On Revisions, tags and branches

2009-05-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
In light of recent confusion, reposting this; should go onto wiki, I suppose. Best regards, Stefan Andersson From: ste...@tribalmedia.se To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 20:27:06 +0200 Subject: [Opensim-dev] On Revisions, tags and branches Esteemed colleagues

[Opensim-dev] Announce: 0.6.5-release now tagged

2009-05-25 Thread Stefan Andersson
t;release" in the version info. Happy 0.6.5 everybody! Best regards, Stefan Andersson ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Memory cache

2009-05-20 Thread Stefan Andersson
If the cache is releasing objects, I think we might well be seeing LOH fragmentation. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc534993.aspx The solution would then be to break the binaries apart into byte cucks smaller than the LOH trshold. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > From

Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes

2009-05-20 Thread Stefan Andersson
Zonja, thank you for your feedback. Has anybody else seen this behaviour, and is it something that has been fixed in subsequent revisions? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:15:29 +0200 From: zonja.capal...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject

Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes

2009-05-20 Thread Stefan Andersson
Yes, I've done nothing in trunk. Check out /branches/0.6.5-rc1 Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 01:31:00 -0700 From: nebadon2...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes I just updated trunk and its

Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes

2009-05-19 Thread Stefan Andersson
Okay, so I branched off /branches/0.6.5-rc1 based on 9561, and upped the revision numbers. Please all testers (from now on fondly known as "trunkheads") give that a spin, and give your feedback so we can nail it and update the wiki et c. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Dat

Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking OpenSim.ini changes

2009-05-19 Thread Stefan Andersson
Can we _please_ post-tag a 0.6.5-rc1, from before the current breaking changeset? Anybody got a good candidate rev? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 05:43:06 -0500 From: mark.malew...@gmail.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] breaking

Re: [Opensim-dev] WARNING: r9562 may break things

2009-05-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
Project per backend function, there will be lots of small projects in the solution. On a side note, shouldn't the Region server move into the Servers as well? Just a thought. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:37:27 +0200 > From: mela...@t-data.

Re: [Opensim-dev] MRM Loader

2009-05-12 Thread Stefan Andersson
Is there a degree of abstraction that can be attained so as to fuse them into one configurable LSL Script Engine? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:38:11 -0700 From: m...@maimedleech.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] MRM Loader In res

Re: [Opensim-dev] Exposed web interfaces in OpenSim

2009-05-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
Excellent job! Now, if we could just get example interaction contents for each of those, we'd open a world of possibilitites for web developers! :D Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:23:34 +0300 > From: sempu...@gmail.com > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlio

[Opensim-dev] OpenSim hits r10k.

2009-05-07 Thread Stefan Andersson
gards, Stefan Andersson ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Upgrading NUnit

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Andersson
actly why it breaks, as the typeloader just gives me an NullException. Anyway, if this is a breaker for the linux peeps, I suggest we postpone until a fix has arrived. I can download an older nunit-gui. ;-) Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:33:07 +0800 >

[Opensim-dev] Upgrading NUnit

2009-05-06 Thread Stefan Andersson
system 'Panda' doesn't get acute indigestion on this. Best regards, Stefan Andersson ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Alternatively Identifying Assets using URL's

2009-05-01 Thread Stefan Andersson
the point of proofing it, but I believe you all understand what I'm saying. Have a look at what uses the fairly new ContainsReferences method on AssetBase to see where I was going. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:56:57 +0300 > From: tommi.s.e.l

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
+1 on breaking things more often in trunk. That said, unless we have 'release' tags reasonably up-to-date, people will use trunk and resent opensim for it not working, whatever we tell them. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:01:43 +0200 > From: me

Re: [Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
otocols would be one less obstacle. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > From: john.hurli...@intel.com > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:32:12 -0600 > Subject: [Opensim-dev] Standardizing OpenSim data formats > > Currently, OpenSim server<->

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
> > 2. On your previous suggested ini stuff, in my opinion something like > > > > UserService = { local | remote } > > > > would be clearer than > > > > LocalUserService = {True|False} > > > > From what I remember, specifying remote is understandable even if the > > services ar

Re: [Opensim-dev] Opensim-dev Digest, Vol 20, Issue 75

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
Just a heads up; I will probably not have time to champion the release cycle I have outlined in earlier posts - I hereby declare and underline it being a community effort. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > From: r...@ralf-haifisch.biz > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Date: Sat, 25

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
Fair enough. Again, I'm all in favour for actual coding and experimentation over upfront architecture debates. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:48:12 -0700 > From: d...@metaverseink.com > To: ste...@tribalmedia.se > CC: opensim-dev@lists.berlios

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-29 Thread Stefan Andersson
We could then have an method similar to the way we define/select physics engines; > 2. On your previous suggested ini stuff, in my opinion something like > > UserService = { local | remote } > > would be clearer than > > LocalUserService = {True|False} So that each UserService module needs

Re: [Opensim-dev] moving away from grid vs. standalone

2009-04-28 Thread Stefan Andersson
In my world, the grid=true and all that were simply shorthands. It's always been our (my) intention that we would get to a point where you'd 'assemble' your installation, preferrably thru a gui. > Below is a draft of > what OpenSim.ini could look like. Thoughts? > > -

Re: [Opensim-dev] GetAssetStreamHandler, grid mode and caching

2009-04-26 Thread Stefan Andersson
is be cached' discussion. I see no reason why they shouldn't be. The reason they aren't is because they are jurassic - stemming from the 'true alpha' days when caching would just add another layer to debug. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Sun, 26

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Release Candidate Prospects

2009-04-24 Thread Stefan Andersson
So, can anybody champion a suitable rc revision? Give us a number, goddammit! :D Best regards, Stefan Andersson > From: a...@deepthink.com.au > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:59:50 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Relea

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5Release Candidate 1Prospects

2009-04-22 Thread Stefan Andersson
Give me a rev, and I'll tag it, then let's take it for a drive, rev the rev, kick the wheels and see if we buy the car. Best regards, Stefan Andersson > Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:16:32 -0700 > From: cmick...@gmail.com > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: Re:

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5Release Candidate 1Prospects

2009-04-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
Is this fixed? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:42:45 +0100 > From: ch...@codetorque.co.uk > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5Release Candidate > 1Prospects > > Ah yes,

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of "grid"

2009-04-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
> > Am I correct in assuming that the hypergrid then boils down to the > > "untrusted" connections? What is left, basically. > > Well, not quite. Given that a grid can contain several trust domains, > there may be untrusted connections even within a grid. For example, > Wright Plaza should

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of "grid"

2009-04-17 Thread Stefan Andersson
Wonderful job, Diva. I think we're onto something here. > > - "Simulator trust domain": a set of simulators that trust each other, > > operated by one single authority Sounds fine; akin or parallell to an 'estate' perhaps? I propose the entity "Resource Services": A set of zero or more

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
... unless it was exposed in that interface, or the functionality was available in some other way. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:12:57 +0200 > From: mela...@t-data.com > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: Re: [Opensim-de

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
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[Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Release Candidate 1 Prospects

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
rticularly fond of, please speak up. With that, I leave the floor open. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
Hell, +1 on solving the issue at hand without going into long architectural discussion. Just chipping in. :D Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:37:58 +0200 > From: mela...@t-data.com > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: Re:

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
t bother, add the method and move on. > I believe that would not be in the spirit of the BSD licensing if we > were to say "you can do what you want with it, but we'll make it as > hard as we can". Nobody has, as far as I can see, forwarded that sentiment. I think we m

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
believe that those things should probably look (subtly or radically) different. Not to _hide_ core functionality from the module, but to provide _tailored_ functionality, enumerated for smooth decoupling and encapsulation. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Tue, 14 Ap

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-14 Thread Stefan Andersson
de in a hygienic way. Laying the foundations for a ISceneAPI, if you will? On my mind for a long time, both these things has been. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:02:45 +0100 > From: jjusti...@googlemail.com > To: opensim-dev@lists.berli

Re: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Drop VS 2005 suppost [Was: C# 3.0 vs .Net 2]

2009-04-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
then introduce a VS 2005 'breaker' to really get things going. Do we have a 0.6.5-rc1 rev? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: ste...@tribalmedia.se To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:32:04 +0100 Subject: [Opensim-dev] Proposal: Drop

Re: [Opensim-dev] Security: multiple or the most generic?

2009-04-13 Thread Stefan Andersson
to resolve user urls. Thoughts? (It baffles me we don't seem to have that already - I'm not working on the AssetInventory server as I feel its ultimate destiny is still somewhat hazy?) Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:25:06 -0700 > Fr

Re: [Opensim-dev] Backports Testing Request

2009-04-09 Thread Stefan Andersson
tter help me test this". Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB From: a...@deepthink.com.au To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 02:46:09 -0400 Subject: [Opensim-dev] Backports Testing Request Could everyone running trunk please test r9048 extensively.

[Opensim-dev] Custom Nunit CategoryAttribute

2009-04-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
://lbsa71.net/2009/04/09/nunit-custom-categoryattribute-and-resharper-testrunner/ Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB ___ Opensim-dev mailing list Opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/opensim-dev

Re: [Opensim-dev] [Opensim-commits] r9036 - in trunk/OpenSim

2009-04-08 Thread Stefan Andersson
Done. I restored the gridlaunch as well, as I took the deletion of it to be another mistake? Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de CC: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de; opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de From: alan_w...@us.ibm.com Date: Wed, 8 Apr

Re: [Opensim-dev] On Revisions, tags and branches

2009-04-05 Thread Stefan Andersson
> However, given that this means source releases magically appear > shortly after tags, I'd recommend just tagging off 0.6.4.1-release, > 0.6.4.2-release, etc when fixes go in that should release to the world. Good call, Sean; I think that should be how we do it. At least, we could tag it on

[Opensim-dev] On Revisions, tags and branches

2009-04-04 Thread Stefan Andersson
n 1343 and 1780" or "0.6.2 post-fixes, between revision 1764 and 2006" again lets you compare revision numbers to indicate advancement of state. So, don't tell people to check a certain revision out, unless you mean _exactly_ that version - tell them the logical path to it inst

Re: [Opensim-dev] Facebook app: inventory trade

2009-04-03 Thread Stefan Andersson
regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 15:26:10 -0700 From: dzona...@dzonux.net To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Facebook app: inventory trade What I had in mind maybe more simple than what TribalOne has done so far. What you showed actually

Re: [Opensim-dev] Facebook app: inventory trade

2009-04-03 Thread Stefan Andersson
on of OpenSim could be a good example of creating custom authorization and user data services for OpenSim. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 13:31:45 -0700 > From: dzona...@dzonux.net > To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: [Opensim-

Re: [Opensim-dev] New language for Downloads Page

2009-04-02 Thread Stefan Andersson
I added an 'older versions archive' paragraph too, just to push trunk even lower down the page. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:46:44 -0400 > From: sda...@gmail.com > To: opensim-us...@lists.berlios.de; opensim-dev@lists.b

Re: [Opensim-dev] New language for Downloads Page

2009-04-02 Thread Stefan Andersson
Yay Sean! <3 Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:46:44 -0400 > From: sda...@gmail.com > To: opensim-us...@lists.berlios.de; opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de > Subject: [Opensim-dev] New language for Downloads Page > > A lot of what t

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