Re: [PD-dev] pdmtl abstractions in trunk/abstractions

2008-03-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 10:14 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, patrick wrote: > > > would it be possible to implement a repository mirroring in > > trunk/abstractions/pdmtl for pdmtl abstractions: > > At the bottom of http://subversion.tigris.org/ : > > Btw, are you 100% sure t

[PD-dev] path issues (was: Re: [import] doesn't seem to add pathes)

2008-03-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
that this message will contain a full copy of the comment thread, > including the initial issue submission, for this request, > not just the latest update. > Category: pd-extended > Group: None > >Status: Closed > >Resolution: Invalid > Priority: 5 > Private: N

Re: [PD-dev] path issues (was: Re: [import] doesn't seem to add pathes)

2008-03-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
2008-03-18 at 11:59 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > yo.. actually my bug report was bogus, because it was not related to > [import], but to how pd works on linux. it seems, that this bug was > closed in the tracker, but some 'unpleasant aftertaste' remains. > > why are al

Re: [PD-dev] new distro: pd-vanilla+libs

2008-04-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 19:19 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > Ultimately, that sounds like a good goal, but it would also be a lot > > more work, and would cuase more bugs. There are incompatibilities > > between

Re: [PD-dev] hardy upgrade

2008-04-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
cool! i will be lucky to test the builds as soon hardy is released and i will be finished with school (in mid of june). roman On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 16:07 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I am upgrading the ubuntu dapper LTS box to the new Hardy LTS right > now. Let's hope everything goe

Re: [PD-dev] changing [declare -stdpath] behavior

2008-05-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
i am very much in favor of that change and i _don't_ care about any backwards compatibility issues, since [declare] has been proven to be very unreliable anyway. better to change it early, before usage of it is widely spread. personally i think, that your suggestion is the layout, that makes most

Re: [PD-dev] changing [declare -stdpath] behavior

2008-05-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
or this? roman On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 01:22 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > i am very much in favor of that change and i _don't_ care about any > backwards compatibility issues, since [declare] has been proven to be > very unreliable anyway. better to change it early, before u

[PD-dev] compiling iemlibs on ubuntu hardy

2008-06-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i finally switched over from dapper to hardy and compiled all the iemlibs fine (using the original makefiles), but they couldn't be loaded: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/iemlib1.pd_linux: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local iemlib1: can't load library i got the same error for iemli

Re: [PD-dev] please remove old pdlua from SVN

2008-06-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
why don't you request dev-access to the pd-svn repository? without your last post, i wouldn't have noticed, that i am using a very outdated version. from a users point of view, i would like to be able to check out as much as possible from the same repository. i think, that is also the main goal of

[PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-06-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all why is [range], that was initially part of maxlib, moved to /externals/deprecated ? who decides, what is deprecated and what not? roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de

Re: [PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-06-24 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 12:08 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > [range] was never part of maxlib. It was a silly kludge I think in > like 2002. I created it, so I decided to deprecate it. from /externals/deprecated/range.c: /* - range

Re: [PD-dev] please remove old pdlua from SVN

2008-06-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 15:20 +0200, Steffen Juul wrote: > On Mon, June 23, 2008 2:31 pm, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > i would like to be able to > > check out as much as possible from the same repository. i think, that is > > also the main goal of pd-svn, isn't it? > &g

Re: [PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-07-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:24 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > anyway, it seems that it has been years ago, so nevermind. i was > > confused when trying to help someone with a patch, that uses [range], > > which i found in /dep

Re: [PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-07-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:05 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > sorry for late reply. i couldn't figure out, what [range] from gridflow > > does, so it makes you difficult to have an opinion about this. the fact, > > that

Re: [PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-07-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 21:05 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > ÿÿthe solution would be to give it a name, that clearly relates to > > gridflow. [gf.range] or whatsoever (similar to grid processing > > classnames starting

Re: [PD-dev] abstractions

2008-07-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 23:36 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Originally [range] was only there so that when I convert jMax patches > > to Pd patches, I wouldn't have to do elaborate search-and-replaces. > > Although later on I could have decided to let it go and do things the > > Pd way, inst

Re: [PD-dev] abstractions

2008-07-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 18:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> btw such "range" is very feasible with only pd language > > > > dollarg > > ... couldn't create > > > it's from iemlib2. > > my opinion is that such externals are so vital t

[PD-dev] how to compile pdstring from moocow?

2008-08-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i followed the README.cvs file included and when doing 'make' i get: Making all in config make[1]: Entering directory `/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/moocow/pdstring/config' make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/moocow/pdstring/config

[PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i have [tcpserver] from mrpeach installed in: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/mrpeach/tcpserver.pd_linux and i have a patch with: [declare -stdpath extra/mrpeach] [tcpserver] however, [tcpserver] doesn't instantiate. as verbose output i get: tried /home/roman/extra/mrpeach/tcpserver.l_i386 a

Re: [PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 18:47 -0400, marius schebella wrote: > hi roman, > > thanks for bringing this one up :). just tested it on OSX and here is > what I got: it has some effect, but not as supposed. It extends the path > relative to the directory of the pdpatch (and not as stated in the help >

Re: [PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 17:42 -0500, Mike McGonagle wrote: > Hi Roman, > > Not sure if this is the problem, but I had similar troubles like this, > and to solve the issue, I saved the patch that contains the [declare] > in it, and then reopened it. I guess the issue here is that declare > really on

Re: [PD-dev] how to compile pdstring from moocow?

2008-08-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 18:52 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > hi all > > > > i followed the README.cvs file included and when doing 'make' i get: > > > > Making all in config > > make[1]: Entering directory > > `/home/ro

[PD-dev] future of [declare]

2008-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i made some tests with the new [declare] in 0.42.0test5. here the results: -lib and -stdlib: those expand the global namespace. when having [declare -stdlib extra/zexy] somewhere, all zexy classes are available for any patches. -path and -stdpath: they expand the namespace of the parent p

Re: [PD-dev] future of [declare]

2008-11-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 17:55 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: > Actually, I think it would be a bad idea to have an abstraction affect the > search path of the containing patch. There would be no way for the patch to > know about the stuff getting added to the path until the abstraction gets > loaded.

Re: [PD-dev] pd watchdog in debian lenny on macbook

2008-11-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 23:29 +0100, Luigi wrote: > Hi > > i am trying to build pd on debian on a macbook (DualBoot) > > I tried to use puredyne and realized that pd does not start at all.. > > it just hangs with watchdog/signalling > > > I then build puredata from source (debian way) and the sa

Re: [PD-dev] future of [declare]

2008-11-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 12:22 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: > Followup: it looks like currently, "declaring" a path inside an > abstraction adds the declaration, buggily, to the whole line of parent > patches. one result of this is that, if you have a bunch of copies of > an abstraction "declaring"

[PD-dev] [tcpsocketserver] - a protocol-aware wrapper around [tcpserver]

2009-01-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all, hi martin as pointed out in a previous thread, it's tricky to use [tcp*] object classes for transporting packet oriented protocols, such as OSC or FUDI. when dealing with [tcpserver], the situation gets even more tricky. when several clients are connected to a [tcpserver] and they all send

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpsocketserver] - a protocol-aware wrapper around [tcpserver]

2009-01-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 15:26 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > This looks very cool, we need an easy to use OSC replacement for > dumpOSC/sendOSC. One thing, I get this when I load them: i am afraid, that they do not make it easier for the user to use mrpeach/osc. at the least the goal was

[PD-dev] [declare] bug (id 2251387)

2009-02-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi everyone i once posted a bug to the tracker and it still appears to be there in version 0.42.3. since this bug is kind of viral, so that it corrupts patches invisibly and without being noticed by the author, and also since quite some of my own patches got affected by that bug, i would like to

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 23:52 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Hey, > > Right now, Pd-extended is loading a lot of libraries by default. Most > people never used most of those libraries, so I think it makes sense > to reduce that number to move towards the goal of having the library > l

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 22:58 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: > > > At least we know it was an intentional difference: > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-04/061603.html > > > > For extended would it be possible to exclud

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 07:30 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: > > > > Getting rid of cyclone's pow~ would break all of the patches that rely > > > on cyclone's pow~, and would also make it harder to import Max/MSP > > > patches. Removing it is

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 07:12 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > > >How does minimizing the number of "loaded libraries" affect the goal > > >of storing preferenc

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 07:30 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: > > > > Getting rid of cyclone's pow~ would break all of the patches that rely > > > on cyclone's pow~, and would also make it harder to import Max/MSP > > > patches. Removing it is

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 07:26 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > from what i have understood, it is not cyclone's ability to replace > > built-ins, but it is a so called new feature of pd 0.42. the same > >

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 00:36 -0500, Matt Barber wrote: > > Getting rid of cyclone's pow~ would break all of the patches that rely > > on cyclone's pow~, and would also make it harder to import Max/MSP > > patches. Removing it is not a solution. > > > Okay. But I don't see why something that is a

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 09:38 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 07:26 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > how can someone assume so? > no, that is so not true. i didn't even know, >

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 10:47 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Hallo, > > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > >> On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 07:26 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > >> how can someone assume so? > n

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 11:24 +0100, marius schebella wrote: > hey hans, > > if it's called "extended" and you strip it down to the bare bones, > then where's the extended part? i think, noone wanted to strip down anything. this is only about not loading the whole bunch of libs automatically anymor

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:20 +0100, Steffen Juul wrote: > On 17/02/2009, at 21.06, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > Hallo, > > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > >> correct me, if this is wrong, but i understand, that overriding > >&g

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:21 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Martin Peach wrote: > > > > Well isn't it just easier to use something with a different name? If you > > have a backwards [pow] why not just call it [backwardspow] instead of > > letting users guess which [pow] is the right one? >

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 20:19 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > cyrille henry wrote: > > > > IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : > > .. > >> they could, but it was an effort to do so. > >> any "ordinary" external would not be able to do it. > >> the only library that i am aware of that did override inte

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 19:28 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> > >> this is both with (an imagined) Pd-extended 0.42 > > > > Would this be any different with a Pd-vanilla+libs 0.42? I don't > > think there is anything particular to the Pd version in Pd-extend

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 23:30 +0100, marius schebella wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 11:24 +0100, marius schebella wrote: > >> hey hans, > >> > >> if it's called "extended" and you strip it down to the bare bones, > >

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 09:46 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > i think, that the question, why a new object [pack] is named pack is not > > rhetoric at all and isn't answered yet. so lets go again: why is [pack] > > from zexy called [pack]? >

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 12:59 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Here's how I think this all should work: > > - classes of any implementation language are treated the same > (i.e. .pd_linux, .pd, .pdlua, etc). > - single library format for all implementation methods > - possibilit

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 10:00 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > i think, that the question, why a new object [pack] is named pack is not > > rhetoric at all and isn't answered yet. so lets go again: why is [pack] > > from zexy ca

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 09:36 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > This just doesn't sound workable to me. Then you can never rely on an > > externals or even abstractions, since they might be an incompatible > > inte

[PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi martin i reckon, that you're working on tcpserver code these days, at least when ever i update mrpeach from svn, the tcpserver.c file is updated. so please tell me, if it makes sense at all to currently report bugs. after having set the buffersize using the 'clientbuf' messages, message to the

[PD-dev] moocow: svn and compilation issues

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all, hi bryan i tried to compile pdstring from moocow from a fresh svn checkout and encountered some issues. - moocow/autoreconf.sh when invoked from shell, it gives the error: ../autoreconf.sh: 3: Syntax error: "(" unexpected i guess, that is because it is using the wrong shebang. it runs

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 20:33 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: > Well I'm trying to get rid of the bugs in it... > I don't get that on WinXP though (Pd 0.41.4-extended). I set the > buffer to 12 and still received 30 bytes. > On Debian with Pd 0.41.4-extended I get two separate messages (each

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 21:26 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: > Spoke too soon. On Debian setting the buffer to any size always > returns me 2048, so that's no good. > On WinXP some values (1,2) do what you said. Others (10,12) don't. I'm > not sure what to do about that. It seems to be the O

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 21:26 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: > Spoke too soon. On Debian setting the buffer to any size always > returns me 2048, so that's no good. > On WinXP some values (1,2) do what you said. Others (10,12) don't. I'm > not sure what to do about that. It seems to be the

Re: [PD-dev] moocow: svn and compilation issues

2009-04-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 21:28 +0200, Bryan Jurish wrote: > moin Roman, > > On 2009-04-06 20:55:10, Roman Haefeli appears to > have written: > > hi all, hi bryan > > > > i tried to compile pdstring from moocow from a fresh svn checkout and > > encount

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 18:49 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 21:26 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: > >> Spoke too soon. On Debian setting the buffer to any size always > >> returns me 2048, so that's no good. &g

[PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-04-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi martin, hi all i ve been testing the new netpd-server based on the new [tcpserver]/[tcsocketserver FUDI] now for a while and definitely could solve some problems, but some new ones were introduced. i found, that the most recent version of [tcpserver] peforms quite bad cpu-wise. this has some

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-04-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
rt both, let the client connect to the server and then let the server send messages to the client. pull the ethernet plug and you'll trigger the problem pretty quickly. on my linux box, the server patch hangs pd exactly 242 after messages. roman > On Apr 26, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Roman Haefeli

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-05-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 10:17 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > i ve been testing the new netpd-server based on the new > > [tcpserver]/[tcsocketserver FUDI] now for a while and definitely could > > solve some problems, but some new ones were introduced. &

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-05-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 09:16 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 10:17 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > >> Roman Haefeli wrote: > >>> i ve been testing the new netpd-server based on the new > >>> [tcpserver]/[tcsockets

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-05-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 18:48 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 09:16 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > >> Roman Haefeli wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 10:17 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > >>>> Roman Haefeli wrote: &

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-05-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 19:41 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 18:48 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > >> Roman Haefeli wrote: > >>> On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 09:16 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: > >>>> Roman Haefeli wro

Re: [PD-dev] svn access

2009-05-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:29 +0200, august wrote: > > well, I was just trying to follower the developer wiki here: > > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/sf_project hm... it seems, that there are actually two pages about the same thing. the more up-to-date one is: http://puredata.info/dev/cvs

Re: [PD-dev] "modular" compositions of object classes

2009-09-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 21:01 +0200, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: > hi all, > > is it possible -in the context of writing a pd external class- to > invisibly patch some other object and attach to it/bind it? > > I'll try to explain better with an example: > if I were writing an external that is some

[PD-dev] [mrpeach/tcpserver]: full socket send buffer blocks pd

2009-12-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Martin I wasn't sure, if I should report that as a bug. The new version of [tcpserver] seems to work fine, BUT now it suffers again from the initial problem, that maxlib's [netserver] is still suffering from: If the send buffer of a certain socket is full, [tcpserver] is blocked and thus bloc

Re: [PD-dev] [mrpeach/tcpserver]: full socket send buffer blocks pd

2009-12-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Martin On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 14:09 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: > Hi Roman, sorry for the late reply. Complex matters require time. > > > I wasn't sure, if I should report that as a bug. The new version of > > [tcpserver] seems to work fine, BUT now it suffers again from the > > initial problem

Re: [PD-dev] setting the bug/patch tracker to login-only

2010-01-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 14:41 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Hey all, > > I am thinking that we should set our bug and patch trackers so that > you have login in order to post. While I do want to get as many bug > reports as possible, from what I have seen, the anonymous reports > alm

Re: [PD-dev] pd file format: color settings

2010-02-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
I assume, this is because a 24bit integer cannot be saved with full precision with Pd, since Pd seems to strip off some bits when saving a floating point value (or when printing or displaying it). If the color would be encoded as RGB 8bpp, it would look different after saving and restoring it. So a

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-2950978 ] iemlib/[soundfile_info]: does not load certain wav files

2010-03-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi I would like to know, how likely it is that this bug is going to be fixed in the next couple of weeks. Please do *not* understand this as a request and certainly not as a demand to fix it. Having this piece of information helps to define a strategy of what audio software can be used in an upco

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-2950978 ] iemlib/[soundfile_info]: does not load certain wav files

2010-03-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
Thanks for your response! On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 09:03 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2010-03-15 00:35, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > Hi > > > > I would like to know, how likely it is that this bug is going to be > > fixed in the next couple of weeks. Please do

Re: [PD-dev] path for embedded examples

2010-04-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 13:25 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Part of the idea of a libdir is to also include examples. Currently, > this is done using an 'examples' subfolder. The problem with that is > the example patches won't automatically find the objects from the > libdir that th

Re: [PD-dev] path for embedded examples

2010-04-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 09:33 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:01:22PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 13:25 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > Part of the idea of a libdir is to also include examples. Currently, > >

Re: [PD-dev] path for embedded examples

2010-04-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 11:32 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 09:33 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:01:22PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >>> On Sat

Re: [PD-dev] path for embedded examples

2010-04-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 15:51 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > That demonstrates one reason why I avoid > [declare] and made [import]. I can never remember what [declare]'s > options mean. :-) You made [import] before miller made [declare]. That might rather be the reason for you to pre

Re: [PD-dev] hex characters in library names

2010-04-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
Could it possibly be that iemmatrix is not [hexloader]-ready yet? >From the hexloader README: «CAVEAT: C also forbids to start function names with numeric values. therefore, this is a nono: [>]'s setupfunction would be "0x3e_setup()" (ILLEGAL) we can simply fix this by putting the "setup()" in f

Re: [PD-dev] mrpeach/tcpserver one last lingering bug

2010-05-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all Sorry to barge in without myself being involved in the matters, but I remember, that also IOhannes was working on addressing some issues of [tcpserver]. His results are in svn/externals/iem/iemnet. I haven't thoroughly tested, if those versions already solved the issues Ivica was posting. H

Re: [PD-dev] Pd timing on Android

2010-05-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 11:15 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > if it even misbehaves with -nosound most likely the OS isn't waking > Pd up reliably. A test would be to try the "realtime" object to see if > Pd is getting the time correctly from Android -- relevant for the -nosound > case. If so I can

[PD-dev] externals deb packaging questions

2010-05-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all Some questions arose about how to correctly debianize externals. Is it correct, that since both 'puredata' and 'pd-extended' provide 'pd', an external binary package should depend on 'pd'? What happens, if you install 'pd-foo' and neither of the Pd flavours is installed, which one would be

[PD-dev] external directory layout (was: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?)

2010-05-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
I moved this to pd-dev. On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 16:23 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 09:41 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > > >> anyhow: now that pd-extended installs everything into > >> /usr/lib/pd-ext

[PD-dev] deb again: whats the standard for externals to depend on?

2010-06-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all I just noticed, that there seems to be a little - call it - inconsistency in the two pd-externals packages shipping with debian: 'pd-zexy' depends on 'puredata' 'gem' depends on 'pd' Is there a particular reason for 'pd-zexy' to depend on 'puredata' and not 'pd', or is it simply a tiny m

Re: [PD-dev] hex characters in library names

2010-06-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 10:12 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2010-04-14 00:19, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > If it is only a matter of someone doing the boring uninspiring > > uninteresting painful work of renaming those functions, I _might_ be > > able to help, if the

[PD-dev] asking for svn commit access

2010-08-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all My name is Roman Haefeli and I have been an active pd-list member for a few years. Since I would like to help in trying to get libraries as packages into debian, I ask for svn commit access. Some of my contributions - mostly in form of abstractions and help-files - can be found in

Re: [PD-dev] asking for svn commit access

2010-08-31 Thread Roman Haefeli
someone else. That is why I had to take 'reduzent'. Can you change it accordingly? Sorry for not having provided it in the first place. Roman > On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 11:53 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > Hi all > > > > My name is Roman Haefeli and I have been an a

Re: [PD-dev] asking for svn commit access

2010-08-31 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 13:23 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 12:44 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 02:00 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > I guess we were super slack, you should have nagged more :). > > >

[PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all As you might know, a lot of the Pd libraries are being packaged for Debian. Some of them have already been uploaded and can be installed from unstable. I'd like to include also the iemmatrix library. In Pd-extended, it is bundled as a one-file-per-object library, which allows to instantiat

Re: [PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 09:17 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2010-11-10 22:06, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > > In the case of iemmatrix (and also zexy, which actually already is > > packaged as a multi-object-single-file library in Debian, but as a > > one

Re: [PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 10:49 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > anyhow, until pd-hexloader is packaged, this discussion is quite moot > anyhow. I could take care of packaging hexloader, but I feel you think there are other issues than with packaging. What are those? Is it still defunct? Since I f

Re: [PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 14:52 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I'm fine with whatever you want to do with iemmatrix. I haven't used > it, so I don't really have much input on it. So I feel there is consensus about packaging iemmatrix (only) as a multi-object library. > As for other librar

Re: [PD-dev] Adding a Timestamp

2010-11-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
There is the [date] and [time] from zexy. Roman On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 20:45 -0500, sisil mehta wrote: > Hi, > Can we add a timestamp to the data that i log from say, recording and > prcessing sound? How to do this??? > > -- > Regards, > Sisil Mehta > PhD prog...@georgia Tech > > > >

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-11-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 13:38 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: > On 2010-11-28 12:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > Hey Martin and all, > > > > Just had a thought: originally everything in the 'mrpeach' folder was > > bundled into a single library, which I think Martin didn't really > > intend. I d

[PD-dev] Where to report issues with 0.43 development branch?

2010-11-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi If people are supposed to already report bugs with the current dev (0.43) branch, where should they do so? Is this the correct place to get most recent sources from: git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data Thanks Roman __

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-12-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 16:17 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: > On 2010-11-28 15:57, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 13:38 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: > >> On 2010-11-28 12:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >>> > >>> Hey Martin and all,

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-12-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 21:02 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 16:17 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: > > On 2010-11-28 15:57, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 13:38 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: > > >> On 2010-11-28 12:13

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-12-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
erratum: On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 01:20 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: > The high CPU load comes from the [tcpserver] object, but > from the fact that FUDI delimiting is done in the byte realm with Pd > objects. should read: "The high CPU load comes _not_ from the [tcpserve

Re: [PD-dev] removing non-free code from pure-data SVN

2010-12-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 10:08 +0100, Sergi Lario wrote: > we hurry? > > I think remove is not a solution although, if I'm not wrong, it seems > will happen in the near future like all the others external libraries. What makes you think that? Are you confusing the Pure Data svn repository and Pd-ex

[PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Martin, IOhannes et al. Martin, you asked me when I last tested mrpeach's [tcpserver] when I was mentioning the blocking issue. I did another test today with two computers connected over Ethernet. When plugging out the chord, I can simulate a client disappearing without the server noticing and

Re: [PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:54 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:12 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > On 12/09/2010 10:28 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > >> > >> @ IOhannes > >> Though I like this 'stable'/reliable behaviour of i

Re: [PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 11:43 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Dec 13, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:54 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:12 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > >>> On 1

Re: [PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 14:42 -0500, Martin wrote: > On 13/12/10 10:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:54 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:12 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > >>> On 12/09/2010 10:28 PM, Roman Ha

[PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi It seems that since Pd 0.43 a Pd file does not save the window manager window position and size anymore (at least on linux), but instead the position and the size of the canvas, i.e. the white patching area. This has some implications. Since window decorations (title bar, window borders) have

[PD-dev] Some OSC suggestions

2011-01-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Martin I've been working with the mrpeach/osc objectclasses lately and had some ideas that possibly would help to improve the usability of those (not to mention that they are already very useful now!). * Settable [routeOSC] - Since Pd version 0.43 the [route] objectclass a

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