Problem in dropping Materialized View

2003-10-16 Thread Siddharth Haldankar
Hi Gurus   Oracle 8.1.7 on HP Unix   I have some problems in Materialized view   Here are the sequence of steps Created a normal view CT_PRODUCTID_VW Created a materialized view CT_PRODUCID_MVW Dropped view CT_PRODUCTID_VW Rename CT_PRODUCTID_MVW to CT_PRODUC

Re: CLOB data

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
But the main point is valid. The phenomenon observed by Nancy is caused by the storage in the row. On 2003.10.16 19:59, Paul Drake wrote: how about using tablespaces UMDOTBS (instead of UNDOTBS) and SYTSEM? thanks for the laugh. Pd Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is because "ENABLE

Re: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Prem Khanna J
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Re: CBO with Foreign Key

2003-10-16 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
That's the problem with answering without thinking the answer completely through. My example below was only looking at the relationship from the child table side. If you look at it from the parent table side and add predicates - probably the more frequently used scenario - the problem becomes c

Re: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread Dave Hau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mladen Gogala wrote: I believe that this would be the best solution: DECLARE RowCount NUMBER:= 0; BEGIN /* This will work if the RESOURCE table has the "parallel" attribute set. In 8i, table needs to be partitioned as well */ EXECUTE IMMMEDIAT

RE: Analyze - For All option

2003-10-16 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
> -Original Message- > quriyat > > Can anyone enlighten me on the diff between > ANALYZE TABLE COMPUTE STATISTICS > --AND-- > analyze table my_emp compute statistics for table for all indexes > for all indexed columns; Time to dust off the old "check analyze options" SQL! These

Re: Analyze - For All option

2003-10-16 Thread Mark Richard
There is plenty of documentation on these commands which I suggest reading, but to summarise obscenely... These options can be used to analyze just certain elements whilst leaving other statistics unchanged. If you rebuilt the indexes on a table you might want to simply "analyze table blah for a

Re: re Rebuilding Indexes in Oracle Apps -- Quoting an Apps

2003-10-16 Thread M Rafiq
Hemant, It is absolutely true with Oracle Financials Databases and I have seen performance degradation when indexes on such databses are not rebuilt at a regular interval meaning indexes on certain tables on mothly basis. Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of

RE: db version control - schemas, code

2003-10-16 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: db version control - schemas, code I forgot to add to this message, I have requested permission to forward this presentation to others.   Matt   Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]We have enough youth.How about a fountain of intelligence?   -Original Message--

Re: OW Paris get-together, was : Re: where is Tanel ?

2003-10-16 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
I'll be in Paris. Have to receive my Oracle Magazine reward and admire La Defense - or vice versa. Mogens Stephane Faroult wrote: I have just received an e-mail from Tanel saying he had not had the time to participate recently and enquiring about any list get-together at Oracle World Paris. I w

Re: Effect on Oracle of changing server time from EST to GMT

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
Guiness Mean Time will not have effect on the time recorded in the database, just how it is displayed. On 10/16/2003 11:34:26 AM, David Wagoner wrote: To support internationalization, we may need to change our server time zone from US EST to GMT. What effect, if any, will this have on the O

RE: db version control - schemas, code

2003-10-16 Thread Yosi Greenfield
Title: RE: db version control - schemas, code It's on their website, and it does look excellent. Thanks for the tip.   Anyone ever use OEM Change Manager?   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)Sent

Re: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread Stephane Faroult
Mladen Gogala wrote: > > I believe that this would be the best solution: > DECLARE > RowCount NUMBER:= 0; > > BEGIN > /* This will work if the RESOURCE table has the "parallel" > attribute set. In 8i, table needs to be partitioned as well */ > > EXECUTE IMMMEDIA

Re: CBO with Foreign Key

2003-10-16 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Do you have concrete numbers. It''s been a while that I did my tests for the paper and I would have to dig out my old testcases, but I was left with the impression that the join cardinality "formula" was derived from parent-child relationship joins and that the cardinality estimates are OK for

Re: OW Paris get-together, was : Re: where is Tanel ?

2003-10-16 Thread M Rafiq
SF, Thanks for update. Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 15:04:25 -0800 I have just received an e-mail from Tanel saying he had not had the time to participate recently and enquiring about any list get-tog

Re: re Rebuilding Indexes in Oracle Apps -- Quoting an Apps

2003-10-16 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Richard, Quoting Metalink Note "182699.1"  on "    bde_rebuild.sql - Validates and     Rebuilds Fragmentated Indexes (8.0-9.0)" Index fragmentation occurs when a key value changes, and the index row is     deleted from one place (Leaf Block) and inserted into another.     Deleted Leaf R

Re: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Govindan K
Hi Dennis Congrats __ Keep the spirit flying GovindanK OCP-8,8i Brainbench Certified Master 8 DBA - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:24 PM > I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This w

Analyze - For All option

2003-10-16 Thread quriyat
Hi List Can anyone enlighten me on the diff between ANALYZE TABLE COMPUTE STATISTICS --AND-- analyze table my_emp compute statistics for table for all indexes for all indexed columns; TIA ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing M

RE: re Rebuilding Indexes in Oracle Apps -- was RE: RE: Separate

2003-10-16 Thread M Rafiq
You are right. As you agreed our ultimate goal is user satisfaction and I believe in that, may be a old habit. I came into computer area because of our dissatisfaction(being enduser) with our IT shop otherwise professionaly I used to be a qualified professional accountant playing with numbers.

Is RBO there in 10g?

2003-10-16 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
We had a question recently on the list about RBO still physically being there in 10g or not. I asked Graham Wood in Development, and here's his reply: == RBO is still there. De-supported means that if you find a bug, such as wrong results, in RBO it will not be fixed,

Re: Where can I download 10g ?

2003-10-16 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
At least I would then die with a broad smile on my face, knowing that that version was delayed, too... Pete Sharman wrote: Sure, I've got an accurate rumour. Of course, I'd have to kill you if I told you. Do you really want to know that much? :) Pete "Controlling developers is like herding ca

Re: Separate Indexes and Data

2003-10-16 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
A fine response, Richard. Thank you. One of the guys coding the index stuff was/is Jonathan Klein, and I remember asking him some years ago about reuse of index blocks, and he - at that point - said that he was pretty sure he put the reuse of leaf blocks into 7.1, but that branch blocks didn't

Re: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread Mark Richard
Jared's suggestion improves performance but does not implement batch commits. I think most people are trying to steer you away from batch commits - for a good reason. Often people say "you have to commit every 1000 records" - where I work that exists as a standard even. I've fought long and har

Re: CLOB data

2003-10-16 Thread Paul Drake
how about using tablespaces UMDOTBS (instead of UNDOTBS) and SYTSEM?   thanks for the laugh.   PdMladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is because "ENABLE STORAGE IN ROW" is the default, which meansthat oracle will store the first 4000 bytes in the original block.The first part of a LOB is,

RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still
I forgot to include years of troubleshooting and debugging experience the techniques to go with it. :) Jared "Bob Metelsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  10/16/2003 01:24 PM  Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[

RE: ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column

2003-10-16 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
That's funny. When I tried it on Oracle 9.0.1.1.0 on SunOS there was no error. When I tried it on Oracle 9.2.0.3.0 on SunOS the value assigned to po_out was an X followed by two (2) spaces. > -Original Message- > Post, Ethan > > Seeing this on AIX 5.1 64 bit Oracle 9.2.0.1.0 with char >

Re: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread AK
Congrates Dennis , Get set for 9i upgrade soon. 10g is on the way :) -ak - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:24 PM > I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This was my last exam, so I > suppos

Re: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still
Way to go Dennis! DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  10/16/2003 12:24 PM  Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        Passed Net8 OCP Exam I just p

RE: ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column

2003-10-16 Thread Bellow, Bambi
Embedded \0 on the assignment? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Seeing this on AIX 5.1 64 bit Oracle 9.2.0.1.0 with char datatypes. Anyone aware of this issue? CREATE TABLE CHAR_TEST ( CHAR1 CHAR(1) ) ---

Re: Linking DataGuard to Management Server

2003-10-16 Thread M Rafiq
On OTN check for HA or High Availability for all sort of white papers on dataguard. If you have metalink access then check for top tech doc option and then see for dataguard.. HTH, Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu

ORA-01401: inserted value too large for column

2003-10-16 Thread Post, Ethan
Seeing this on AIX 5.1 64 bit Oracle 9.2.0.1.0 with char datatypes. Anyone aware of this issue? CREATE TABLE CHAR_TEST ( CHAR1 CHAR(1) ) -- CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE TEST_CHAR ( po_

OW Paris get-together, was : Re: where is Tanel ?

2003-10-16 Thread Stephane Faroult
I have just received an e-mail from Tanel saying he had not had the time to participate recently and enquiring about any list get-together at Oracle World Paris. I won't attend OW myself but I'll happen to be in the very same area, invoicing happily, on Monday, Wednesday and Thursday till I leave t

RE: re Rebuilding Indexes in Oracle Apps -- was RE: RE: Separate

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still
Thanks for the info. Too bad you can't get some metrics to show what was happening. Yes, user satisfaction is the ultimate indicator of tuning success, but there are also metrics to back it up, they just need to be collected before and after. Thanks, Jared "M Rafiq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Effect on Oracle of changing server time from EST to GMT

2003-10-16 Thread Stephane Faroult
Well, some jobs (including snapshot refreshes) may get confused, and if you create or alter objects I wonder how Oracle may handle dependencies ... Fortunately you are moving 5 hours ahead, rather than back, so risks are probably quite limited. -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Pl

Re: Linking DataGuard to Management Server

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/html/A96673_01/toc.htm On 10/16/2003 06:39:32 PM, Michael Kline wrote: I'm at a new site right now and they have set up Standby environment on 9i Rel 2. The agent also is running on both the servers. They want to use the GUI frontend of DataGuard and have OEM

Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
So, what exactly is the difference between a grid and RAC/OPS? The associations that I get when somebody mentions the word "grid" are I-95 in Norwalk/Stamford area around 8:30 AM or LIE at the approximately the same time. That can be used to demonstrate gridlock computing. On 10/16/2003 06:29:33 P

Re: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still
My bad.  The SQL is not quite right:  'append' is a hint: alter table resource nologging; insert /*+ append */ into resource select * from rqmt; Read up on direct load insert in the concepts manual, along with nologging. Bypass the redo and undo - no need for commits. Just back it up when fin

v$Rollstat numbers

2003-10-16 Thread Ravi Kulkarni
We have a 8.1.7.0 with the following from v$rollstat. Extent size is 10M for all segments. Do you find anything unusual with usn#3? I expect Rssize for to be 17G (1777*10M - extents*extent_size). USNEXTENTS RSSIZE -- -- 0 11

Linking DataGuard to Management Server

2003-10-16 Thread Michael Kline
I'm at a new site right now and they have set up Standby environment on 9i Rel 2. The agent also is running on both the servers. They want to use the GUI frontend of DataGuard and have OEM installed, but have not taken the final steps of setting up the Management Server to tie it all toget

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
I think the assumption must be that all the computers on the grid are attached to a SAN. Does that seem reasonable? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For database ty

RE: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread Stephen Lee
log into target database. SQL> set long 32000 (or whatever if you have long datatype involved) SQL> set arraysize 100 SQL> set copycommit 1000 <-- LOOKY!! SQL> COPY FROM ${REMOTE_LOGIN}/[EMAIL PROTECTED] INSERT ${LOCAL_SCHEMA}.${THE_TABLE} USING ${QUERY}; In this case QUERY will probably be "s

Re: SGA & PGA

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, for which process do you want to see PGA? Go to the /proc/$PID directory and look into the memory maps. The other way of looking into PGA would be interpreting process tables from /dev/kmem. If you know how to do that, you can do something like dd if=/dev/mem of=`tty` On 10/16/2003 05:3

Re: SGA & PGA

2003-10-16 Thread Ravi Kulkarni
If your intention is to find the amount of memory used by an Oracle Process at the OS level, use pmap command in Solaris. -Ravi. --- Roger Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can use "ipcs -am" to see the sga at os level. but > I do not see any pga? > > Roger Xu > Database Administrator > Dr Peppe

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread Pete Sharman
Low end servers, usually running Linux, 1 or 2 CPU's, 2 Gb of memory, that can easily be racked (or even RAC'ed). Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Origi

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread Stephen Lee
For database type stuff, one must wonder how the data itself can be handled by CPU resources scattered hither and yon. The answer comes from the fairly recent knowledge that, in our universe, every particle has a matching particle; and changing one of the particles results in a change in the other

Re: CLOB data

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
This is because "ENABLE STORAGE IN ROW" is the default, which means that oracle will store the first 4000 bytes in the original block. The first part of a LOB is, essentially, identical to VARCHAR2(4000) or VARRAW(4000). If you say something like CREATE TABLE t ( ISCT_ID NUMBER(10)

Re: Solved: Find CPU clock speed on HP-UX 11

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
You are right. What I had in mind was to parse the information in a nice way, but I didn't have the time. On 10/16/2003 02:29:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm as much a Perl bigot as anyone Mladen, but really, what's the point of rewriting grep? grep -i HZ /var/log/syslog | head -1 Jared

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Thater, William
Mercadante, Thomas F scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: > w-ho! now go have a beer! i can only have a beer if i pass an OCP exam? Larry is getting WAYY to involved in my personal life!;-) -- Bill "Shrek" Thater ORACLE DBA "I'm going to work my ticket if I can..." -

RE: 8.1.7 to 8.1.7.4 database migration - step 10 hangs

2003-10-16 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Peter, First, are you sure it is hanging? It does take quite awhile to finish. Secondly, did you up the Jave_Shared_Pool param to a decent value (I think the migration doc says 4Meg, but increase it to 8 and try it again). and finally, if you are not using Java in the database, it really is not

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
The grid is presently at version 1.0, and like any 1.0 release is fraught with problems. One doesn't just install the grid, but installs several packages which have interdependencies to the extent that upgrading one will almost certainly cause failures somewhere else. I digress... A develope

SGA & PGA

2003-10-16 Thread Roger Xu
I can use "ipcs -am" to see the sga at os level. but I do not see any pga? Roger Xu Database Administrator Dr Pepper Bottling Company of Texas (972)721-8337 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Roger Xu INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Paula_Stankus
Congrats Dennis - I guess easy is always relative and depends on experience. I would venture that running Oracle with various applications on various platforms in various organizations provides a wealth of experience - some you wish you never have - all adding up to a pretty well-rounded backgr

Older IT Workers becoming a hot commodity

2003-10-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Hot dog! Maybe my time has finally come! http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/3092891 Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Servi

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
w-ho! now go have a beer! congrats! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This was my last exam, so I suppose I am now a

RE: Oracle 9204 on Sun Solaris stable?

2003-10-16 Thread Roger Xu
so far so good with 64-bit 9204 on Solaris9 -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, I installed Oracle 9201 on Sun Solaris9 and it has been giving me lots of trace files in udump directory. Checking with Metalink confirmed

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Michael Milligan
Congratulations!!! -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 1:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Congratulations Dennis! On 10/16/2003 03:24:26 PM, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: > I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This was my last > exam, > so I > suppose

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Igor Neyman
Congratulations, Dennis! Igor Neyman, OCP DBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This was my last exam, so I suppose I am now an OCP for

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Bob Metelsky
Congrats Dennis! I know we have be at that for some time now Way to go! bob Scott - My questions were distributed exactly as yours, maybe even the same questions, but it's all a blur now. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

CLOB data

2003-10-16 Thread Nancy Hu
I know Oracle provides us dbms_lob package to manipulate LOB data. However, I can use standard DML to manipulate CLOB data as following. Is there advantage to use dbms_lob package? SQL> CREATE TABLE t 2 ( 3ISCT_ID NUMBER(10), 4CONTENT CLOB 5 ); Table cre

Oracle 9204 on Sun Solaris stable?

2003-10-16 Thread Guang Mei
Hi, I installed Oracle 9201 on Sun Solaris9 and it has been giving me lots of trace files in udump directory. Checking with Metalink confirmed that it was due to a oracle bug. Metalink says the bug is fixed in 9203. Now I found the latest patchset is 9204 (out about one and half month ago). Has an

RE: How to add ' (comma) at the begining and end of each line? Either Unix or Windows

2003-10-16 Thread Bob Metelsky
A windows solution for /f %d in (C:\yourfile.txt) do echo ,%d,>>C:\yourfilewithcomma.txt bob Hi List I have 1000 lines in my data file. I want to add '(comma) at the begining and end of each line. For example, abf jd djkhk jd3 Shold be convrte

Re: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread MaryAnn Atkinson
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That will work, slowly. > You might like to try something like this > insert into resource > nologging > select * from rqmt > append; How's that commiting every 1000 records? > Read up on the 'append' and 'nologging' first. ??? > > > > > > > > Maryann

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Scott - My questions were distributed exactly as yours, maybe even the same questions, but it's all a blur now. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list OR

Re: 8.1.7 to 8.1.7.4 database migration - step 10 hangs

2003-10-16 Thread Michael Boligan
It may take a while to run (1/2 hour), how long has it been running? There are some issues with reloading java on an upgrade. I just went through the same thing, but on AIX 4.3.3. I don't have the metalink note in front of me, I will be able to pass it on tomrrow. Some things from memory ar

Re: Solved: Find CPU clock speed on HP-UX 11

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
I don't know whether HP-UX has /proc/cpuinfo, but that is the place where the information about CPU is recorded. On 10/16/2003 02:29:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm as much a Perl bigot as anyone Mladen, but really, what's the point of rewriting grep? grep -i HZ /var/log/syslog | head -1 Jared

RE: 8.1.7 to 8.1.7.4 database migration - step 10 hangs

2003-10-16 Thread Odland, Brad
SQLPlus probably doesn't hangit take a long time to create or replace JAVA on some systems. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Environment: AIX 5.2 Oracle 8.1.7.4 I copied a database from an 8.1.7.0 environment and

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Odland, Brad
Congratulations... Make sure you put TNS_SKILL_LEVEL=((CERT=$OCP)(PROTOCOL=$ORA_ED)(RENEW=$ANNUAL)) in your sqlnet.ora file -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This was m

RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread Bob Metelsky
TORA, OraC, sqlplus, vi, perl and a linux box to run it on, though the database servers are mostly Win2k. Software $0.00 OS $0.0 HW $12k   A procedure return with no errors     Priceless FWIW for a nice sql editor golden is nice. Others on this list sold me on that  

CBO with Foreign Key

2003-10-16 Thread Henry Poras
Is there any way to get the CBO (8.1.7) to recognize parent/child relationships? This seems to be an extreme example of the Join Independence Assumption Fallacy (or I guess maybe the Predicate Independence Assumption) discussed by Wolfgang Breitling in "Fallacies of the Cost Based Optimizer". If I

8.1.7 to 8.1.7.4 database migration - step 10 hangs

2003-10-16 Thread Schauss, Peter
Environment: AIX 5.2 Oracle 8.1.7.4 I copied a database from an 8.1.7.0 environment and am going through the procedure to migrate it to 8.1.7.4. My Oracle home has already been patched. When I get to step 10 in the procedure where it says: SQL> create or replace java system / sqlplus hangs.

RE: Removing duplicate rows from a table !

2003-10-16 Thread Govind.Arumugam
Assuming that we have duplicate rows ( NOT duplicate keys ), you may try this. I have borrowed this from a friend of mine. We have used it successfully. Each of the columns in the table are included as predicates to confirm that we are deleting only the duplicate rows. delete from noderelatedr

Re: Removing duplicate rows from a table !

2003-10-16 Thread Todd Boss
We just discussed this about a month ago. 3 basic solutions: 1. delete from table where rowid not in (select max(rowid) from table group by col_1,col_2,etc); sql only solution, not really feasible in huge environments 2. Alter table mytab enable constraint PK exceptions into exceptions; Better

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDD
Title: RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam WooHoo!  Congrats Dennis!  So were the questions distributed the same as when I took it, or did they emphasize different areas?  Just curious. -Scott Stefick -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October

RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread Johnston, Tim
Title: Message FYI...  Golden is a query tool (and a damn good one)...  In my opinion, it's what SQL Worksheet should be...  Simple to use and fast...  The PL/SQL editor from Benthic is separate tool called PLEdit...  It's ok but not great...  Like Golden it is quick and simple...  But, if y

Re: OT California

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
Thanks, Melanie! I was already getting frustrated that nobody got the joke. Though I am slowly melting into a Connecticut Yankee (I even started cheering for the Yankees), my English is still such that people usually think that it's just a bad spelling. On 10/16/2003 02:44:25 PM, Melanie Caffr

Removing duplicate rows from a table !

2003-10-16 Thread Rama, Shreekantha (K.)
Hi, I am trying to remove the duplicate rows from a table with the column data.. I cannot use PK as it's just a sequence number... I could find all the duplicate rows by grouping the column. but how can i delete only the duplicate ones and retain the original dat

RE: OT California

2003-10-16 Thread Freeman Robert - IL
Of course, you all do realize that Arnold can't be president... right? I've actually heard the talking heads talking about it like it's possible LOL Ignoramouses! RF -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 10/16/2003 1:29 PM Check your Latin...that's "Gub

Re: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
Congratulations Dennis! On 10/16/2003 03:24:26 PM, DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote: I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This was my last exam, so I suppose I am now an OCP for Oracle8i. Thanks to everyone for their helpful tips. Some people said (or implied) that this is a very easy exam. I

RE: Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread Johnston, Tim
Congrats! Now... What will you do with your sig line -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This was my last exam, so I suppose I am now an OCP for Oracle8i. Thanks to e

RE: Opinions sought on possible TOAD replacement

2003-10-16 Thread babette.turnerunderwood
Title: Message We do something similar here. Developers gets Golden (from Benthic). Which has a nice little PL/SQL Editor and SQL spreadsheet. DBAs get TOAD. Babette Turner-Underwood work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 954-3752 (Mon - Fri 7am - 3pm) -Original Message

Passed Net8 OCP Exam

2003-10-16 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
I just passed the Net8 Administration OCP exam. This was my last exam, so I suppose I am now an OCP for Oracle8i. Thanks to everyone for their helpful tips. Some people said (or implied) that this is a very easy exam. I would dispute that. I found it just like the other exams, in that if you hav

RE: OT California

2003-10-16 Thread Melanie Caffrey
I know this should really be on the OT list, but, I couldn't help laughing at the below. And all along, I thought Mladen's original comment was actually just a clever amalgamation of "governor" and "terminator". Whatever the original intent, it's still funny. :-) -Original Message- [EMA

Re: db version control - schemas, code

2003-10-16 Thread AK
There is a toll "schema manager " by quest . Have a look at that as well. I haven't used it though. -ak - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:24 AM > Hi All, > > Client would like me to propose a solutio

RE: db version control - schemas, code

2003-10-16 Thread Adams, Matthew (GECP, MABG, 088130)
Title: RE: db version control - schemas, code there was an excellent presentation by Mark Stock at SEOUC 2002 called Tag! Whose Code is it? about embedding versioning inside of Oracle objects. I'm reluctant to send it without getting approval from the copyright holder, but the authors e

Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread Kirtikumar Deshpande
Current issue of ComputerWorld has an article on Grid, but I enjoyed the fantastic cartoon :) - Kirti --- Jared Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a recently curmudgeonly reply to a friend that > asked the same question. > > - > > As for 10g itself: the 'g' stan

RE: Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread Branimir Petrovic
> ... As load increases, Oracle > will spawn off work onto the other free servers somehow. > Looks like Oracle is finally "catching up" with what we've been enjoying on Windoze, for quite a number of years now. Only for some strange reason this very principle used to be called "worm propagati

Re: OT California

2003-10-16 Thread Kip . Bryant
Check your Latin...that's "Gubernator"... |How, in the world, did a man with such a poor taste in movies |build such a huge company like Oracle Corp? No wonder that Arnie |has become a guvernator of CA. BTW, has anyone here seen the |"Demolition Man"? It's not an Arnie movie, but the scene with th

RE: Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still
We had Sun's N1 architect here a few months ago to brief us on N1. ( grid) In a nutshell, all of your servers go in a pool, the administrative software doles out the resources as needed, simple as that. Of course, it is not that simple.  Very interesting stuff, though I think the current buzz ab

Re: Solved: Find CPU clock speed on HP-UX 11

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still
I'm as much a Perl bigot as anyone Mladen, but really, what's the point of rewriting grep? grep -i HZ /var/log/syslog | head -1 Jared Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  10/16/2003 07:59 AM  Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipie

RE: SUPPRESS SQL STATEMENTS

2003-10-16 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
I usually do   echo passwd | sqlplus -s [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion

Re: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still
That will work, slowly. You might like to try something like this insert into resource nologging select * from rqmt append; Read up on the 'append' and 'nologging' first. Jared Maryann Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  10/16/2003 08:54 AM  Please respond to ORAC

Re: OT California

2003-10-16 Thread Jared . Still
OT list please Mladen Gogala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  10/16/2003 10:34 AM  Please respond to ORACLE-L                 To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>         cc:                 Subject:        Re: OT California How, in the worl

Homework

2003-10-16 Thread bulbultyagi
List, anyone finished the exercises in cary's book ? or at least chapter 5 ? . I tried www.oreilly.com/catalog/optoraclep. Hey maybe I can get you guys to write my term paper too :) Professor Milsap is a real stickler for assignments and will probably flunk me for copying. But seriously, Cary sa

Re: db version control - schemas, code

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
There is a company called Merant (www.merant.com) which is a maker of change management tool called PVCS. They have module for Oracle, which can compare schemas as well as store fmb files. As fo the methodology, company documentation is marked with "company confidential", which means that I'm not a

RE: Re: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I think it's more than that. I've got a meeting with the Oracle folks tomorrow for an overview of other stuff, but he did mention that grid computing is not like Oracle Failover. It's more like you have a group of servers at your disposal. Oracle has *not* been installed on these machines. Yo

RE: anyone have opinions on the future of the 'grid'?

2003-10-16 Thread Pete Sharman
Ain't necessarily so. We already have some customers using grid technology with 9iR2 and 9iAS, along with the toolkit that's available on OTN (whose name escapes me at the moment). These are very high end business clients (not government or academia) that the Advanced Technology Solutions group i

RE: SUPPRESS SQL STATEMENTS

2003-10-16 Thread Johan Muller
I run the following script, and the -S option solved the problem I had (I even had the line # out in the script and re-invoked it).   If the username/pw is on a separate line as shown below, the ps command does not display the userid/pw info.   # Set environment variables#!/bin/ksh # Set local env

Re: OT California

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
How, in the world, did a man with such a poor taste in movies build such a huge company like Oracle Corp? No wonder that Arnie has become a guvernator of CA. BTW, has anyone here seen the "Demolition Man"? It's not an Arnie movie, but the scene with the "Schwartzenegger presidential library" go

Re: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
I believe that this would be the best solution: DECLARE RowCount NUMBER:= 0; BEGIN /* This will work if the RESOURCE table has the "parallel" attribute set. In 8i, table needs to be partitioned as well */ EXECUTE IMMMEDIATE 'ALTER SESSION ENABLE PARALLEL DML'; SELE

Re: insert and commit 1000 records at a time

2003-10-16 Thread rgaffuri
yeah dont commit every 1000 records and do it in one shot. this is going to be much slower. why do you want to do it this way? Ive done 100m inserts with just an insert select and one commit. > > From: Maryann Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/10/16 Thu AM 11:54:33 EDT > To: Multiple

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